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Rich:
Hi jazzbiker
--- Quote from: jazzbiker on December 26, 2023, 02:10:14 PM --- ... It is so comfortable and convenient to: ...
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That's an easy statement to make when you have years of
experience and hindsight to rely on.
About 15 years ago when I was looking for an alternative to
Windows, I had neither of those to rely on.
--- Quote --- ... 1. dd it to some drive and instantly dive at the full depth. ...
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I didn't know about dd. As a newb, that was probably a good thing.
--- Quote --- ... 2. Run it in qemu, perform some tweaking and return to the point 1. ...
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Even if I knew about qemu, my hardware probably was not
up to the task of running it.
--- Quote --- ... 3. Mount in rw mode and adjust manually. ...
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Mount? That would have been a foreign concept for someone coming
from the Windows world.
Back then, I started out with zero Linux experience. I wasn't looking to
install anything. I didn't want anything writing to my hard drive.
Those live ISO's were a useful stepping stone for this know-nothing
newbie. They allowed me (with my limited knowledge) to test various
distros to see which ones were best suited for my hardware prior to
committing to installing one.
patrikg:
Rich you mension DD
Here is a site that i have get lots of tips from regarding DD..
https://www.noah.org/mediawiki-1.34.2/index.php?title=Dd_-_Destroyer_of_Disks
jazzbiker:
Hi CNK!
--- Quote from: CNK on December 26, 2023, 04:37:30 PM ---Well I still write them to CDs. You could include all the functionality of your disk image in a dd-able ISO anyway, catering for the likes of me as well. Dual BIOS/UEFI booting is possible with dd-written ISOs, though it took me quite a while to figure out how to set that up right.
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CDs are rather expensive toys nowadays :-) What is CD/USBflash exchange rate in Your country?
In fact almost every ISO found itself written to some kind of flash drive.
--- Quote from: CNK on December 26, 2023, 04:37:30 PM ---But everyone has their own opinions. I believe Puppy Linux switched from ISOs to disk images a while ago, so your opinion isn't unique. That might have turned me off, except I already hadn't tried a new Puppy Linux version in many years anyway.
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Well, I'm glad not to be alone, and in the good company :-) Join us with BarryK!
jazzbiker:
Hi Rich!
--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---Hi jazzbiker
--- Quote from: jazzbiker on December 26, 2023, 02:10:14 PM --- ... It is so comfortable and convenient to: ...
--- End quote ---
That's an easy statement to make when you have years of
experience and hindsight to rely on.
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I think installation with the single dd is comfortable and convenient for absolute noobs too.
--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---About 15 years ago when I was looking for an alternative to
Windows, I had neither of those to rely on.
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Oh, yeah, 15 years ago I was buying laptops with Win installed too... But Knoppix looked like a portal into another world! I was young and handsome, now Linux swarm is holding us tight ;-)
--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---
--- Quote --- ... 1. dd it to some drive and instantly dive at the full depth. ...
--- End quote ---
I didn't know about dd. As a newb, that was probably a good thing.
--- End quote ---
Everything must be just in its time: first kiss, first s_e_x, first dd ...
--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---
--- Quote --- ... 2. Run it in qemu, perform some tweaking and return to the point 1. ...
--- End quote ---
Even if I knew about qemu, my hardware probably was not
up to the task of running it.
--- End quote ---
The same as above but
--- Code: ---sed -e 's/dd/qemu/'
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--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---
--- Quote --- ... 3. Mount in rw mode and adjust manually. ...
--- End quote ---
Mount? That would have been a foreign concept for someone coming
from the Windows world.
--- End quote ---
--- Code: ---sed -e 's/qemu/mount/'
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--- Quote from: Rich on December 26, 2023, 10:55:51 PM ---Back then, I started out with zero Linux experience. I wasn't looking to
install anything. I didn't want anything writing to my hard drive.
Those live ISO's were a useful stepping stone for this know-nothing
newbie. They allowed me (with my limited knowledge) to test various
distros to see which ones were best suited for my hardware prior to
committing to installing one.
--- End quote ---
Of course ISOs are great, but alive filesystem and even device images are - better? more flexible? attractive as for new experience? But bigger, still does it really matters nowadays?
core-user:
Optical media is pretty much dead as far as installable live media is concerned - pendrives have been king since USB2 arrived. ;)
(If frightened of using 'dd', you can also use 'cat' or 'cp' to put nearly every image onto a pendrive.)
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