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Offline labeas

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Wifi installation - new laptop.
« on: August 24, 2019, 01:03:46 PM »
This topic is NOT specific to this Group, but the web-based forum-app
"doesn't help"!
Juanito wrote:
>   Please make your wifi help request in a new post
>    and tell us what hardware you have.
HOW would I get to know that? -------------
For installation of TC64 V7.2, coreplayer2 wrote:
   You'll need to run tce-install -wi wifi from the command line
    while connected via ethernet to correctly install the kernel
    compatible driver and other deps for TC-10 x86_64  and your
   latest notebook
No! I haven't got ethernet. We installed wifi to Ver7.2, starting
from detecting the existing hardware. After that was reported, a
whole set of <RTL firmware> was added to the ver7.2 repository.
For this newer/UEFIproblematic laptop:-
    # dmesg | grep 802 == MACsec IEEE 802.1AE
    # dmesg | grep ifi == nil
Please advise on steps to proceed, without ethernet.
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I wrote the above in Ver10.0: hacked GUI & wily.
Now I'm in V7.2 which has working wifi.
BTW I seem to have succeeded in installing "core"  [which is 32b
and has no GUI?] to the UEFI-problematic laptop.
So it seems a bad idea that wifi on this V7.2 needs GUI?
Also BTW, I tested the <grub2UEFIbootStik> on the older (V7.2)
laptop for TC64 booting. It starts with "<no suitable video>".
And I wasn't able to hack it to `startx`.
As expected: it is just by chance that the newer laptop gets to
startx, with Ver7.2 files.  ------------------
I've noted, and will try to do:--
> grab wifi.tcz and all it's many dependencies from the latest TC-10
> x86_64 ISO and install them using  tce-install -i wifi
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>  tce-install -i wifi
>
>   Then run dmesg | grep wifi  to determine which firmware if any
>    you need to install
>
>   then install the required firmware
>
>  Be sure to install wifi.tcz and firmware-xxxxx.tcz to your onboot.lst
  ------
But I need V10.0 NOT the LATEST?   Moving target problem !
What's the URL of that Ver 10,0 x86_64 ISO?


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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2019, 01:22:03 PM »
Hi labeas
... But I need V10.0 NOT the LATEST?   Moving target problem !
What's the URL of that Ver 10,0 x86_64 ISO?
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/archive/10.0/

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2019, 02:15:39 PM »

I've noted, and will try to do:--
> grab wifi.tcz and all it's many dependencies from the latest TC-10

perhaps "Script to download extensions+dependencies on other Linux distros" - http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23034.0.html
can be used to get 10.x wifi.tcz and dependencies from the 7.x wireless connection !?!!


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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 04:28:40 AM »
HOW would I get to know that?

Use the "lspci" command available via the pciutils extension.

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 07:20:44 PM »
One should not be subject to such torture !
I couldn't remember nor find my log of how I installed my Ver7.2;
but it seems absurd to need to get the kernel & initrd off an ISO.
So I had to study <The Book ver 4> chapter 10, 11.
The problematic laptop doesn't show the Win10 disk [as sda], so.
USBstik is sda1, sda2 and I just tested it with my old Ver7.2 apps:-
cd /mnt/sda1/tczList
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt
sudo openvt

./InstallThese # FOR loop

sudo gpm -m /dev/psaux -t ps2

sudo ln -s /mnt/sda1/tczList/dvtm  /usr/local/sbin/dvtm

echo "TEST: gpm, mc, dvtm, opera-12, wily : "
which gpm
which mc
which dvtm
which opera-12
which wily
------------ Everything looks good, especially
 opera-12 has no font tearing like in Ver7.2 ------------
               
Then I tested the GrubUEFIstik on *THIS* laptop which has got wifi.
At boot == "no suitable video mode found".
I can't remember if the problematic latop needed `startx`, or like
this Ver7.2 it auto-startsX.
`startx` on the <V7.2 laptop> with the GrubUEFI bootStik
  == "No hup: failed for waitX."
The idea was to use the wifi capable laptop to get proper V10.0 *tczS.
HOW2 test/use wifi without GUI ?
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Juanito wrote:
>   Please make your wifi help request in a new post
>    and tell us what hardware you have.
OK: Wifi installation - new laptop.
=====.
This topic is NOT specific to this Group, but the web-based forum-app
"doesn't help"! ========
For installation of TC64 V7.2, coreplayer2 wrote:.
   You'll need to run tce-install -wi wifi from the command line
    while connected via ethernet to correctly install the kernel
    compatible driver and other deps for TC-10 x86_64  and your
   latest notebook
No! I haven't got ethernet. We installed wifi to Ver7.2, starting
from detecting the existing hardware. After that was reported, a
whole set of <RTL firmware> was added to the ver7.2 repository.
For this newer/UEFIproblematic laptop:-
    # dmesg | grep 802 == MACsec IEEE 802.1AE
    # dmesg | grep ifi == nil
Please advise on steps to proceed, without ethernet.
I know the <win10WifiDriver>.zip from google.

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2019, 08:30:23 PM »
Hi labeas
One should not be subject to such torture !
I couldn't remember nor find my log of how I installed my Ver7.2;
but it seems absurd to need to get the kernel & initrd off an ISO. ...
Yes, it would be absurd if that were true, but you ask for the ISO. Here's your request and my response:
Hi labeas
... But I need V10.0 NOT the LATEST?   Moving target problem !
What's the URL of that Ver 10,0 x86_64 ISO?
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/archive/10.0/
If you take a look in the  distribution_files  directory of the above link:
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/archive/10.0/distribution_files/
you will find the following:
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../
corepure64.gz                                      09-Jun-2019 12:39            10397440
corepure64.gz.md5.txt                              09-Jun-2019 12:39                  48
modules64.gz                                       09-Jun-2019 12:37             6826959
modules64.gz.md5.txt                               09-Jun-2019 12:37                  47
rootfs64.gz                                        09-Jun-2019 12:39             3595754
rootfs64.gz.md5.txt                                09-Jun-2019 12:39                  46
vmlinuz64                                          09-Jun-2019 12:37             4721024
vmlinuz64.md5.txt                                  09-Jun-2019 12:37                  44
Not only are the kernel and initrd there, so are the 2 files that make up the initrd.

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2019, 03:45:40 AM »
OK, I see Rich's URL to v10Distribution files. But I'll post this already composed.
    Offline Juanito
? How to know what wifi hardware is equiped ?
     HOW would I get to know that?

   Use the "lspci" command available via the pciutils extension.
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Plan: move UEFIstik to 7.2 laptop > Test: lspci
ELSE fetch/save/install lspi  > Test: lspci
GetScript to fetch Ver10.0:*.tcz > fetch/save *lspi*
move UEFIstik to 10.0 laptop > Test: lspci > post results.

# lspci == lspci: not found
> AppTool > no lspci [between] lsof lsscsi.
> wget -O getOtherVer.html http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23034.0.html
> edit to extract script > Setscript for ver 10.0
# ./getOtherVer  lspci ==
./getOtherVer: line 61: check: not found
http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.0/x86/tcz/lspci.tcz.tree  not found.
> edit for correct architecture: <x86-64>
# ./getOtherVer  lspci ==
http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.0/x86_64/tcz/lspci.tcz.tree  not found.
# wget -O x86_64Tcz.html http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.0/x86_64/tcz/ ==
 wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
# links http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/ == ... > ...
 Archive of past base releases: 1.x 2.x 3.x 4.x 5.x 6.x 7.x 8.x 9.x 10.x
...  o  Other Ports (x86-64, dCore, & Raspberry Pi)
# links http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/ports.html
... o  Browse Pure 64 TCZs ==...lsof.tcz  lsscsi.tcz ... BAD luck !!
< Core Pure 64 Latest Build == http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/release
==                                    Index of /10.x/x86_64/release/
------------------------------
 ../
 distribution_files/                                20-Jan-2019 11:37                   -
 src/                                               19-Dec-2018 12:17                   -
 CorePure64-10.1.iso                                11-Jun-2019 09:47            15548416
 CorePure64-10.1.iso.md5.txt                        11-Jun-2019 09:47                  54
 CorePure64-10.1.iso.zsync                          11-Jun-2019 09:47               53353
 CorePure64-current.iso                             11-Jun-2019 09:47            15548416
 TinyCorePure64-10.1.iso                            11-Jun-2019 09:47            27262976
 TinyCorePure64-10.1.iso.md5.txt                    11-Jun-2019 09:47                  58
 TinyCorePure64-10.1.iso.zsync                      11-Jun-2019 09:47               93401
 TinyCorePure64-current.iso                         11-Jun-2019 09:47            27262976
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I'm guessing that lspci is a cmnd in another-named.tcz ?
# links http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/archive/10.0/
  == looks better; will try after posting this.

 

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2019, 04:19:51 AM »
As said:

Use the "lspci" command available via the pciutils extension

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2019, 09:10:10 AM »
Hi labeas
Quote
I'm guessing that lspci is a cmnd in another-named.tcz ?
It's in  pci-utlis.

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> wget -O getOtherVer.html http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23034.0.html
> edit to extract script > Setscript for ver 10.0
If that means you changed the  TC  variable in my script to  10.0,  that's wrong. There is only one extension repository for each
version of Tinycore. In your case it should be left as:
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# Tinycore version
TC="10.x"

The only variable you need to change is  ARCH  to 64 bit like this:
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# Processor architecture, current options are  x86  x86_64  armv6  armv7
ARCH="x86_64"

Then run:
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FetchExt.sh pci-utilsYou'll find the  tcz, tcz.dep, and tcz.md5.txt  files for  pci-utils  and its dependencies in the same directory you issued the
FetchExt.sh pci-utils  command.

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2019, 12:48:07 PM »
I didn't manage to get V10.0 <parent of lspci> altho' the script did fetch other *.tcz

# lspci ==
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 2280 (rev 36)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 22b0 (rev 36)
00:03.0 Multimedia controller: Intel Corporation Device 22b8 (rev 36)
00:0b.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Device 22dc (rev 36)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Device 22b5 (rev 36)
00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Device 2298 (rev 36)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 229c (rev 36)

! No apparent wifi. Ver 10.0 would NOT show more ?


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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2019, 01:14:42 PM »
Hi labeas
I didn't manage to get V10.0 <parent of lspci> altho' the script did fetch other *.tcz ...
Are you referring to  pci-utils  for  version 10.0?  There are no  .tcz  files for 10.0 or 10.1, only 10.x.

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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 05:45:59 PM »
I'm in Win10 now. And I saved this thread to C:<file>.
But as previously discussed, when I go to TC64ver10.0, I wont be able to access C:.
=======Let me paste this absurd TCforum post==========
Posts: 6730
 
 
Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #10 on: Today at 10:14:42 AM »

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Hi labeas
Quote from: labeas on Today at 09:48:07 AM
I didn't manage to get V10.0 <parent of lspci> altho' the script did fetch other *.tcz ...

Are you referring to  pci-utils  for  version 10.0?  There are no  .tcz  files for 10.0 or 10.1, only 10.x.
===== end of absurd TCforum post=====
Compare this format to NNTP format.
Consider 2 opposing armies, where yours writes "twenty seven" and mine writes "27".
And BTW is it pci-utils or <pci-utils>; ie. not assured to be verbatim/pasteable correct,
but a mere concept. Both valuable but not to be UNdiscriminated.
   This abused TC-betaTester is exhausted !!
Ver 7.2 lspci-binaries are unlikely to show show less than the latest version.
And the quirk may be related to the fact that the laptop lacked wifi & audio drivers,
as ADVERTISED/MARKED when I bought it.



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Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2019, 08:00:24 PM »
=======Let me paste this absurd TCforum post==========
Posts: 6730
 
 
Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #10 on: Today at 10:14:42 AM »

Quote
Hi labeas
Quote from: labeas on Today at 09:48:07 AM
I didn't manage to get V10.0 <parent of lspci> altho' the script did fetch other *.tcz ...

Are you referring to  pci-utils  for  version 10.0?  There are no  .tcz  files for 10.0 or 10.1, only 10.x.
===== end of absurd TCforum
At this point in the game you’re expected to know the basics of a URL 

You’ve been previously provided with the correct repo url so it should be obvious to any linux user how to navigate the directory hierarchy to find whatever you’re looking for without folks having to spell it out

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http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/Is the current url for all Ver10.x corepure64 files.  Note: the current collection of files are listed under 10.x  there are no 10.0 or 10.1 directories at this url (except those archived)

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http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/Adding tcz/ to the path will result in a printout of the current list of extensions


You’ll find that extension names occasionally change so it’s wise to verify yourself.

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http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz.infoAdding pciutils.tcz.info to the path will print out pciutils info file

Or
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http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz.depAdding pciutils.tcz.dep will list any required dependencies

How easy is that?


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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2019, 09:38:38 PM »
Sorry, i've been away for a while. This project is dragging on;
altho' I've been using my ver. 7.2 *tcz/S with the ver10 <base>;
which all seem to work except for Wifi.
 coreplayer2's last post is an example of what I try to encourage:
giving info whch is GENERAL/UNIVERSAL, which allows the reader to
build/expand on. Ie. give the algorithm of multiplying integers,
rather than the answer of 17x483, as if the reader was a dumb CPU.

wily which allows LITERATE programming does:-
-> wget http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/
-> wget http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz.info
-> wget http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz.dep
-> Lz
-> mv index.html 10.x64tczList
-> wget http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz
-> wget http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/libpci.tcz
=> $ cd /tmp <install 2*.tcz> == tce-load -i pciutils.tcz & libpci.tcz
For transfering to USBstik of <APTIO 18> laptop:-
-> cp pciutils.tcz /mnt/sdd1/pciutilsInstl/
-> cp libpci.tcz   /mnt/sdd1/pciutilsInstl/

-> lspci == for W8.1/<APTIO 15> == ...skip several ...
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter

OMG another umount, unplug, plug, mount to show how the <APTIO 18> laptop shows no Wifi.....
-> dmesg | tail > mount /mnt/sdd1 > Lz /mnt/sdd1 == 4096 : pciutilsInstl
> ls /mnt/sdd1/pciutilsInstl == ...lspciAptio18
> cat /mnt/sdd1/pciutilsInstl/lspciAptio18 ==
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register (rev 36)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Configuration Registers (rev 36)
00:03.0 Multimedia controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Imaging Unit (rev 36)
00:0b.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Power Management Controller (rev 36)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller (rev 36)
00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine (rev 36)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU (rev 36)
... to be continued...


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Re: Wifi installation - new laptop.
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2019, 03:20:34 AM »
Goal Summary: Install wifi to newProblematicLaptop
  using OldLaptop's TC64ver7.2 wilfi to fetch needed files.
 
# wget -/10.x/x86_64/tcz/pciutils.tcz*
fetched by LaptopTC64ver7.2 was tested on LaptopTC64ver7.2
[most packages only have minor changes between versions].

This confirmed lspci: which gave several entries, including:
 "02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor
  Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter".
 
But copying the Ver10 lspci files to <APTIO18> and testing
gave the fewer results, all listed in the previous post,
and seems to have no wifi entry.
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Since the IRREGULAR running of Ver7.2 *.tczS on Ver10<core>
is expected to give unreliable results, I'll copy my well-tested
V7.2 to the <APTIO18>Problematic Laptop to REtest lspci for wifi.
---
I thought of doing a `grep <keyWord>` on the few files of the
<APTIO18>Win10 [whose Wifi works]; but TC doesn't see the Win10
partitions.  TC installs to sda; so perhaps Win10 installs to RAM ?