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Offline cast-fish

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« on: June 18, 2012, 10:35:15 AM »
Hello

i was wondering what are the reasons that tcl is no longer readily supporting NTFS partitions for putting your tce directory?

i will check the forum

V.


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Re: ntfs
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 10:52:51 AM »
It was never supported. Correct writing of NTFS requires ntfs-3g extensions which is optional, it was never part of the base system.
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Re: ntfs
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 10:59:06 AM »
Hi cast-fish
Read this post for a brief explanation:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,11855.msg70385.html#msg70385
And this one for when roberts previously answered that question for you:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13113.msg72330.html#msg72330

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2012, 11:52:57 AM »
It was never supported. Correct writing of NTFS requires ntfs-3g extensions which is optional, it was never part of the base system.

oh well then.

I see. Seem to recall using it right off the bat M.

thanks

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2012, 12:33:01 PM »
Yes Rich

i think it is in connection with using tinycore right from the start. On a CD disc (win pre loaded machine)

when TCL boots wil it auto do a "tce directory" someplace... (not talking about OS instals here...just
what TCL can do with it's native CD disc boot)

would it find and make a persistant TCE directoty someplace?


can't know that' it's any relevance. I know TCE changes often

Thanx

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2012, 01:19:31 PM »
Hi cast-fish
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would it find and make a persistant TCE directoty someplace?
Only on EXT and FAT file systems. If you want the CD to deal with a tce directory on NTFS, you will have
to remaster the CD, and follow the directions in the aforementioned links.

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2012, 05:15:28 PM »
Rich

hello...there

ok....Rich

so is the new user aware about those extensions...?

(could it be simple to infer to new tcL NTFS users how they get the tcL OS
to really have persistence after a reboot.....) 

just thinkin

thx for replying

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2012, 08:59:22 PM »
Hi cast-fish
I'm not sure what you are asking. If you looking for my assurance that newcomers read the section titled:
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Extensions disappear after booting. How do I keep my extensions?
in the FAQs which states:
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Note: Drive partition types supported by Tiny Core base are: ext2, ext3, ext4, fat32.
I can't do that. TC is a toolkit. If one wants it to do something that is not part of its default behavior, one is free
to make modifications, in which case reading the Wiki, FAQs, and forum is strongly recommended.
Even though you can make TC load/save extensions on NTFS, I don't think it is officially supported, but I'm
sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong on that point.

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Re: ntfs
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 09:57:09 PM »
Hello Rich


thanks for the reply.

Yes, it must be just how i see things.

New users, i suppose...are already interested enough to get TCL in the first place and
therefor perhaps they certainly DO read that stuff. (it is normal practice right)

From the extremely limited experience of myself with others...there
is a certain "learning curve" that new TCL users just have to get to grips
with.

As an operating system, tcl could warn on power down, "sorry your apps will
be lost" if TCL "knows" there is no persistence... prompting perhaps further
progress by a user much more soon.  ( or some such idea)

just an idea...

thx

Vi.


 


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Re: ntfs
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2012, 02:30:34 AM »

As an operating system, tcl could warn on power down, "sorry your apps will
be lost" if TCL "knows" there is no persistence... prompting perhaps further
progress by a user much more soon.  ( or some such idea)

just an idea...

thx

Vi.

Core does not invoke persistence of extensions when run in default mode, regardless of presence of filesystems.
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Re: ntfs
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2012, 12:16:02 PM »
Hello

Yes.

hmmm

not sure now what's on now with the original post and all.

As i recall persistence was a case of just making a "tce" directory
some place. Really, is that all a user needs to know?...isn't it? (for getting a useful OS
and apps)

perhaps Then, the new users could be told that on the desktop?. Seems
to make sense because other app/s aspects are real straightforward.


I seem to recall TCL mentioned as going into a lot of diskless machines.

You can recognize however, many new users would be falling into
the aforementioned issues/posted.

Thx

V.i.