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Offline Yleisajattelija

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Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« on: September 27, 2012, 04:54:22 PM »
Some peculiar behavior. Intel Core-3i Sandbrigde

Installing xf86-video-intel.tcz and Xorg-7.6.tcz on command line prompt.

I think Xorg starts after short "blink" but with wrong resolution. "Xorg" shows "this display server is already running", but "Xorg -configure" gets error messages to contact "www.tinycorelinux.com"


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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2012, 09:58:41 PM »
i read in the russian version of this manual http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel
that perhaps need to try add option i915.modeset=1 to the kernel boot parameters
to force enable kernel mode setting which is required to run x and desktop environment
and it is important that at the same time do not need use parameters vga=... and nomodeset
this not present in english edition
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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 12:21:36 AM »
I think Xorg starts

What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 02:01:41 AM »
[What does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?

Xorg documentation is badly out-of-date, so it is difficult to find correct bug-report.

a) Didn't found Xorg status query, is there? (every smart coder install error-handling procedure, and one part of that code is piece of software which tells system status, when asked)

b) Becouse average Unix -coder IS NOT using that good-quality-coder-self-respect-thing-called-errorhandling, probably only what is left is messy logfiles. Is there another logfiles than Xorg.0.0.log?

I will dig those when I will arrive to battlefield again tonight.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 02:15:01 AM »
Hi Yleisajattelija
You could check dmesg to see if it logged any messages about your video hardware, but  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
is likely to provide more useful information.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 03:26:05 AM »
Tried with intel 82945G/GZ xf86-video-all and Xorg-7.6 works confless.

That 915 resolution setting should nor be for Xorg (xvesa only), but never knows, what Xorg-staff does.

Dmesg and Xorg.0.log will be supplied later anything else known Xorg status information?

 

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 03:30:30 AM »
And that xf86-vido-all package sets new resolution -> Xor driver layer is isolated from Xorg code -> Xor driver layer error log is needed istead of Xorg log, I guess.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 06:22:41 AM »
Couldn't see any relation to any TCB bug here...
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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 06:33:23 AM »
Couldn't see any relation to any TCB bug here...

I think this is important (filosofical) question. Xor actually is extension on tinycore, but becouse tinycore is booting basically as grafics environment I will count Xorg as part of base system. Besides, all problems are before X boot, so it is on borderline anyway.

If default boot mode would be text based command line (microcore), that would be different.

TinyCore dev-staff of course have better opinion of this issue.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2012, 08:50:20 AM »
Xorg is an extension, so I agree with tinypoodle. Moved.

You said:
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Besides, all problems are before X boot, so it is on borderline anyway.

But I didn't find what's the issue before X?
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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2012, 10:30:03 AM »
Hi Yleisajattelija
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Tried with intel 82945G/GZ xf86-video-all and Xorg-7.6 works confless.
Possibly because it includes  graphics-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz  as a dependency, which you yourself pointed out you
needed on another Intel setup here:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12380.msg67042.html#msg67042
xf86-video-intel.tcz does  not include this dependency.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2012, 04:25:45 PM »
Xorg.0.log attached

Offline Yleisajattelija

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2012, 04:53:10 PM »
graphics-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz is loaded already, probably with Xorg-7.6.tcz.

Curaga said "But I didn't find what's the issue before X?"

Sorry, I'm using wrong terms, as usual. Of course Xvesa is X, too. And Xorg-7.4 was included Xvesa drivers.

As you can see, I don't understand X-stack initialization process, but "normal" distroes are using different runlevel for X/Xorg GUI. I think reason for that is heavy setup needed.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »
Xorg.0.log file:

EDID code for BENQ display and GPU data seems to be OK.

There is some text for 3-D accel, and as far as I know Core 3i accel is not working.

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Re: Problems with TC4.6.2 and Xorg7.6
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 05:17:54 PM »
Hi Yleisajattelija
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graphics-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz is loaded already, probably with Xorg-7.6.tcz.
No, not with  Xorg-7.6.tcz,  but it is a dependency of  Xorg-7.6-3d.tcz.
Juanito mentioned to load graphics-3.0.21-tinycore.tcz and Xorg-7.6.tcz (not Xorg-7.6-3d) here:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12380.msg72431.html#msg72431
He also states earlier in that thread:
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BTW, just to be clear, 3d doesn't work with any hardware requiring the intel driver at the moment...