Thinking of using Tiny Core; advice please?

[Rich]

Hi JunkYard
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tce-loadand it will list what those options do.

[JunkYard]

I have managed to get hold of another 512MB of ram and running FF browser in TC OS on this login. Even 1GB ram still very slow! liked the speed of Dillo much quicker but dose not work! Think I should write to them

PS A while ago I remember there being a text based only (white onto black) Web Browser that was something to do with tiny core. "Joes something something 1989 "rings a bell!

[Juanito]

Lynx?

[JunkYard]

Lynx?

Yes Yes thats the one! will go into the program store (like you surgested before) and see if I can find it

[JunkYard]

i have typed dillo into the terminal and it is no longer there but says it is installed
with out knowing how to copy and paste the terminal text there is not more i can say really. only is this firefox browser is no good. and tce-load -wi/wil libreoffice dont work either

[CNK]

You installed dillo but didn't set the extension to load at start-up, so you need to do "tce-load -i dillo" before it will run again. Installing programs "ondemand" might be better for your usage using "tce-load -wo", or use the GUI as is described the book (which I can't believe you really read).

I find Firefox runs OK with 2GB RAM, but after tweaking lots of settings to optimise it. 1GB might still be tight. YouTube isn't going to happen - it needs much more. Try front-end websites like Invidious or GenYT to download video files you can watch with a video player program like VLC.

Dillo doesn't support Javascript, which Google requires now as well as YouTube. Still, I use it for most of my web browsing. You can click on the manifying glass icon next to the URL bar to open the search window where you can enter a search query which is loaded from Duck Duck Go.

Unfortunately the Tiny Core forum webmaster has turned off using the PHPSESSID string so you need to enable cookies in Dillo which are disabled by default. You do this by creating a file containing "forum.tinycorelinux.net ACCEPT_SESSION" at "~/.dillo/cookiesrc". That's sure to give you horrors though, so yes pick another web browser. I suggested Seamonkey before since it's closest to the capabilities of Firefox, though I don't use it myself. Netsurf might be better for performance while still being a bit more user-friendly than Dillo.

Repeat: Playing YouTube videos on the main YouTube website isn't going to work well or at all on your PC unless you download them using another website (or yt-dlp in the terminal, but I guess you won't like that). If that's what you want it for then I'd give up now. Libreoffice might be the same, I use Ted but I don't think you'll like that, Abiword might be a better option.

[JunkYard]

Try this browser, it uses less memory

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tce-load -wil dillo

I managed to download and open it. bit its not quite right!

1. it wont go to google.com, says there are no java scrips

2. wont let me sign into this forum says
An Error Has Occurred!
Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again.

3. Youtube.com is just a blank page with a few lines on it

I have written to the owners of "Dillo" web browser from there email address on there web page requesting Java Scrips. However the email address of "dillo-dev-owner@mailman3.com" has been RTS. for reasons stated below

Your message to the Dillo-dev mailing-list was rejected for the following
reasons:

The message is not from a list member

The original message as received by Mailman is attached.

In view of the fact that the "dillo" typed terminal (see my other post) has now vanished off of the eithernet. And they are not responding to my email and the web browser program did not work right anyway. It is of my opinion that this program is obsolete and abandoned! therefore i would respectfully request that the owners of this forum and hence the creators of this O.S contact the owners of Dillo them self, and if no reply then I would request that they remove the program from the data base completly to save up on wasted spam

[JunkYard]

You installed dillo but didn't set the extension to load at start-up, so you need to do "tce-load -i dillo" before it will run again. Installing programs "ondemand" might be better for your usage using "tce-load -wo", or use the GUI as is described the book (which I can't believe you really read).

OK so I did that and then some stuff that I dont know how to copy and paste appeared. I then typed "dillo" and the program appeared on the desk top. Must i do this ever time? I mean 2 commands,? should it not bring up an icon up on the desck top for me to be able to load the program?

[JunkYard]

Unfortunately the Tiny Core forum webmaster has turned off using the PHPSESSID string so you need to enable cookies in Dillo which are disabled by default. You do this by creating a file containing "forum.tinycorelinux.net ACCEPT_SESSION" at "~/.dillo/cookiesrc". That's sure to give you horrors though, so yes pick another web browser. I suggested Seamonkey before since it's closest to the capabilities of Firefox, though I don't use it myself. Netsurf might be better for performance while still being a bit more user-friendly than Dillo..

but even still with cookies on, i wont be able to access google or youtube with out the java scrips rights?

[JunkYard]

Repeat: Playing YouTube videos on the main YouTube website isn't going to work well or at all on your PC unless you download them using another website (or yt-dlp in the terminal, but I guess you won't like that). If that's what you want it for then I'd give up now. Libreoffice might be the same, I use Ted but I don't think you'll like that, Abiword might be a better option.

i have used libreoffice for quite some years now. not the best of programs but you get what you pay for

[JunkYard]

Lynx?

can it be downloaded and installed?

[JunkYard]

I find Firefox runs OK with 2GB RAM, but after tweaking lots of settings to optimise it. 1GB might still be tight. YouTube isn't going to happen - it needs much more. Try front-end websites like Invidious or GenYT to download video files you can watch with a video player program like VLC.

Repeat: Playing YouTube videos on the main YouTube website isn't going to work well or at all on your PC unless you download them using another website (or yt-dlp in the terminal, but I guess you won't like that). If that's what you want it for then I'd give up now. Libreoffice might be the same, I use Ted but I don't think you'll like that, Abiword might be a better option.

I found another 512KB of ram and put it in. youtube and this browser FF works but it is bad. and not worth presuing in the long run IMHO. However there is no sound from the sound card in YT, i though linux was all plug and play

BTW I have other windows xp browsers that are working better then this one on the other side of the tape

[CNK]

but even still with cookies on, i wont be able to access google or youtube with out the java scrips rights?

Correct, and like I say if you want to use the YouTube website I think it's a lost cause on your PC. Dillo recently made a new release, but simply doesn't intend to support Javascript. Dillo users like me happy without it, and avoiding websites that require it. Seamonkey does support Javascript, probably still not YouTube though. Maybe some of Google, I don't know (I use Duck Duck Go in Dillo like I described).
 

Must i do this ever time? I mean 2 commands,? should it not bring up an icon up on the desck top for me to be able to load the program?

You can have it load automatically if you add it to onboot.lst (this is automatic if it was installed with "tce-load -wi dillo" or the default "OnBoot" option in the Apps GUI):

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echo dillo.tcz >> /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst

Then you get an icon on the apps bar at the bottom and an option in the menu.

Or if you install in OnDemand ("tce-load -wo") mode you get an "OnDemand" menu option for starting it without increasing boot-up time. Eg. for seamonkey:

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tce-load -wo seamonkey


However there is no sound from the sound card in YT, i though linux was all plug and play

As people keep trying to tell you, Tiny Core isn't designed to be as "plug and play" as other Linux distros. You're expected to set up things like sound yourself.

BTW I have other windows xp browsers that are working better then this one on the other side of the tape

Firefox on Windows XP will be an older version with lower system requirements since newer versions don't support XP anymore. Seamonkey's performance might be more like that since it's based on old Firefox code.