Modern nvidia driver or recent nouveau?

[CardealRusso]

Hello, friends. I really like TinyCore. I am looking at using it as my one and only main system.

I have tested both dCore and x86 Pure 64 and have failed to get a proprietary or open source driver installed for my GTX 1650. Can anyone provide me with any assistance?

[Juanito]

What have you tried so far - Xorg-7.7, Xorg-7.7-3d, nouveau kernel drivers, etc and what happened?

[CardealRusso]

What have you tried so far - Xorg-7.7, Xorg-7.7-3d, nouveau kernel drivers, etc and what happened?

Thanks a lot for the help. I'm not very familiar with TinyCore (actually I'm not very faimiar with linux on desktop, usually I just use a remote terminal). Apparently I was installing the wrong packages. After installing:

firmware-nvidia.tcz
graphics-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
nouveau-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
Xorg-7.7.tcz
Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz

The nouveau driver is now working properly again.

Taking advantage of the help, I would like to have some help on the keys and on the audio.

I installed the kmaps package and added kmap=qwerty/br-abnt2 in grub.cfg, but that wasn't enough to change the keyboard layout, what could I do?

[CardealRusso]

What have you tried so far - Xorg-7.7, Xorg-7.7-3d, nouveau kernel drivers, etc and what happened?

Thanks a lot for the help. I'm not very familiar with TinyCore (actually I'm not very faimiar with linux on desktop, usually I just use a remote terminal). Apparently I was installing the wrong packages. After installing:

firmware-nvidia.tcz
graphics-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
nouveau-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
Xorg-7.7.tcz
Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz

The nouveau driver is now working properly again.

Taking advantage of the help, I would like to have some help on the keys and on the audio.

I installed the kmaps package and added kmap=qwerty/br-abnt2 in grub.cfg, but that wasn't enough to change the keyboard layout, what could I do?

@edit
I somehow managed to change the keyboard by editing the .xsession and adding it to backupt, but i dont wanted to have a backup file
same applied to alsa audio, i also managed to get it to work, it was pretty easy actually, but i needed to create a backup for the alsactl init

[CardealRusso]

What have you tried so far - Xorg-7.7, Xorg-7.7-3d, nouveau kernel drivers, etc and what happened?

Thanks a lot for the help. I'm not very familiar with TinyCore (actually I'm not very faimiar with linux on desktop, usually I just use a remote terminal). Apparently I was installing the wrong packages. After installing:

firmware-nvidia.tcz
graphics-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
nouveau-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
Xorg-7.7.tcz
Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz

The nouveau driver is now working properly again.

Taking advantage of the help, I would like to have some help on the keys and on the audio.

I installed the kmaps package and added kmap=qwerty/br-abnt2 in grub.cfg, but that wasn't enough to change the keyboard layout, what could I do?

While the nouveau its working, it is damn slow. the proprietary driver is needed.

[Juanito]

Did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if hardware acceleration is working.

Note also that if you want to avoid using a backup, you can add a configuration file to your local copy of the relevant extension.

[CardealRusso]

Did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if hardware acceleration is working.

Note also that if you want to avoid using a backup, you can add a configuration file to your local copy of the relevant extension.

I can't say if it's being accelerated or not, but it's much faster after I installed the nouveau  driver compared to no driver at all but, even with the nouveau driver, the mesa-demos are performing infinitely lower than low cost video cards  from 12 years ago! it is exaggeratedly slow.

[aus9]

Juanito is the expert here....but my comments are

IMHO your xorg log shows that you have used a boot code vga=791 and the internet suggests that Kernel mode setting KMS does not like that.

The Nouveau kernel module should load automatically on system boot. If it does not happen, then:
    Make sure you do not have nomodeset or vga= as a kernel parameter, since Nouveau requires kernel mode-setting.

ref
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Nouveau

Do you need UEFI on?

2) Can you download and install inxi please. its a lot easier to understand than reading your log. Your log shows loading and unloading of various video drivers.

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tce-load -w inxi
tce-load -i inxi
inxi -Gxxx
I will give you an idea of the load unload going with my results.

NOT OP just example
inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 pcie: speed: 8 GT/s
    lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DVI-D-1,HDMI-A-2 bus-ID: 26:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:15d8 class-ID: 0300 temp: 37.0 C
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 model: LG (GoldStar) FULL HD
    res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 480x270mm (18.9x10.63")
    diag: 551mm (21.7") modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo
    missing.

so its lot easier IMHO to see that unloaded: fbdev,vesa but inxi does not show any conflicting or blacklisting boot loader settings while Xorg log does!

I can't say if it's being accelerated or not

...if glxgears spins....you have acceleration

[patrikg]

With the x11 keyboard map problem you may to read this threads.

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25863.msg165846.html#msg165846

[Juanito]

Your Xorg log shows this:

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[    25.764] (==) Matched nouveau as autoconfigured driver 0
[    25.764] (==) Matched nv as autoconfigured driver 1
[    25.764] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[    25.764] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[    25.764] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4..meaning its first preference is to use the nouveau driver.

..but it can't find the nouveau module:

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[    25.764] (II) LoadModule: "nouveau"
[    25.764] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nouveau
[    25.764] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0)
..and so:

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[    25.779] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory..which means 3d hardware acceleration is not being used (fbdev is being used).

The nouveau-KERNEL extension provides nouveau.ko.gz, does "lsmod" show that it is loaded? If not try "sudo modprobe nouveau" and check again.

Is the xf86-video-nouveau extension loaded?

[Juanito]

...if glxgears spins....you have acceleration

Yes, but they will spin with both software (lavapipe) and hardware acceleration - better to use "glxinfo | grep Accel"

[CardealRusso]

...if glxgears spins....you have acceleration

Yes, but they will spin with both software (lavapipe) and hardware acceleration - better to use "glxinfo | grep Accel"

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tc@box:~$ glxinfo | grep Accel
    Accelerated: no

tc@box:~$ sudo modprobe nouveau
modprobe: module nouveau not found in modules.dep

tc@box:~$ inxi -Gxxx
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
        LANGUAGE = (unset),
        LC_ALL = (unset),
        LANG = "pt_BR"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A arch: Turing pcie:
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f82 class-ID: 0300
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: nouveau,vesa
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting alternate: nv dri: swrast gpu: N/A
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1440x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 381x238mm (15.00x9.37")
    s-diag: 449mm (17.69")
  Monitor-1: default res: 1440x900 hz: 77 size: N/A modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.7 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.7 256 bits)
    direct-render: Yes

I installed everything related to nouveau. The comments by xf86-video-nouveau say that my video card is not supported.

Does the order of the packages matter?

Do you need UEFI on?

Sadly yes. My motherboard is UEFI only. I can't even boot into windows 7.

[Juanito]

If you get this:

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sudo modprobe nouveau
modprobe: module nouveau not found in modules.dep
..it means nouveau-KERNEL is not loaded.

What does this give:

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tce-status -i | grep nouveau

[CardealRusso]

If you get this:

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sudo modprobe nouveau[code]
modprobe: module nouveau not found in modules.dep
..it means nouveau-KERNEL is not loaded.

What does this give:

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tce-status -i | grep nouveau

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tc@box:~$ tce-status -i | grep nouveau
xf86-video-nouveau
I installed xf86-video-nouveau now after you advise me. I don't know what happened before but the result is apparently the same.

@edit
Maybe I found the problem. Apparently, when I tried to load the driver through the apps, the driver restarted before the files were saved to the USB stick. I just noticed that several files, i2c, nouveau and etc were 0kb. I will update soon.

[CardealRusso]

If you get this:

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sudo modprobe nouveau
modprobe: module nouveau not found in modules.dep
..it means nouveau-KERNEL is not loaded.

What does this give:

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tce-status -i | grep nouveau

Everything is seems installed correctly. but still no acceleration.

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tc@box:~$ sudo modprobe nouveau

tce-status -i | grep nouveau
nouveau-6.1.2-tinycore64

tc@box:~$ glxinfo | grep Accel
    Accelerated: no

tc@box:~$ inxi -Gxxx
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
        LANGUAGE = (unset),
        LC_ALL = (unset),
        LANG = "pt_BR"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau v: kernel arch: Turing
    pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4 ports: active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1
    bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1f82 class-ID: 0300 temp: 37.0 C
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: nouveau,nv dri: swrast gpu: nouveau
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1440x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 381x238mm (15.00x9.37")
    s-diag: 449mm (17.69")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 model: HDMI res: 1440x900 hz: 60
    dpi: 64 size: 575x323mm (22.64x12.72") modes: max: 1440x900 min: 720x400
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.7 renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.7 256 bits)
    direct-render: Yes


tc@box:~$ glxgears
1895 frames in 5.0 seconds = 378.986 FPS
1878 frames in 5.0 seconds = 375.515 FPS
2035 frames in 5.0 seconds = 406.945 FPS

onboot.lst:

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Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz
nouveau-6.1.2-tinycore64.tcz
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