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Need help with unofficial TCE
newbody:
Guy, thanks for that link to the Wiki.
First time I see it. That one will help me a lot. I report back later today if I stumble and fall.
Not to criticize. But it start by saying that the easiest is to burn a CD with TCE on.
that may be so for the majority of users but not for this one.
My Acer Aspire One Netbook does not have a built in Burner, then one would need to buy an external one.
second. the burner software I have don't make digital media that way, only for listening to music not starting an OS.
One need to have the knowledge to find that software first.
took me a year or so when learned how to make Puppy DVDs around 2008.
I've started with it 2006 with a free Ubuntu CD/DVD they gave me at the Computer Shop.
Then people told me to use Puppy instead for slow Ubuntu. So around 2008 I had learned it.
but not everybody are that challenged, I agree but I trust a lot of people have USB memory sticks but not CD or DVD burner programs.
So how to make an USB stick boot up would be cool to have there at start too?
And the absolutely easiest thing is to just place TCE on the HDD and make a frugal install.
No need for CD burner progs or to buy any USB memory drive. Just use what one already got.
But sure it needs very good description for it to work for a clumsy newbie like myself.
But around this time one year ago on another computer I did have TCE going but not I don't remember how I did it. So I guess I have to find which computer that was and copy the menu.lst entry I did that worked for me and the files and move them to the current computer and see if it starts here too.
But I sure like how you set it up there. Looks great to me.
Guy:
newbody, please clarify your situation, so we can help.
Have you not been able to install Tiny Core yet?
How do you have partitions set up?
What operating systems do you already have on the computer?
If you already have Linux, you will probably already have Grub. Is that the case?
Do you have a cd/dvd reader, but not a writer?
It is quite easy to install Tiny Core without a cd writer. I am just not clear about your situation.
newbody:
Hi Guy thanks for wanting to help me. I try to address all your questions in relation to them one by one.
newbody, please clarify your situation, so we can help.
Have you not been able to install Tiny Core yet?
I've installed the Remix by SvOlli and that one works rather good. It is the same as 341 as far as I know. He has only added a few things that comes included from scratch like maps so in grub4dos menu.lst I did put this. kmap=qwerty/fi-latin9 and that allowed me to do ü and ï and åäö and such. I fail to get AltGr that would allow me to do $ £ € [] { } which I can do in Puppy.
I managed to get sound going by reading the wika. So not I have to read up on how to set up the Iptables correctly. Have no idea how one do such. Puppy do that automatically by a click.
kmap=qwerty/fi-latin9 what would happen if I change that to kmap=qwerty/se-latin1
okay back to your next question.
How do you have partitions set up?
I only have NTFS and three partitions set up by OEM and I use this menulist
--- Quote ---title TinyCore Remix by SvOlli 3.4.1 with ntfs-3g
root (hd0,2)
kernel /tce/release/bzImage tinycore opt=sda3 tce=sda3 home=sda3 local=sda3 showapps noswap syslog kmap=qwerty/fi-latin9
initrd /tce/release/tinycoreplus.gz
--- End quote ---
Maybe I did something wrong there. I need to backup to get persistence which I did hope the arguments above would give me.
What operating systems do you already have on the computer?
Win7Starter, Some ten Puppy Linux in frugal install, Archiso, Swift, Slabix, Knoppix and some more. SlitaZ Nimblex Vector Goblin, Wolvix, Slax, etc
If you already have Linux, you will probably already have Grub. Is that the case?
Yes grub4dos
Do you have a cd/dvd reader, but not a writer?
None of that. it is a Netbook they are too small to have built in such big things.
It is quite easy to install Tiny Core without a cd writer. I am just not clear about your situation.
Well TC base need ntfs - 3g to work so it is super easy if you know how to but if you like me fail to read written instructions and understand them then it can be super difficult until I know then it sure is very easy. I've done some 25 to 30 frugal installs of Puppy Linux and it is super easy when one know how to.
Now when I already have the remix going. how can I do a frugal install of TC base or what you name it. Current version.
Will not the subdirs compete with each other? Can I rename boot to tceboot or does it not see that one ? I change the entry in grub accordingly?
tinypoodle:
--- Quote from: newbody on February 06, 2011, 02:04:07 PM ---
--- Quote ---opt=sda3 tce=sda3 home=sda3 local=sda3
--- End quote ---
Maybe I did something wrong there. I need to backup to get persistence which I did hope the arguments above would give me.
--- End quote ---
None of those with exception from tce= could ever work on a non-UNIX filesystem.
Please see documentation about using backup and restore (and possibly PPR) for persistence.
--- Quote ---I've done some 25 to 30 frugal installs of Puppy Linux and it is super easy when one know how to.
--- End quote ---
A frugal install of TC seems to be more simple compared to Puppy, as only copying of 2 files and specifying them as kernel and initrd in bootloader are required.
newbody:
Yes tinypoodle, you are right. One only need two files but then one need a linux partition.
One can only set up such on computers that one own. OEM has made it risky to do such on their set ups with windows recovery demanding that the HDD is not touched by any formatting or shrinking because that change the size and the saved dientity of that HDD it will look tampered with.
So one need to go the USB or CD route. So sure it is easier with two instead of three files.
But TC seems then impossible to do on NTFS unless you first install it on something else and makes it ntfs-3g compatible?
Are you sure it is not possible? Have none explained how to in the whole forum?
What on earth did I do then one year ago. I remember I had it on the Menu.lst and on the HDD too but did it never boot? I have to go through all my posts since me joined to find out.
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