scms locales are not automatically loaded

[jls]

I load gimp2-basic but gimp2-basic-locale

[roberts]

By defintion of scm there are no dependencies.
If you need the locale too then install/mount it.

[AbNoRMiS]

is there any logic or need for separating locales
if it is self-contained modules?
this is logical if needed goal to reduce of scm size
but then need to load two pieces as a single composite module
in order to avoid losing logic of self-contained modules
this is not question and not assertion
it's just a thought out loud

[jls]

By defintion of scm there are no dependencies.

this is not true,  for example audacious-gtk2.scm dipends on gtk2.scm

[roberts]

We all know that is the one exception. We would not have it any other way. This has been discussed many times.

[vinnie]

I think we could do the same way of TCZ, the locales.scm may depend on the program.scm, basically there are not other reasons for loading locales more than translating software in use, or not?

[Jason W]

As for the -locale part of the extension, they are used by few.  So some of the larger ones have been separated as to not punish the many with a larger download, and they are very easy to locate and load, no real need for adding them to dep files really.

I think a reasonable criteria is that if a locale pack is around 5mb compressed, and is over half the size of the main extension, then it makes sense to keep it separate.  Otherwise it can just be included.

[AbNoRMiS]

I think we could do the same way of TCZ, the locales.scm may depend on the program.scm, basically there are not other reasons for loading locales more than translating software in use, or not?

make tcz extensions are dependent from their locale was not very successful solution
this brings certain restrictions when removing extensions and those deps which are also dependent from locales

[vinnie]

I have explained bad, I think it is right to separate locales, because doing so there are no contraindications.
However, if I need only load the application simply I does not load the translation, but if I need translated all I need to load only its locales with the right dependencies.

O.T. for the future you have any idea how to unify scm with the ondemand?

P.s. @ abnormis, hey man! I mean the locales dependent from the program not the program dependent from the locales! es:
scm-load -i program.scm charge only program
scm-load -i locales.scm charge program and locales

[AbNoRMiS]

P.s. @ abnormis, hey man! I mean the locales dependent from the program not the program dependent from the locales! es:
scm-load -i program.scm charge only program
scm-load -i locales.scm charge program and locales

dear vinnie
just that i meant that it is not a successful solution
if change this then must in such way as it is implemented in tce-load by checking lang bootcode during extensions load

O.T. for the future you have any idea how to unify scm with the ondemand?

are you mean this topic?

[vinnie]

Yes

[AbNoRMiS]

it seems that is not enough to have an idea
necessary to have a ready-to-use solution

[vinnie]

I think that scm should still be well digested by comunity,
I do not even frame well the situation, so I prefer to listen in silence 

[AbNoRMiS]

if option useless then it will be documented
if option is useful then it will be improved

[AbNoRMiS]

propose to consider and testing changes in the script /usr/bin/scm-load
to be able download, install and uninstall scm locale with primary scm
modified script attached

mountpkg() {
        if [ -f "$1".md5.txt ]; then
     md5sum -c "$1".md5.txt >/dev/null
     if [ "$?" != 0 ]; then
         echo "Error on $EXTENSION"
         abort
     fi
    fi
   
   APP=`basename $1 .scm`
    [ -d /apps/"$APP" ] || sudo mkdir -p /apps/"$APP"
   sudo busybox mount "$1" /apps/"$APP" -t squashfs -o loop,ro,bs=4096
   if [ "$?" == 0 ]; then
      if [ "$LANG" != "C" ] && [ -f $APP-locale.scm ] && [ ! -d /apps/$APP-locale ]; then
         if [ -f $APP-locale.scm.md5.txt ] && md5sum -c $APP-locale.scm.md5.txt >/dev/null; then
            sudo mkdir -p /apps/$APP-locale
            sudo busybox mount $APP-locale.scm /apps/$APP-locale -t squashfs -o loop,ro,bs=4096
         else
            echo "Error on $APP-locale.scm"
         fi
      fi
      if [ "$(ls -A /apps/"$APP")" ]; then
          if [ -x /apps/"$APP"/config/install ]; then
                      sudo /apps/"$APP"/config/install
                    fi
          [ -d /usr/local/share/applications/ ] || sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/applications/
          ls -A /apps/"$APP"/share/applications/*.desktop > /dev/null 2>&1 && \
sudo ln -s /apps/"$APP"/share/applications/*.desktop /usr/local/share/applications/ > /dev/null 2>&1
         
          [ -d /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ ] || sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/share/pixmaps/
          ls -A /apps/"$APP"/share/pixmaps/*.png > /dev/null 2>&1 && \
sudo ln -s /apps/"$APP"/share/pixmaps/*.png /usr/local/share/pixmaps/ > /dev/null 2>&1
         

          if ls -A /apps/"$APP"/bin > /dev/null 2>&1 && ! grep "link_bin=no" /apps/"$APP"/config/spec > /dev/null 2>&1; then
         sudo ln -s /apps/"$APP"/bin/* /apps/bin/ > /dev/null 2>&1
          fi
          if [ ! "$BOOTING" ]; then
             desktop.sh "$APP"
         [ $(which "$DESKTOP"_restart) ] && "$DESKTOP"_restart
         [ -n "$ICONS" ] && "$ICONS".sh &
          fi
      fi
      
   fi
}

fetch_app(){
   echo "0" > /tmp/appserr
   [ -f "$1".dep ] && [ ! -f "$EXTENSION" ] && rm -f "$DEPLIST"
   wget -cq "$MIRROR"/"$1".dep 2>/dev/null
   wget -cq "$MIRROR"/"$1".md5.txt 2>/dev/null
   wget -c "$MIRROR"/"$1"
   md5sum -c "$1".md5.txt
   if [ "$?" != 0 ]; then
      echo "Error on $EXTENSION"
      abort
   fi
   SCMLOCALE=${1%.scm}-locale.scm
   if [ "$LANG" != "C" ] && [ ! -f $SCMLOCALE ] && wget --spider -q $MIRROR/$SCMLOCALE >/dev/null 2>&1; then
      wget -cq $MIRROR/$SCMLOCALE.md5.txt 2>/dev/null
      wget -c $MIRROR/$SCMLOCALE
      md5sum -c $SCMLOCALE.md5.txt || echo "Error on $SCMLOCALE"
   fi
}

remove(){
   FREEDESKTOPAPP=/usr/local/share/applications/"$APPNAME".desktop
   MENUNAME="$(awk 'BEGIN{FS="="}{if ($1 == "Name") print $2}' "$FREEDESKTOPAPP")"
   
   if [ "$LANG" != "C" ] && [ -d /apps/$APPNAME-locale ]; then
      sudo umount -d /apps/$APPNAME-locale
      sudo rmdir /apps/$APPNAME-locale
   fi

   # Remove menu item
   read DESKTOP < /etc/sysconfig/desktop
   [ $(which "$DESKTOP"_rmitem) ] && "$DESKTOP"_rmitem "$APPNAME"
   [ $(which "$DESKTOP"_rmitem) ] && "$DESKTOP"_rmitem "$MENUNAME"
   [ $(which "$DESKTOP"_restart) ] && "$DESKTOP"_restart
   
   # Remove icon
   if [ -n "$ICONS" ]; then
      ICONSPEC="$(awk 'BEGIN{FS="="}{if ($1 == "X-FullPathIcon") print $2}' "$FREEDESKTOPAPP")"
      [ -n "$ICONSPEC" ] && "$ICONS"_rm_icon "$MENUNAME" && "$ICONS".sh &
   fi

   for I in `find /apps/bin`; do
          readlink "$I" | grep "/apps/$APPNAME/bin" > /dev/null 2>&1 && sudo rm "$I"
        done
        for I in `find /usr/local/share/applications`; do
          readlink "$I" | grep "/apps/$APPNAME/share/applications" > /dev/null 2>&1 && sudo rm "$I"
        done
   for I in `find /usr/local/share/pixmaps`; do
          readlink "$I" | grep "/apps/$APPNAME/share/pixmaps" > /dev/null 2>&1 && sudo rm "$I"
        done   
   sudo umount -d /apps/"$APPNAME"
   sudo rmdir /apps/"$APPNAME"
}

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