needless downloading of extensions.

[cast-fish]

Hello,

Please can you tell me how i can prevent needless downloading of
extensions.

I already have a folder on storage that is filled with tcl extensions.
They were gathered by selecting only the "download" option in the
apps browser.

How do i re-install these stored extensions into a virgin tcl
and have persistence with them?

Does it mean copying them over to the tce directory one by one
and all the dependancies also?

thanks

V.

[curaga]

The easiest way is to copy the entire tce folder, that way you can be sure all deps come along.

[cast-fish]

Hello

ok thanks

i never realized how this OS works.  The extension files are all .tcz files regardless of if they are
dependancy files or a core app files.

It seems to be real logical. Real easy.

Unlike other linux distros which are real complex with file structures

V.

[cast-fish]

Hello

i am not sure what happened here.

See my first post.

I don't understand your reply  "the easiest way is to copy the entire tce folder" copy it to where?

I had a folder here that was filled with .tcz extension files. I had got these
by selecting the "download only" option in tcl.

All i wanted to do was know how to have persistence across boots for whichever of those extensions i chose to manually load during a tcl session.
(e.g Audacity)

I figured your reply meant...copy that entire folder of .tcz files over into the
tce directory.

I actually did this, but copied them to the "optional" directory inside the
tce folder.....is that right?

Basically, stuff does not work right now. Things don't load right
and it's a mess.

V.

[Guy]

You need to put Apps (not dependencies) in On Boot or On Demand using Apps Audit, then reboot.

Yes, the /tce/optional directory is correct.

[cast-fish]

Hello Guy /Curaga etc

can you be more clear here?

See the first post.

i have a folder, (any folder, it could be called anything) and inside that
folder and many .tcz files. The files can be tcl app files and also tcl
dep files.

I gathered that folder by selecting the "download only" option in tcl.

What i now want to do is boot into tcl, manually install one of the app
files from that folderand it should automatically get the deps also shouldn't
it.

Then, in addition, do i just go into apps audit and Select "Onboot" and click
the same app title as above "thus listing it". Then i have persistence with
that app over reboots?

thanks

V.

[Guy]

It seems you have all .tcz and .dep files in /tce/optional already. Just to make it clear, it needs to be /mnt/sda1/tce/optional, or a partition other than sda1.

Then, in addition, do i just go into apps audit and Select "Onboot" and click
the same app title as above "thus listing it". Then i have persistence with
that app over reboots?

yes

Go into apps audit and select OnBoot or Ondemand, and click on apps. Restart the computer. Then you will be start apps.

[Rich]

Hi cast-fish
If I understand you correctly, you have a folder full of apps that is not named /tce/optional. I've never
done this myself, but I think what you want to do is:
1. Open AppBrowser
2. Click on Local
3. Click on Favorites and then File Systems
4. Navigate to the directory containing the apps
5. Click on the app you wish to install
6. Click on OK
7. You may have to click Go

[cast-fish]

Hi rich

uh i just commented on this subject again.

No, is the answer to your question rich. The folder is correctly called tce/optional and is full of .tcz files.

ye

V.

[Guy]

Hi cast-fish
If I understand you correctly, you have a folder full of apps that is not named /tce/optional. I've never
done this myself, but I think what you want to do is:
1. Open AppBrowser
2. Click on Local
3. Click on Favorites and then File Systems
4. Navigate to the directory containing the apps
5. Click on the app you wish to install
6. Click on OK
7. You may have to click Go

No

If you do it that way, you will be able to run the app for that session, but it will not put it in the /tce/optional directory, so you will need to load it every time using that method.

If you put it in the /tce/optional directory, and OnBoot or OnDemand, you will be able to start it from the menu or wbar each time the computer is started.

[cast-fish]

ye guy

something weird has happened here over time.

i will tell you in detail what i have here and the scenario.

Currently i have  a correctly named folder called tce/optional containing
lots of .tcz files. The permissions on those files are not all identical.

a) How did i get this folder above....... in the first place?

The answer to that question in a) is not straight forward.

1) I had built several tcl computer systems then trashed them all. (forgot about them over time)

2) all the tcl computers were built in the same way by gathering apps from the app store as "download only" option.

3) As i dumped each tcl computer in the bin i kept hold of that folder filled
with .tcz files and renamed the folder to something arbitrary. (tea1, or tea2 etc)

4) after a while i ended up with four arbitralily named folders all filled with
.tcz files.

5) One day i decided to melt all those folders together into 1 and i can't remember what order i did this in. I may have copied the newest folder contents over into the oldest folder and so on. When it said "there are same name files present, what do you want to do?....i selected "batch, skip all"

6) This resulted in 1 single new folder filled with .tcz files. I named this folder
tce/optional and again tried to use it a virgin boot of TCL to load up apps and use them in a session.

But now apps have lots of issues and problems....they don't load and some of the .tcz files in that tce/optional folder show 0 bytes as the size. Also permissions are sometimes different on different files in the same folder.

WHat i noticed while using Fluff to copy over these large amounts of files
was fluff saying "600 files possibly copied"........does that mean Fluff may have failed in certain copying processes?

V.

[Rich]

Hi cast-fish
I guess I misunderstood, when you wrote:

i have a folder, (any folder, it could be called anything) and inside that
folder and many .tcz files. The files can be tcl app files and also tcl
dep files.

I thought you had downloaded the apps into a different folder.

@Guy: Thanks for the clarification, I was under the impression that you could do a persistent install
           from a local repository that way. My mistake.

       [EDIT]: Corrected wording

[Guy]

If you have old apps and dep files, some of them may be out of date. You may have also messed some things up.

I suggest downloading them again.

[cast-fish]

hello

hmmm

ye Rich...my typing is bad. I basically downloaded the apps  "download only" option and they went into the appropriate folder. Then afterwards i had changed the name of that folder.

All this name changing and copying and stuff is simply due to the fact that
i can't use bootcodes on a tcl CD disc boot. So i can't "nobase" or "norestore" and such like.

Thus to get tcl to avoid certain folders and get a  virgin boot...i must rename those folders (or move them away from tcl sight)

V.

[Rich]

Hi cast-fish
I'm going to go a little off topic for a minute....
You say you can't enter boot codes and in another thread mentioned only 4 keys on the keyboard
work. That suggests a laptop with an external USB keyboard that's not recognized until after booting
is complete. If you can get into the BIOS and change settings, try changing the USB Legacy setting.
If you can't do that, but the laptop has a mini DIN connector for an external keyboard, get a USB to
DIN adapter, that's what I use for my mouse.
Back on topic, I have to agree with Guy, sounds like you made a mess, best you clean out your
tce directory and re-install your apps.