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hiro:
no, it's not free at all, it's trapped in the soil and not coming out unless we mess up the soil.
and moore's exponential law cannot continue unless we exponentially increase the amount of planets with such soil (which i doubt will happen considering how our technology is generally becoming more and more unusable).

PDP-8:
A more practical way of seeing how inefficient old computers are is to put an inline ac wattmeter inline, and do stuff, like shut down hard drives and run from usb sticks etc etc.  You'd be surprised.

The easiest to find and use are the "Kill-A-Watt" inline meters.  Easy to use.

Spinning down / removing the hard drive is a biggie, and then using things like powertop, you can actually see results, rather than rely on blogger conjecture.

Sometimes what they say mean nothing when measured at your wall outlet, and then sometimes it does!  Best to verify for yourself.  Good to have.

Re: dirt energy and all that stuff.  Makes me smile and listen to Capt. Beefheart songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxxmAK6iYg

Just joking guys....  but do grab a Kill-A-Watt and see what makes a difference and what doesn't.

xor:
energy accumulated in the soil; (It is the energy coming from the sun.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy
In this respect, it becomes + and - neutralized in the form of lightning, which is loaded from the ground after the process of accumulating more energy than the need of the world.
but we usually perceive it in a top-down form!

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lightning+rising+from+the+ground


--- Quote from: hiro on July 27, 2020, 04:22:25 AM ---no, it's not free at all, it's trapped in the soil and not coming out unless we mess up the soil.
and moore's exponential law cannot continue unless we exponentially increase the amount of planets with such soil (which i doubt will happen considering how our technology is generally becoming more and more unusable).

--- End quote ---

hiro:
oh dude, leave me alone with your armchair astrology please.
and why does every half-hearted argument from you end with a youtube search query?

hiro:
@pdp8 certainly we should use tools to make ourselves aware of actual energy consumption.

and one very important advisor: turn off your computer safely sometimes. and all other devices you have at home. as long as there's light you could read a nice book, for example  UNIX: A History and a Memoir by Brian W. Kernighan. hahaha.

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