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Offline john11

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2016, 03:01:31 AM »
Hi. Another issue.

Installed tiny core to a 7gb sd card, (fat32, 32kb clusters) and it worked fine

Just tried installing  tiny core on a 15gb usb flash drive, ( fat32 , 4kb clusters ) and it won't boot.

Is there any reason for this, are there any flash drives tiny core does not like.
 I have tried formatting the flash drive to 32kb clusters with easeus partition manager but it won't do it, keeps formatting the drive as 4kb clusters.

Many thanks. John.

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2016, 03:30:37 AM »
Hell John11

I think you'll find it's better to keep one issue per thread.

so did you get alsa to perform as desired with persistent mixer settings?

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2016, 04:46:26 AM »
John,

regarding formatting a USB thumb drive, I'd recommend using gparted which is flash drive friendly.

If you're ever going to plug this USB drive into a Windows box, consider creating the first partition with FAT or FAT32 formatting (depending on size).   Consider making this first partition  large enough to use as storage for shared files. 

Create the first partition with a 1MB offset from the beginning of the drive, this is easy to accomplish with gparted (it's a simple check box) but other tools may facilitate this requirement.  This is known as "Alignment" and is the single most important aspect of partitioning and formatting drives, including HDD's and all Flash storage.

If you're serious about installing tc to a thumb drive then create a second partition and format it with a linux file system like ext2 and install Tinycore to it.

Changing the Allocation Unit Size to anything larger than default 4kb is usually more wasteful of space than any performance gains, especially for small slow USB thumb drives.   AUS (default size of 4Kb) is generally limited by file system.

The term "Clusters and Sectors" have gone the way of the Dinosaur, when you think in terms of Flash memory think of pages and Blocks.     

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« Last Edit: January 09, 2016, 05:08:50 AM by coreplayer2 »

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2016, 02:17:07 AM »
Sorry for the questions, i honestly am not trying to be difficult.

Just been awake 5 hours from 2am trying to put tinycore onto a usb flash drive,
tried absolutly everything,
it finally worked but only if i uncheck " create tce directory " when running core2usb.
Tinycore worked first time copying onto an 8gb sd card, but it doesn't like the flash drive for some reason

Okay it finally worked but now it won't save my apps, have checked to make sure it says " on boot " on the left. but the bar on the right is like an light red colour
think it can't find the directory

What should i do

Many thanks

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 02:33:59 AM »
I'm not familiar with core2usb, but I presume there is some kind of boot loader config file - what are the contents of this file on the usb flash drive?

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2016, 02:37:44 AM »
Sorry you've wasted so much time on this step..

one of those "trying too hard" scenario's..??

Perhaps you would benefit from reading the core book from http://tinycorelinux.net/book.html


If you're installing from a cd, then simply copy the " cde " directory complete with all of it's contents and after copy is finished, rename the " cde " directory on your flash drive or SD card to " tce "

***!!!  Remove all Tinycore Linux cd's and sd card if you're trying to boot you USB drive install  !!!***

Maybe buy a new USB Flash drive.
good luck

Oooops didn't see juanito had posted

Offline john11

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2016, 03:32:40 AM »
Hi Thanks for the reply.

No i don't have a cd, (everyone keeps talking about a cd) i downloaded the image file from here:

http://tinycorelinux.net/faq.html#pendrives

and also core2usb from the same page.

Then used core2usb to copy the image to flash drive which gave me 2 folders boot and tce.

If i uncheck create tce directory in core2usb tinycore boots up fine and i get the folders boot and cde. This is the only way i can get it to boot.

But when i install apps into tinycore it creates a tce folder and then it won't boot again.

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Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2016, 04:10:27 AM »
Hello John
From the link you provided is this important paragraph

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Therefore if one insists on using a third party installation tool and one that does not officially support Core and thereby copies the entirety of the TinyCore iso then you are faced with manual setup of either creating a second partition for your tce dir, or renaming the cde to tce thus indicating that this is not a CD and editing the syslinux.cfg changing cde to waitusb=5 to indicate that is a pendrive.
It is not recommended to have a cde directory on any live working system. The whole point of modularity is the ability to easily upgrade the X/GUI extension separate from the base Core.
Therefore in the case of unetbootin renaming cde to tce is required.

Also please as previously requested post the contents of your config file "syslinux.conf" likely located in the boot directory

Thank you


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« Last Edit: January 10, 2016, 04:14:58 AM by coreplayer2 »

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2016, 05:41:09 AM »
But when i install apps into tinycore it creates a tce folder and then it won't boot again.

Please elaborate. The bios refuses?
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2016, 10:51:26 PM »
The story so far.

Copied tinycore to an 8gb sd card, and it worked perfectly.

Tried to copy tinycore to a usb flash drive, it did not work, think the drive may be damaged.

Abandoned that, now am trying to copy tiny core to a hard drive.

I have a hp elitebook 8570p laptop, intel based. Booted tinycore from the sd card, and plugged the hard drive into the laptop's esata port.
used tc_install,  and have gone through all the different available options one by one but it won't boot from this hard drive.

Is it a formatting problem. The partiton i created to put tiny core onto is 4gb in size and reads as "primary data partiton" in aeasus partition manager, also the option to make the partiton active is greyed out.

Any advice?

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2016, 11:11:17 PM »
Are you sure the laptop will boot from a hd attached to the esata port - on a previous dell laptop I did not have much luck with the esata port.

After booting the laptop from the sd card, did you try to use gparted to create/format/mark active the partition on the hd?

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2016, 01:51:36 AM »
Personally i would not use a Windows tool to prepare a Linux installation. It does not sound as though your 'primary data partition' is properly set up. You did not mention the file system, is it Linux compatible (eg ext 3)?

Maybe take a look at this: http://www.tinycorelinux.net/install_manual.html. Always be careful to select the correct drive so you don't lose data. Hopefully this 'how to' isn't too dated, it uses Linux tools and is Tiny Core specific. No idea regarding esata, if Juanito doesn't think it works well might jut be wasting your time.

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2016, 02:56:29 AM »
Many thanks, i will give the link you supplied a good read, just rushing off for work at the moment.

The laptop does boot from esata.

When i use tc install i get one folder on the esata hard drive tce, it has one boot folder inside it and also a rar file labelled my data.

@ nitram: I formatted with tc_install using each of the formatting options one by one, but in each case tinycore failed to boot.

@Juanito: i didn't use gparted, i tried easus as it is already installed,will give gparted a try, but the active option was greyed out on easus.

Many thanks.

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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2016, 05:41:42 AM »
You still didn't mention what you mean by "failed to boot". It matters how it fails.

Also, this seems like an EFI laptop, have you made sure the BIOS has MBR support enabled?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2016, 05:44:13 AM by curaga »
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Re: Stuck at tc@box:$
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2016, 07:20:09 PM »
@john11

I would very much like to help here and I believe I can do that. However, it would help me to know if you have a working Linux drive (any distro at all) besides TC?