Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => TCB Q&A Forum => Topic started by: ejames82 on May 30, 2010, 12:04:49 AM
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i am trying to install tinycore to a hard drive.
i partitioned with gparted, and went through the commands without a problem.
once i get to this command:
cp -p /mnt/hdc/boot/* /mnt/hda1/boot/
it locks up. it has done this twice.
any ideas about what i could be doing wrong?
is there any other workaround or diagnosis that can be done?
i'm just a newbie.
thanks.
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Are you sure that your command is suitable for the devices on your system? I assume you have the CD-ROM (i.e. '/dev/hdc') and your freshly prepared hard disk partition (i.e. '/dev/hda1') properly mounted (to 'mnt/hdc' and 'mnt/hda1' respectively).
Nevertheless to start with troubleshooting here are a couple of commands. If you would provide us with the respective results, we might be able to help:
mount | grep mnt
grep mnt /etc/fstab
fdisk -l
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Or you could try
df -a
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maro and batnas,
i left the computer on overnight on the slim chance that this morning the files would be copied over, and the computer would no longer be locked up. i was unlucky. it was still locked up.
i guess what i am going to have to do is start over. i have no other choice but to hard kill, that i can think of.
the "sudo fdisk -l" command i don't think will help much. it just verifies the partitions, size, file types, bootable flag, the names of the partitions, (did i leave anything out) and that everything on the hard drive looks like it should. i'm reasonably experienced at using gparted now. i don't think any mistake has been made by me with gparted.
for verification purposes, i will gladly get you this info, but i am 99% certain that the fault won't be found there.
i don't think there is any internet connection by the tiny core live environment, so every type of info transfer has to be done in a primitive way. basically i am looking at taking digital pictures with my camera and hosting them on imageshack. i doubt i would be able to post the pics here as attachments. this will take time.
i am not sure when to run the commands either, i will run them right before the "copy" command where the lockup occurs.
another idea i just had is to try another hard drive.
thanks for the replies. i'll be back.
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well,
All our commands tell you your mounted devices...
tun it before the copy
Are there any problems with the hdd?
try dmesg
\\Batnas
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batnas,
according to seatools, the hard drive checks out perfect. for the most part, that means the hard drive is good.
that doesn't mean there couldn't still be errors, there could be. all there needs to be is one error at that critical place and possibly hurt the whole operation.
my reason for considering trying another hard drive is to determine if it couldn't be a hardware issue with the computer itself. if another, or possibly a third, hard drive does the same lockup at the same place, strongly suggests that the computer is the problem.
thanks.
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Are you sure it's not the cd drive?
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i can't be 100% sure, but it's installed several distros and performed quite reliably i really don't think the cd drive is at fault.
i am getting the pictures processed as we speak (mentioned earlier).
thanks.
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i just got another idea.
would this live environment detect a flash drive, and does it include some kind of notepad app?
i could copy and paste the output from the terminal and put it on flash drive.
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I think it will detect a flashdrive or at least an USB pen.
Check the appbrowser. I know there are geany and beaver2
\\Batnas
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here's the pics.
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1728/img0317dg.jpg
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7155/img0318i.jpg
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2473/img0319wj.jpg
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5048/img0320m.jpg
at this point, i have not ran the command "cp -p /mnt/hdc/boot/* /mnt/hda1/boot/"
that's next.
also, i did not run the "dmesg" command for the pics because the output is more than i could take pics of. the battery is running low on the camera and i had to decide which pics to get first. is there any part of the "dmesg" output that is crucial to get?
thanks for the replies.
batnas,
i just noticed your reply. i will try that because it appears the photos are not very good. we'll see how it goes.
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i was unable to figure out how to get a flash drive to do me any good. i don't know how to access it.
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If you use a USB stick, you should be able to mount it like the hda...
most likely:
sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
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batnas,
sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1
terminal: file already exists
sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1
terminal: device or resource busy
i think it's all ready for me to use. i just don't know how. i already have it plugged in.
i'll see if i can't access the app you spoke about earlier. maybe that can shed some light on the subject.
thanks.
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If the USB-pen is already mounted you can save files like every other folder...
Geany and beaver are texteditors .
\\Batnas
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i tried to get leafpad, because i'm used to it. it worked.
i tried to get beaver2. it also worked. no problem getting the apps.
that appbrowser works great! i'm impressed. nice job with that, guys.
there's also more good news. i did a "sudo fdisk -l" and saw that the flash drive sda1 is indeed listed.
sorry i am taking so long to make headway here. ideas are coming to me in bits and pieces.
thanks.
i have another idea. i'll check back.
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i have the terminal information.
to recap:
these are the commands suggested to me, to run just before i entered the command "cp -p /mnt/hdc/boot/* /mnt/hda1/boot/" that locks up my computer.
i hope this great deal of info doesn't get the mods upset at me.
thanks everybody.
tc@box:~$ sudo mount | grep mnt
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=ordered)
/dev/hdc on /mnt/hdc type iso9660 (ro)
/dev/sda1 on /mnt/sda1 type vfat (rw,fmask=0000,dmask=0000,allow_utime=0022,code page=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1)
tc@box:~$ sudo grep mnt /etc/fstab
/dev/fd0 /mnt/fd0 auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 ext3 noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3 ext3 noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hdc /mnt/hdc auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hdd /mnt/hdd auto noauto,users,exec 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0 # Added by TC
tc@box:~$ sudo df -a
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 462428 24624 437804 5% /
proc 0 0 0 0% /proc
sysfs 0 0 0 0% /sys
devpts 0 0 0 0% /dev/pts
tmpfs 256904 0 256904 0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 101086 5665 90202 6% /mnt/hda1
/dev/hdc 10368 10368 0 100% /mnt/hdc
/dev/sda1 7837760 854688 6983072 11% /mnt/sda1
/dev/loop0 140 140 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/Xlibs_suppor t
/dev/loop1 680 680 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/libxml2
/dev/loop2 1016 1016 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/glib2
/dev/loop3 416 416 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pango
/dev/loop4 772 772 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/graphics-lib s-1
/dev/loop5 76 76 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/expat2
/dev/loop6 132 132 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/fontconfig
/dev/loop7 196 196 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/pixman
/dev/loop8 268 268 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/cairo
/dev/loop9 52 52 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/atk
/dev/loop10 3108 3108 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/gtk2
/dev/loop11 360 360 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/ttf-bitstrea m-vera
/dev/loop12 56 56 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/leafpad
/dev/loop13 84 84 0 100% /tmp/tcloop/beaver2
tc@box:~$ sudo dmesg
Linux version 2.6.29.1-tinycore (root@box) (gcc version 4.2.2) #1337 SMP Fri Apr 10 19:12:39 EEST 2009
KERNEL supported cpus:
Intel GenuineIntel
AMD AuthenticAMD
NSC Geode by NSC
Cyrix CyrixInstead
Centaur CentaurHauls
Transmeta GenuineTMx86
Transmeta TransmetaCPU
UMC UMC UMC UMC
PAT WC disabled due to known CPU erratum.
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009f800 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009f800 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000c8000 - 00000000000d0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 000000001fcf0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fcf0000 - 000000001fcfc000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fcfc000 - 000000001fd00000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fd00000 - 000000001fe80000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000001fe80000 - 0000000020000000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb80000 - 00000000ffc00000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fff00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
DMI 2.3 present.
last_pfn = 0x1fe80 max_arch_pfn = 0x100000
kernel direct mapping tables up to 1fe80000 @ 7000-c000
RAMDISK: 1f4f9000 - 1fccebab
ACPI: RSDP 000F6670, 0014 (r0 PTLTD )
ACPI: RSDT 1FCF7082, 0030 (r1 PTLTD RSDT 6040000 LTP 0)
ACPI: FACP 1FCFBF0A, 0074 (r1 INTEL Whitney 6040000 PTL F4240)
FADT: X_PM1a_EVT_BLK.bit_width (16) does not match PM1_EVT_LEN (4)
ACPI: DSDT 1FCF70B2, 4E58 (r1 INTEL Whitney 6040000 MSFT 100000D)
ACPI: FACS 1FCFCFC0, 0040
ACPI: APIC 1FCFBF7E, 005A (r1 PTLTD APIC 6040000 LTP 0)
ACPI: BOOT 1FCFBFD8, 0028 (r1 PTLTD $SBFTBL$ 6040000 LTP 1)
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
0MB HIGHMEM available.
510MB LOWMEM available.
mapped low ram: 0 - 1fe80000
low ram: 00000000 - 1fe80000
bootmap 00002000 - 00005fd0
(9 early reservations) ==> bootmem [0000000000 - 001fe80000]
#0 [0000000000 - 0000001000] BIOS data page ==> [0000000000 - 0000001000]
#1 [0000001000 - 0000002000] EX TRAMPOLINE ==> [0000001000 - 0000002000]
#2 [0000006000 - 0000007000] TRAMPOLINE ==> [0000006000 - 0000007000]
#3 [0000100000 - 0000528674] TEXT DATA BSS ==> [0000100000 - 0000528674]
#4 [001f4f9000 - 001fccebab] RAMDISK ==> [001f4f9000 - 001fccebab]
#5 [0000529000 - 000052c000] INIT_PG_TABLE ==> [0000529000 - 000052c000]
#6 [000009f800 - 0000100000] BIOS reserved ==> [000009f800 - 0000100000]
#7 [0000007000 - 0000008000] PGTABLE ==> [0000007000 - 0000008000]
#8 [0000002000 - 0000006000] BOOTMAP ==> [0000002000 - 0000006000]
Zone PFN ranges:
DMA 0x00000000 -> 0x00001000
Normal 0x00001000 -> 0x0001fe80
HighMem 0x0001fe80 -> 0x0001fe80
Movable zone start PFN for each node
early_node_map[3] active PFN ranges
0: 0x00000000 -> 0x0000009f
0: 0x00000100 -> 0x0001fcf0
0: 0x0001fd00 -> 0x0001fe80
On node 0 totalpages: 130575
free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c0450d80, node_mem_map c1000000
DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
DMA zone: 3967 pages, LIFO batch:0
Normal zone: 989 pages used for memmap
Normal zone: 125587 pages, LIFO batch:31
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] high edge lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x01] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 1, version 32, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 high edge)
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level)
ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
SMP: Allowing 1 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
nr_irqs_gsi: 24
PM: Registered nosave memory: 000000000009f000 - 00000000000a0000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000a0000 - 00000000000c8000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000c8000 - 00000000000d0000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000d0000 - 00000000000e0000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 000000001fcf0000 - 000000001fcfc000
PM: Registered nosave memory: 000000001fcfc000 - 000000001fd00000
Allocating PCI resources starting at 30000000 (gap: 20000000:dfb80000)
NR_CPUS:8 nr_cpumask_bits:8 nr_cpu_ids:1 nr_node_ids:1
PERCPU: Allocating 32768 bytes of per cpu data
Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 129554
Kernel command line: initrd=/boot/tinycore.gz quiet max_loop=256 BOOT_IMAGE=/boo t/bzImage
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes)
Fast TSC calibration using PIT
Detected 1295.750 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
console [tty0] enabled
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 505000k/522752k available (2433k kernel code, 16868k reserved, 1088k dat a, 344k init, 0k highmem)
virtual kernel memory layout:
fixmap : 0xfff50000 - 0xfffff000 ( 700 kB)
pkmap : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000 (4096 kB)
vmalloc : 0xe0680000 - 0xff7fe000 ( 497 MB)
lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xdfe80000 ( 510 MB)
.init : 0xc0477000 - 0xc04cd000 ( 344 kB)
.data : 0xc0360468 - 0xc04707b0 (1088 kB)
.text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc0360468 (2433 kB)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode...Ok.
Calibrating delay loop (skipped), value calculated using timer frequency.. 2592. 47 BogoMIPS (lpj=4319166)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 256K
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 9k freed
ACPI: Core revision 20081204
..TIMER: vector=0x30 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
CPU0: Intel(R) Celeron(TM) CPU 1300MHz stepping 01
Brought up 1 CPUs
Total of 1 processors activated (2592.47 BogoMIPS).
net_namespace: 944 bytes
NET: Registered protocol family 16
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd9a8, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1 for base access
bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0
ACPI: EC: Look up EC in DSDT
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: No dock devices found.
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
pci 0000:00:01.0: reg 10 32bit mmio: [0xf8000000-0xfbffffff]
pci 0000:00:01.0: reg 14 32bit mmio: [0xf4000000-0xf407ffff]
pci 0000:00:1f.0: quirk: region 1000-107f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO
pci 0000:00:1f.0: quirk: region 1180-11bf claimed by ICH4 GPIO
pci 0000:00:1f.1: reg 20 io port: [0x1080-0x108f]
pci 0000:00:1f.2: reg 20 io port: [0x10a0-0x10bf]
pci 0000:00:1f.3: reg 20 io port: [0x1100-0x110f]
pci 0000:00:1f.5: reg 10 io port: [0x1200-0x12ff]
pci 0000:00:1f.5: reg 14 io port: [0x1300-0x133f]
pci 0000:01:06.0: reg 10 io port: [0x2000-0x20ff]
pci 0000:01:06.0: reg 14 32bit mmio: [0xf4100000-0xf41000ff]
pci 0000:01:06.0: supports D1 D2
pci 0000:01:06.0: PME# supported from D1 D2 D3hot D3cold
pci 0000:01:06.0: PME# disabled
pci 0000:01:0b.0: reg 10 32bit mmio: [0xf4100400-0xf41004ff]
pci 0000:01:0b.0: reg 14 io port: [0x2800-0x2807]
pci 0000:01:0b.0: reg 18 io port: [0x2400-0x24ff]
pci 0000:01:0b.0: supports D2
pci 0000:01:0b.0: PME# supported from D2 D3hot D3cold
pci 0000:01:0b.0: PME# disabled
pci 0000:00:1e.0: transparent bridge
pci 0000:00:1e.0: bridge io port: [0x2000-0x2fff]
pci 0000:00:1e.0: bridge 32bit mmio: [0xf4100000-0xf41fffff]
pci_bus 0000:00: on NUMA node 0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB_._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: Power Resource [FN01] (on)
SCSI subsystem initialized
libata version 3.00 loaded.
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
usbcore: registered new device driver usb
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
pnp: PnP ACPI init
ACPI: bus type pnp registered
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 15 devices
ACPI: ACPI bus type pnp unregistered
PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
system 00:01: ioport range 0x1000-0x107f has been reserved
system 00:01: ioport range 0x1180-0x11bf has been reserved
system 00:01: ioport range 0x4d0-0x4d1 has been reserved
system 00:01: ioport range 0x600-0x67f has been reserved
system 00:01: ioport range 0xfe00-0xfe0f has been reserved
system 00:01: iomem range 0xff800000-0xffffffff could not be reserved
system 00:01: iomem range 0xfec00000-0xfec00fff has been reserved
system 00:01: iomem range 0xfee00000-0xfee00fff has been reserved
system 00:02: iomem range 0x0-0x9ffff could not be reserved
system 00:02: iomem range 0xe0000-0xfffff could not be reserved
system 00:02: iomem range 0x100000-0x1fffffff could not be reserved
pci 0000:00:1e.0: PCI bridge, secondary bus 0000:01
pci 0000:00:1e.0: IO window: 0x2000-0x2fff
pci 0000:00:1e.0: MEM window: 0xf4100000-0xf41fffff
pci 0000:00:1e.0: PREFETCH window: disabled
pci 0000:00:1e.0: setting latency timer to 64
pci_bus 0000:00: resource 0 io: [0x00-0xffff]
pci_bus 0000:00: resource 1 mem: [0x000000-0xffffffff]
pci_bus 0000:01: resource 0 io: [0x2000-0x2fff]
pci_bus 0000:01: resource 1 mem: [0xf4100000-0xf41fffff]
pci_bus 0000:01: resource 2 mem: [0x0-0x0]
pci_bus 0000:01: resource 3 io: [0x00-0xffff]
pci_bus 0000:01: resource 4 mem: [0x000000-0xffffffff]
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 16384)
TCP reno registered
NET: Registered protocol family 1
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Switched to high resolution mode on CPU 0
Freeing initrd memory: 8022k freed
Simple Boot Flag at 0x35 set to 0x1
fuse init (API version 7.11)
msgmni has been set to 1002
alg: No test for stdrng (krng)
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler deadline registered (default)
pci 0000:00:01.0: Boot video device
input: Power Button (FF) as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input0
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
input: Power Button (CM) as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/inpu t1
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PWRB]
fan PNP0C0B:00: registered as cooling_device0
ACPI: Fan [FAN1] (on)
ACPI: Invalid PBLK length [5]
processor ACPI_CPU:00: registered as cooling_device1
ACPI Exception (thermal-0377): AE_OK, No or invalid critical threshold [20081204 ]
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12b
Non-volatile memory driver v1.3
Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
brd: module loaded
loop: loaded (max 256 devices)
PPP generic driver version 2.4.2
PPP Deflate Compression module registered
NET: Registered protocol family 24
tun: Universal TUN/TAP device driver, 1.6
tun: (C) 1999-2004 Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
piix 0000:00:1f.1: IDE controller (0x8086:0x2411 rev 0x02)
PIIX_IDE 0000:00:1f.1: power state changed by ACPI to D0
piix 0000:00:1f.1: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x1080-0x1087
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x1088-0x108f
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: QUANTUM FIREBALLlct15 15, ATA DISK drive
hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: UDMA/66 mode selected
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: ATAPI iHAP422 9, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: MEMOREX CD-RW4224, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdc: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hdc: UDMA/66 mode selected
hdd: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hdd: MWDMA2 mode selected
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide_generic: please use "probe_mask=0x3f" module parameter for probing all legac y ISA IDE ports
ide-gd driver 1.18
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 29336832 sectors (15020 MB) w/418KiB Cache, CHS=29104/16/63
hda: cache flushes not supported
hda: hda1 hda2 hda3
ide-cd driver 5.00
ide-cd: hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R/RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
ide-cd: hdd: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1860kB Cache
Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
ehci_hcd: USB 2.0 'Enhanced' Host Controller (EHCI) Driver
ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver
uhci_hcd: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: PCI INT D -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 19
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: setting latency timer to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 19, io base 0x000010a0
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:KBC0,PNP0f13:MSE0] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
cpuidle: using governor ladder
cpuidle: using governor menu
padlock: VIA PadLock not detected.
padlock: VIA PadLock Hash Engine not detected.
usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
ip_tables: (C) 2000-2006 Netfilter Core Team
TCP cubic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 17
NET: Registered protocol family 15
RPC: Registered udp transport module.
RPC: Registered tcp transport module.
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
Freeing unused kernel memory: 344k freed
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/inpu t2
usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-2:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-2:1.0: 4 ports detected
input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input3
intel_rng: FWH not detected
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I don't know where to go now, either :P
Maybe try to copy the files one at a time?
Also, just to be sure: how big is your hdd?
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it's a 15gb. plenty big enough for tinycore.
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it's a 15gb. plenty big enough for tinycore.
Yeah thought so..
How about copying them seperately??
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batnas,
"How about copying them seperately??"
i would be glad to, if i knew how. i guess that command copies both the kernel and the initrd files. copying one at a time would tell specifically which is causing the problem, or that the task or copying both at once is overwhelming. i only know a little about it, not how to modify or implement.
thanks.
by the way, i also tried another hard drive and it locks up at the same place in the same way. this hard drive was only 10gb, but i put ubuntu on 10gb's comfortably numerous times. 10gb is enough for tinycore. this computer has been discriminating without cause. some distros that would not install on any other computer would install on this one, and some distros that install on every other computer, wouldn't on this one. like it has a personality.
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the command
cp /mnt/hdc/boot/* /mnt/hda1/boot/
Copies 2 files:
To copy them seperately you should:
cp /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage /mnt/hda1/boot/
cp /mnt/hdc/boot/tinycore.gz /mnt/hda1/boot/and maybe with 'sudo'
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ejames82: Thanks for providing the output of those commands. When troubleshooting a tend to take a "Never just assume anything, double-check it" kind of approach. Therefore I suggested to provide information that proves that the mounting has worked. In particular since you stated "i'm just a newbie" I wanted to establish this basis. The output you've provided appears to show that there is no problem in that regard.
Now just repeating the same command in the same circumstances will likely lead to the same results. So lets break your problem down into it's various parts. Even though these steps might look primitive I hope it will help you in the end:
- Are the source files readable? You could check this with wc -c /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage. In the case of TC 2.11.2 this should be
1994736 /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage - Can a directory be created on the destination device? So let's try: sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/test ; chown tc:staff /mnt/hda1/test
- Can a file be created on the destination device? So let's try date > /mnt/hda1/test/now ; cat /mnt/hda1/test/now
If this test succeeds as well you could do the "clean-up" with sudo rm -rf /mnt/hda1/test - I believe you have already created the target directory, but let's see if there is anything else on the destination file system: ls -lRA /mnt/hda1. If still needed create the 'boot' directories (again?) with mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/boot/grub
- Can a single file be copied? Let's just try with the kernel: sudo cp -p /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage /mnt/hda1/boot
So how far did you get?
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to be democratic, i'll try batnas's suggestion first. in all honesty, the project was heading in that direction anyway. if batnas hadn't offered the command, i would have asked him what it was. i am interested in knowing what happens if i install those files one at a time.
i hope both of you stick around. your guidance is appreciated by me.
i'll be right back, thanks.
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this command:
cp /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage /mnt/hda1/boot/
is the one that locks it. the other with tinycore.gz works. i tried bzImage first, it locked it. i tried tinycore.gz first, it worked. then bzImage second, locked it. so now we know that the bzImage is locking it.
i appreciate those commands, batnas.
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maro,
i hope i still have you with me. these are the commands that i run as soon as the computer boots into live-cd environment. they are all preceded by sudo, otherwise it won't work. i get no errors during these commands.
rebuildfstab
mount /mnt/hda1
mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/boot/grub
mount /mnt/hdc
i am assuming that you want this command
wc -c /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage
after the fourth command listed above. i'll assume that unless you post otherwise.
i'll run the command and see if i can't get that output copied and pasted from the termanal.
thanks.
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maro,
i ran the first four commands then ran the command suggested by you
wc -c /mnt/hdc/boot/bzImage
it locked up.
does this verify that it is not readable. that's strange because i am really fussy now and verify the hash every time before i burn the iso.
i'll go back and look at your last post again. even though this isn't working, i think it's very interesting.
thanks.
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hi
I am a TC newbie so feel free to ignore my suggestions.
1) Your have an fstab showing /dev/hdd....and a dmesg output that shows its an optical drive.... why not try booting that one...and then retrying your copy command but mounting hdd?
So where in the install page it says
mount /mnt/hdc....replace hdc with hdd please
(That might resolve the earlier question on whether its your optical drive playing up)
2) I don't discount a bad burn.....but if your tinycore.gz successfully copied over why not try using the apps icon to install a web browser (in live mode)....arora is small and useful.....and then grab the bzImage off the web?
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/2.x/release/distribution_files/bzImage
Download that to your (live) /home/tc folder and then use
sudo su
mount /mnt/hda1
cp /home/tc/bzImage /mnt/hda1/boot
3) Maybe you could burn another small distro such as the alpha release and see if you get the same error on bzImage?
4) Assuming they are IDE optical drives....if you know how to discharge static electricity from yourself...using a wrist strap or touching the PSU with the back of your hand....try pushing in the power connectors and data cable to both ends ....meaning the motherboard and the optical drive.....in case your computer cables have just come a bit loose over time?
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maro,
here is the terminal output from the commands that you suggested that i run. being a newbie i wouldn't know what it all means.
tc@box:~$ sudo fdisk -l
Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10005037056 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1216 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 13 104391 83 Linux
/dev/hda2 14 140 1020127+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 141 1216 8642970 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sda: 8036 MB, 8036285952 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 977 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 976 7839698 b Win95 FAT32
tc@box:~$ sudo rebuildfstab
tc@box:~$ sudo mount /mnt/hda1
tc@box:~$ sudo mkdir -p /mnt/hda1/boot/grub
tc@box:~$ sudo mount /mnt/hdc
tc@box:~$ sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/test ; chown tc:staff /mnt/hda1/test
chown: /mnt/hda1/test: Operation not permitted
tc@box:~$ sudo date > /mnt/hda1/test/now ; cat /mnt/hda1/test/now
sh: can't create /mnt/hda1/test/now: Permission denied
cat: can't open '/mnt/hda1/test/now': No such file or directory
tc@box:~$ sudo rm -rf /mnt/hda1/test
tc@box:~$ sudo ls -lRA /mnt/hda1
/mnt/hda1:
total 13
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1024 May 30 23:01 boot
drwx------ 2 root root 12288 May 30 19:05 lost+found
/mnt/hda1/boot:
total 8057
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 May 30 23:01 bzImage
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1024 May 30 20:20 grub
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 8215467 May 30 23:00 tinycore.gz
/mnt/hda1/boot/grub:
total 0
/mnt/hda1/lost+found:
total 0
tc@box:~$
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aus9,
"I am a TC newbie so feel free to ignore my suggestions."
i don't pass judgement on those grounds.
"1) Your have an fstab showing /dev/hdd....and a dmesg output that shows its an optical drive.... why not try booting that one...and then retrying your copy command but mounting hdd?"
is that somewhere in the same reply as the dmesg command (either 15 or 16)? in either case, i think i understand what you are trying to say. run all hdc commands with hdd instead. maybe i have my cd/dvd decks mixed up. it seems like when i copied the files, at the very least, i would have got an error message. but hey, what can it hurt? i'll try it, but i don't think i have them mixed up. i would be GLAD to admit i'm wrong.
i really appreciate the suggestion about the browser and the link. i must admit that task sounds tough, but like everything else i've done so far, i'll give it my best shot. maybe i can pull it off.
all your suggestions are good and worthy. i already checked the cable (the side panel is already off).
thanks.
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aus9,
it's only been minutes since my last post. just wanted to pop in real quick and say the browser suggestion was excellent. the arora browser is fine. i like it. another nice job by the development folks as well.
thanks. i'll check out the rest of your info.
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i actually put the bzImage file on a flash drive as suggested by aus9. if anyone would be so kind to provide me with the command to copy over i would be most grateful. i think the flash drive will show as sda1 and the file will be bzImage.
anyway, i think i am going to get this, unless the computer locks up during the copying process.
thanks to everybody.
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To summarize what you have meanwhile reported: The destination device seems fine (i.e. at least WRT mounting and creation of files and directories), but the kernel file (i.e. 'bzImage') can't be read form the "first" CD-ROM drive.
You have now several options as suggested by aus9. It's hard to say which one is better (but I would first get rid of the zero length kernel file on the hard disk with sudo rm -f /mnt/hda1/boot/bzImage):
- Use the other CD-ROM drive (replacing 'hdd' for 'hdc' in the 'mount' and 'cp' commands), or
- Download the file directly with
sudo wget -P /mnt/hda1/boot http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/2.x/release/distribution_files/bzImage
(I don't see the need to use a browser and copying of files from one place to another if you can do it with a single command)
After this has hopefully worked continue with the steps of installing GRUB onto the hard disk. Don't forget that you'll need to download that extension (e.g. via tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash or the use of the now familiar 'Apps' GUI front end).
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Note that you can check a cd's md5sum after burn, too:
md5sum /dev/hdc
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maro,
"To summarize what you have meanwhile reported: The destination device seems fine"
this hard drive was tested with seatools. another functional drive was tried too, the lockup occured exactly the same way on both drives during the copying of the bzImage and tinycore.gz files. it was later narrowed down to the bzImage that was causing the lockup.
"but the kernel file (i.e. 'bzImage') can't be read form the "first" CD-ROM drive.".
with all that has been going on i failed to mention that the memorex 4224 drive doesn't work properly. some times it will play a disk, but has never worked to boot or install an OS. it is listed as hdd in the dmesg output. i don't know why that cd drive doesn't work. i've tried using it numerous times. my consideration of changing hdc to hdd as per aus9's suggestion was just hoping for a strange fluke or an oversight by me. the iHAP422 is the cd drive running the live tinycore disk and has been doing all the work. it is listed in the dmesg as hdc. to say that the bzImage couldn't be read may be true. all i know is the computer locks up when trying to copy the files from there.
"I would first get rid of the zero length kernel file on the hard disk with sudo rm -f /mnt/hda1/boot/bzImage):"
i did it. no error message.
"Download the file directly with
sudo wget -P /mnt/hda1/boot http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/2.x/release/distribution_files/bzImage"
no error message doing this either. it looks like i have the files that have been causing the lockup.
"After this has hopefully worked continue with the steps of installing GRUB onto the hard disk. Don't forget that you'll need to download that extension"
what is "that extension"? i can't recall any extension ever being mentioned. i did continue with the instructions on the installation page, figuring this would be covered. please explain this more.
"(e.g. via tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash"
do i need to run this command? i was not sure.
"or the use of the now familiar 'Apps' GUI front end)."
to do what? what am i going there to get? by the way, this is a great program.
as i stated, i did continue with the instructions on the installations page.
i had a problem with this command:
tc@box:~$ sudo cp -p /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
cp: can't stat '/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/*': No such file or directory
thanks.
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curaga,
i didn't think that the md5sum could be verified after the burn. i read a thread somewhere that the hash changes because of the burn.
this is certainly good news. i made numerous disks before i knew how to verify (or cared) and didn't think they could be verified. now i can go back and check them.
thanks.
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"(e.g. via tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash"
do i need to run this command? i was not sure.
Yes - this will download the grub bootloader extension - or you could use the 'Apps' GUI front end to do the same thing.
$ sudo cp -p /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
cp: can't stat '/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/*': No such file or directory
This error happens because the grub-0.97-splash extension is not loaded
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juanito,
so i need to run this command:
tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash
then run this command:
sudo cp -p /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
i'm doing it right away.
thanks.
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that went nicely.
tc@box:~$ sudo tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash
Don't run this as root.
tc@box:~$ tce-load -wi grub-0.97-splash
Downloading: grub-0.97-splash.tcz
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org (152.46.7.109:80)
grub-0.97-splash.tcz 100% |*******************************| 272k --:--:-- ETA
grub-0.97-splash.tcz: OK
tc@box:~$ sudo cp -p /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
thanks. now i will get back to the installation page.
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i made no headway at all. this is where i am in the instructions:
"vi /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst
Presss i (enters insert mode)
Enter the following:
default 0
timeout 10
title tinycore
kernel /boot/bzImage quiet
initrd /boot/tinycore.gz
If unsure, copy and paste the above. Note there's a capital i in bzImage.
Optionally, add other bootcodes now on the kernel line separated by spaces. Note: If you are using a pendrive or other Flash device, be sure to add the boot code of waitusb=5
Press <esc> when done. Enter :x (saves and quits)"
my first problem is i don't know how to make a screenshot. there is a screenshot utility in the right-click menu, but after clicking it, nothing happens. i downloaded and installed xfce screenshooter from appbrowser, but can't find a way to make it work either. nothing will pop up from any screenshot utility. i have no way to show you what's happening.
i entered this command:
vi /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst
a new screen pops up with a big empty box. the command sits at the bottom of the box.
i press "i" and the cursor bounces down a line, leaving an empty line at the top.
i am able to paste in this info:
default 0
timeout 10
title tinycore
kernel /boot/bzImage quiet
initrd /boot/tinycore.gz
at this point, i am hoping that everything is proper, but i am unable to save and exit. the instructions say this:
Press <esc> when done. Enter :x (saves and quits)
when i hit esc, nothing happens. maybe nothing is supposed to happen. the last part:
Enter :x (saves and quits)
i don't really know what to do here. i tried every possible combination imagineable but nothing worked. i have used text editors before, and this looked like nothing i've ever seen.
is there any trick to getting a screenshot to work?
thanks.
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"vi /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst
Presss i (enters insert mode)
I never tried entering "i" with vi before, but if you hit the <insert> key, it will allow you to edit the file. Once you've finished editing, hitting the <esc> key and typing ":wq" (without the "quotes" as in :=command mode, w=write, q=quit) and then hitting the <enter> key will save the file and exit vi.
my first problem is i don't know how to make a screenshot. there is a screenshot utility in the right-click menu, but after clicking it, nothing happens.
Whilst nothing might appear to happen, an image file looking something like /home/tc/screenshot_0531212244.png is written - you can edit it using the gimp1 extension or similar.
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If the above doen'st help either, you can install leafpad, and edit the
/mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst
Explanation:
The step you are at will guide you through writing af gile in plain-text, and can be done with every texteditor you like e.g. leafpad
The use of 'vi' is maybe for people trying to install microcore. It does not have any GUI tools
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juanito,
i feel cautiously optimistic that i successfully edited
vi /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/menu.lst
i also did learn something about the screenshots i have been taking (i've been taking screenshots). i located them in the terminal in tc/home directory. apparently i took a whole bunch of them, thinking i wasn't. i deleted them now because they would be in the way.
i still don't know how to open them. i did install the gimp1 program.
you build just about everything in the appbrowser program, it looks like. appbrowser works great. as good as ubuntu's package manager.
the main reason i need the screenshot utility is to post my screenshot on this thread. when i click on the (new) gimp icon, nothing happens.
thanks.
batnas,
good to see you today, and thanks for all the help yesterday.
the leafpad utility works great, but i just don't see how it would actually be used.
i did try the command you provided. the reply was:
command not found
thanks for both replies.
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Youre welcome! :D
The line I posted wasn't a command, it is the path to the menu-file, the one you succedded editing using vi. My idea was to edit it using leafpad, but using vi is also good ;)
\\Batnas
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batnas,
leafpad is more "my type of tool". it will be a while before i'm proficient at using vi. it just felt odd. also, i have edited the menu.lst file on ubuntu before. this menu.lst had no resemblance.
"it is the path to the menu-file, the one you succedded editing using vi"
that's some wishful thinking. and i'm not kidding.
this is what i have when i command "sudo grub"
GNU GRUB version 0.97 (640K lower / 3072K upper memory)
[ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For
the first word, TAB lists possible command
completions. Anywhere else TAB lists the possible
completions of a device/filename. ]
grub>
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that's some wishful thinking. and i'm not kidding.
I'm sorry ???
And for the grub thing, you just have to follow the install guide.
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the guide says this is next:
"In the grub prompt,
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
quit"
do i add these commands one at a time?
root (hd0,0)
then:
setup (hd0)
then:
quit
is there a special way of "quitting"?
or, do i put all three commands in at one time, like this:
root (hd0,0)
setup (hd0)
quit
thanks again.
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i am about ready to try it to see if it works.
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IT WORKS!
it shut down completely, boots up nice and quick, no jittering of the mouse, goes to websites quick, it's real nice.
while it's fresh on my mind, i think i'll put it on a second hard drive. i promise not to bother anybody though. if it doesn't work i'll just be happy with one hard drive.
thanks so much to everybody.
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i was also able to install it on a 40gb hard drive. this time, relatively quickly.
works good.
thanks again everybody.
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hi
thanks for the explanation of your issues with hdd and hdc.
Are they wide ribbon = IDE drives?
If so, it may not be the drive at all.........swap the wide ribbon data cables.....when they get bent....their internal wires get broke.
You may be able to find new ones at computer stores.....but for now just swap the cables and see if your nasty optical drive now changes its spots to hdc?
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aus9,
tomorrow i will switch that ribbon cable with another. i have an abundance of parts. the cdrom deck that doesn't work properly is on the end of the ribbon cable. if these were hard drives, it would be moster. if i want to view the contents of a disk, it works just fine, but does not boot a disk or install to one. that would suggest a data problem. power cutting out doesn't seem as likely. yeah, it's IDE.
i appreciate your help and suggestions. donj't ever think that just because you're a newbie that your ideas aren't valueable. i know for certain that they are.
thanks.
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i did install the gimp1 program.
you build just about everything in the appbrowser program, it looks like. appbrowser works great. as good as ubuntu's package manager.
the main reason i need the screenshot utility is to post my screenshot on this thread. when i click on the (new) gimp icon, nothing happens.
You could try entering "gimp" (without the "quotes") in a terminal window and then hitting the <enter> key - this will usually show some kind of error message that will help figure out why it doesn't work.
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hi
Yeah well it could be both the ribbon and the power....but power is more likely an issue with your PSU is failing and you "should" have more frequent and more "bells" ways of being alarmed on that issue.
There could still be an issue with the power connector, of course. But that means you should before changing ribbons....swap the power leads and see if issue swaps to hdc.
2) there are sites where you show all your hardware and it says what is the min watt PSU you need.
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
feel free to google for other sites if you don't trust this one
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Juanito,
since i installed tinycore to the new hard drive, i installed gimp1 again, and this time there is no problem at all. the gui interface came right up. should i ever have a problem with gimp1 again, i will keep your suggestion in mind. i'll bet that same fix works on other programs as well (of course, the name would be different).
aus9,
when i do a computer task, often i take the long way. to make a long story short, i removed the front piece, the floppy/hard drive carriage, and the two decks and discovered the cd deck was jumpered as slave (the one that wouldn't boot a disk or install an OS and was at the end of the ribbon cable). it makes me wonder if i ever really did successfully play any disks with it, how could i? it doesn't seem like it would work.
i have too many computers. :) maybe i have it mistaken for a different computer.
even after trying every possible jumper configuration, that memorex still wouldn't boot to disk or install. i immediately got an error message (error 16). it was indeed defective. it was a "general purpose" computer at a not-for-profit agency. young people abused this computer and it was badly infected when it was given to my wife. i cleaned the infections, took the hard drive out, and now it's a linux machine.
i hunted down another cd drive and now it's 100%. your suggestion caused me to look the machine over.
thanks for both replies.
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Slave is slave. Cable position does not matter.
Any IDE device jumpered as 'Slave' should also have a 'Master' on the same cable.
I have seen masterless slave devices work, but they don't always.
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thanks Gerald for reminding me.....
According to my eyesight you had
controller 0
master--- quantum fireball hard drive (hda)
slave empty
controller 1
master---ATAPI iHAP422 9 (hdc)
slave ----MEMOREX cd burner (hdd)
It looks like IMHO your jumper on hdc was wrong as no info was being obtained by demeg while it was able to report
ide-cd: hdd: ATAPI 24X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 1860kB Cache
So I am claiming your hdc is to be made master
and as Gerald has suggested a masterless optical drive.....can fail without its master.
So decide which is your fastest burner....jumper that as master and the other as slave.
But if you need to do a lot of copying from drive to drive...keep the fastest best(est) burner as master hdc and move the slave onto the same cable as the hard drive
If you can not see jumper position...try google for that brand...whatever it is
I have seen some that do not need any jumper if its master with no slave
so if all else fails....you know hdd is a slave so move it controller 0 and then maybe hdc will work?
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gerald_clark,
"I have seen masterless slave devices work, but they don't always"
i'm glad to hear that, because i'm pretty sure that deck worked for general purpose use. not for booting or installing an os though.
aus9,
"So I am claiming your hdc is to be made master"
it is now. the iHAP422 is master. as i stated before (i should have been more clear) it's working 100% (the whole computer). i replaced the memorex with an hp that i thought had problems, but was mistaken. it turns out the hp is fine. boots and installs from either deck. ;D
thanks for both replies.