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Title: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 06, 2022, 07:38:28 AM: My laptop touchpad is not working. I am using Tinycorelinux 13.0 on a UEFI only 64-bit laptop booted from USB.

xinput --list shows two entries- "Intel HID events" and "Intel HID 5 button array" which I feel are related to the touchpad. I enabled both of them using xinput --enable deviceID.

From other related posts on the forum, I installed Xorg-7.7, hidapi, libinput, xf86-input-libinput, libevdev and python3.7. I am attaching both xinput --list and extensions screenshot.

I also tried installing xf86-input-synaptics from https://tinycorelinux.net/12.x/x86/tcz/xf86-input-synaptics. That did not help. Plus, that appears to be a 32-bit extension. I couldnt find it in the 64-bit repo.

Kindly suggest how I can activate the touchpad.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 06, 2022, 07:45:49 AM: The xf86-input-libinput driver loaded by Xorg-7.7 should work with your touchpad - the xf86-input-synaptics driver from 12.x will not work in 13.x due to the update to xorg-server.

Did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if your touchpad is recognised?
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 06, 2022, 10:02:36 PM: I uninstalled xf86-input-synaptics (12.x).

The xf86-input-libinput driver is already installed. However, the touchpad does not work. Does any other command need to be used to activate the touchpad ?

I checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Its a longish file with lot of detail. However, I am attaching an extract from the Xorg.0.log which appears towards the end appears to be related to the touchpad. From the log entries, I feel the touchpad is recognized.

Pl see and confirm.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 06, 2022, 11:29:00 PM: Hi tcl_user5
Run the following command:
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lsmod > lsmod.txtOpen the file lsmod.txt and paste the contents between code tags. Click the button with the # symbol on it for
code tags.

Run this command:
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dmesg > dmesg.txtInclude the dmesg.txt file as an attachment.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: nick65go on March 07, 2022, 09:07:26 AM: Quote from: Juanito on March 06, 2022, 07:45:49 AM
The xf86-input-libinput driver loaded by Xorg-7.7 should work with your touchpad - the xf86-input-synaptics driver from 12.x will not work in 13.x due to the update to xorg-server.
FYI: maybe will help other users, because Synaptics driver is missing in TC13.
I had a great success, on TC13_64, using xf86-input-synaptics.tcz (from TC12_64), for my laptop, even if my "Synaptic" touch-pad is basically a click-pad (no visible detached buttons). In my case, now I can have BOTH vertical scroll (two-fingers AND right-edge), instead of only each of them configurable at one time.
PS: do not forget to look inside 70-synaptics.conf to change the MatchInputDriver options etc.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 07, 2022, 11:29:07 AM: Pl find lsmod.txt below.
dmesg.txt attached.

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Module Size Used by Not tainted cpufreq_userspace 12288 0 cpufreq_conservative 12288 0 cpufreq_powersave 12288 0 snd_hda_codec_hdmi 36864 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek 94208 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 45056 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek i915 1380352 13 btusb 36864 0 btrtl 12288 1 btusb btintel 24576 1 btusb btbcm 12288 1 btusb drm_kms_helper 126976 1 i915 bluetooth 249856 5 btusb,btrtl,btintel,btbcm intel_gtt 16384 1 i915 rtl8xxxu 81920 0 cec 32768 2 i915,drm_kms_helper i2c_i801 20480 0 i2c_smbus 12288 1 i2c_i801 mac80211 311296 1 rtl8xxxu snd_usb_audio 192512 0 ttm 36864 1 i915 snd_hda_intel 28672 0 ecdh_generic 12288 1 bluetooth drm 303104 9 i915,drm_kms_helper,ttm snd_usbmidi_lib 20480 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi 20480 1 snd_usbmidi_lib ecc 20480 1 ecdh_generic snd_hda_codec 65536 4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel cfg80211 225280 2 rtl8xxxu,mac80211 snd_hda_core 36864 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_seq_device 12288 1 snd_rawmidi snd_pcm 65536 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core snd_hwdep 12288 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 24576 1 snd_pcm uvcvideo 69632 0 videobuf2_v4l2 16384 1 uvcvideo videobuf2_vmalloc 12288 1 uvcvideo videobuf2_memops 12288 1 videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_common 36864 4 uvcvideo,videobuf2_v4l2,videobuf2_vmalloc,videobuf2_memops agpgart 28672 3 intel_gtt,ttm,drm snd 49152 12 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_timer soundcore 12288 1 snd snd_intel_dspcfg 12288 1 snd_hda_intel i2c_designware_platform 12288 0 i2c_designware_core 16384 1 i2c_designware_platform squashfs 32768 374 loop 24576 748 rndis_host 12288 0 rtsx_usb_ms 16384 0 memstick 12288 1 rtsx_usb_ms rtsx_usb_sdmmc 16384 0 rtsx_usb 12288 2 rtsx_usb_ms,rtsx_usb_sdmmc r8152 69632 0 cdc_ether 12288 1 rndis_host usbnet 20480 2 rndis_host,cdc_ether mii 12288 2 r8152,usbnet mmc_block 24576 0 battery 16384 0 ac 12288 0 sdhci_pci 36864 0 cqhci 16384 1 sdhci_pci sdhci 36864 1 sdhci_pci video 36864 1 i915 mmc_core 81920 5 rtsx_usb_sdmmc,mmc_block,sdhci_pci,cqhci,sdhci lpc_ich 24576 0 mei_hdcp 12288 0 backlight 12288 4 i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,video intel_rapl_msr 12288 0 8250_dw 12288 0 intel_hid 16384 0 sparse_keymap 12288 1 intel_hid int3400_thermal 12288 0 int3403_thermal 12288 0 acpi_thermal_rel 12288 1 int3400_thermal pcspkr 12288 0 pinctrl_broxton 32768 2 xhci_pci 12288 0 xhci_hcd 102400 1 xhci_pci processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy 12288 0 processor_thermal_device 12288 1 processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy int340x_thermal_zone 12288 2 int3403_thermal,processor_thermal_device processor_thermal_rapl 12288 1 processor_thermal_device intel_rapl_common 16384 2 intel_rapl_msr,processor_thermal_rapl processor_thermal_rfim 12288 1 processor_thermal_device processor_thermal_mbox 12288 2 processor_thermal_device,processor_thermal_rfim xhci_pci_renesas 12288 1 xhci_pci mei_me 20480 1 mei 49152 3 mei_hdcp,mei_me intel_soc_dts_iosf 12288 1 processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 07, 2022, 01:10:24 PM: Hi tcl_user5
The lsmod command shows the driver (intel_hid) being loaded.

Looking at your dmesg result makes me think there may be something wrong with how you installed Tinycore:
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[ 0.000000] Linux version 5.15.10-tinycore64 (tc@box) (gcc (GCC) 11.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.37) #622 SMP Tue Dec 21 17:30:32 UTC 2021 [ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz64 loglevel=3 tce waitusb=5 vga=791 initrd=/boot/syslinux/corepure64.gz ----- Snip ----- [ 0.035885] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz64 loglevel=3 tce waitusb=5 vga=791 initrd=/boot/syslinux/corepure64.gz [ 0.036208] Unknown kernel command line parameters "tce BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/syslinux/vmlinuz64 waitusb=5 vga=791", will be passed to user space.There is no tce boot code. It looks like you changed a cde boot code to tce.
I'm not sure if it's unhappy about the BOOT_IMAGE or what it is pointing to.

I don't think I've ever seen this before:
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[ 12.718768] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 80 [ 12.797002] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 32 [ 12.870183] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 24 [ 12.949867] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 16 [ 13.003363] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 752 [ 13.120388] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 1872 [ 13.291921] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 56 [ 13.380272] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 128 [ 13.452100] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 56 [ 13.503706] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 200 [ 13.577668] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 616 [ 13.670278] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 1000 [ 13.784914] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 64 [ 13.801358] random: crng init done [ 13.852537] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 136 [ 13.924332] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 624 [ 14.011213] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 32 [ 14.077449] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 2968 [ 14.255399] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 1160 [ 14.374204] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 720 [ 14.462863] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 456 [ 14.564192] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 88 [ 14.642638] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 24 [ 14.701854] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 336 [ 14.774189] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 104 [ 14.872417] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 72 [ 14.957596] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 2352 [ 15.087725] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 272 [ 15.169307] loop0: detected capacity change from 0 to 1896 [ 15.216114] loop1: detected capacity change from 0 to 64 [ 15.269322] loop2: detected capacity change from 0 to 8408 [ 15.345006] loop3: detected capacity change from 0 to 88 ----- Snip ----- [ 36.892222] loop369: detected capacity change from 0 to 88 [ 36.947945] loop370: detected capacity change from 0 to 8 [ 36.995049] loop371: detected capacity change from 0 to 88 [ 37.047896] loop372: detected capacity change from 0 to 1608
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 03:54:57 AM: Hello Rich and Juanito,

(1) After checking with another distro on the same laptop in which the Touchpad works perfecly, I see that the Touchpad is not recognized in TinyCoreLinux 13.0. I am attaching the screenshot of xinput in which the touchpad is seen with id=11. The device is ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad. (I had earlier incorrectly mentioned that the Touchpad is recognized since I had co-related it with the wrong device ID)

(2) This device is not seen in the xinput --list in TinyCoreLinux 13.0
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⎡ Virtual core pointer id=2 [master pointer (3)] ⎜ ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointer id=4 [slave pointer (2)] ⎜ ↳ PixArt USB Optical Mouse id=7 [slave pointer (2)] ⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3 [master keyboard (2)] ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard id=5 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Power Button id=6 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Intel HID 5 button array id=9 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ Intel HID events id=8 [slave keyboard (3)] ↳ AT Translated Set 2 keyboard id=10 [slave keyboard (3)]
(3) I have loaded libinput and xf86-input-libinput. Are there any other drivers that I need to load for ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad ? Is there any specific sequence in which libinput and xf86-input-libinput are to be loaded ? I have loaded them in the sequence of >Xfbdev > flwm > libinput > xf86-input-libinput > Xorg-7.7. (I am asking this since I was facing a problem earlier in using wifi extension which was due to installing wifi first and firmware subsequently which got solved by using the right sequence !)

(4) I am attaching dmesg and lsmod outputs for reference. Earlier, as pointed out by Rich, I had installed Tinycore through a Porteus mashup. Now, I have reinstalled Tinycore 13.0 (64 bit) on HDD using grub-multi extension of Tinycore.

lsmod output is as follows:-

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Module Size Used by Not tainted snd_hda_codec_hdmi 36864 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 94208 1 snd_hda_codec_generic 45056 1 snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_usb_audio 192512 0 snd_usbmidi_lib 20480 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi 20480 1 snd_usbmidi_lib snd_seq_device 12288 1 snd_rawmidi snd_hda_intel 28672 0 snd_hda_codec 65536 4 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel snd_hda_core 36864 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_pcm 65536 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core snd_hwdep 12288 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 24576 1 snd_pcm snd 49152 12 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_timer soundcore 12288 1 snd snd_intel_dspcfg 12288 1 snd_hda_intel ntfs 77824 2 ccm 16384 9 rtl8xxxu 81920 0 mac80211 311296 1 rtl8xxxu cfg80211 225280 2 rtl8xxxu,mac80211 rtsx_usb_ms 16384 0 memstick 12288 1 rtsx_usb_ms rtsx_usb_sdmmc 16384 0 rtsx_usb 12288 2 rtsx_usb_ms,rtsx_usb_sdmmc r8152 69632 0 cdc_ether 12288 0 usbnet 20480 1 cdc_ether mii 12288 2 r8152,usbnet cpufreq_userspace 12288 0 cpufreq_conservative 12288 0 cpufreq_powersave 12288 0 squashfs 32768 166 loop 24576 332 mmc_block 24576 5 mei_hdcp 12288 0 intel_rapl_msr 12288 0 sdhci_pci 36864 0 lpc_ich 24576 0 cqhci 16384 1 sdhci_pci pcspkr 12288 0 sdhci 36864 1 sdhci_pci ac 12288 0 battery 16384 0 mmc_core 81920 5 rtsx_usb_sdmmc,mmc_block,sdhci_pci,cqhci,sdhci 8250_dw 12288 0 video 36864 0 backlight 12288 1 video pinctrl_broxton 32768 2 intel_hid 16384 0 sparse_keymap 12288 1 intel_hid int3403_thermal 12288 0 int3400_thermal 12288 0 acpi_thermal_rel 12288 1 int3400_thermal processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy 12288 0 mei_me 20480 1 processor_thermal_device 12288 1 processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy int340x_thermal_zone 12288 2 int3403_thermal,processor_thermal_device processor_thermal_rapl 12288 1 processor_thermal_device intel_rapl_common 16384 2 intel_rapl_msr,processor_thermal_rapl xhci_pci 12288 0 processor_thermal_rfim 12288 1 processor_thermal_device processor_thermal_mbox 12288 2 processor_thermal_device,processor_thermal_rfim xhci_hcd 102400 1 xhci_pci intel_soc_dts_iosf 12288 1 processor_thermal_device_pci_legacy xhci_pci_renesas 12288 1 xhci_pci mei 49152 3 mei_hdcp,mei_me
tcl_user5
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 20, 2022, 04:10:24 AM: There's no particular order to loading Xorg extensions - loading Xorg-7.7 and then "startx" should be enough.

What does "sudo libinput list-devices" give?

For example"
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... Device: AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint Kernel: /dev/input/event7 Group: 8 Seat: seat0, default Size: 95x44mm Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: disabled Tap-and-drag: enabled Tap drag lock: disabled Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: enabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: *two-finger edge Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: enabled Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a ...
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 05:03:40 AM: Hello Juanito,

"sudo libinput list-devices" gives the following output:-

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Device: Power Button Kernel: /dev/input/event1 Group: 1 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: PixArt USB Optical Mouse Kernel: /dev/input/event6 Group: 2 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: pointer Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: disabled Nat.scrolling: disabled Middle emulation: disabled Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: button Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: flat *adaptive Rotation: n/a Device: Intel HID events Kernel: /dev/input/event3 Group: 3 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: Intel HID 5 button array Kernel: /dev/input/event4 Group: 4 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a Device: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard Kernel: /dev/input/event2 Group: 5 Seat: seat0, default Capabilities: keyboard Tap-to-click: n/a Tap-and-drag: n/a Tap drag lock: n/a Left-handed: n/a Nat.scrolling: n/a Middle emulation: n/a Calibration: n/a Scroll methods: none Click methods: none Disable-w-typing: n/a Accel profiles: n/a Rotation: n/a
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 20, 2022, 05:11:21 AM: Does "cat /proc/bus/input/devices" show the touchpad?
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 06:49:50 AM: Hello Juanito,

"cat/proc/bus/input/devices" does not appear to show the touchpad.

Output as follows:-

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I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0005 Version=0000 N: Name="Lid Switch" P: Phys=PNP0C0D/button/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:13/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0D:00/input/input0 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event0 B: PROP=0 B: EV=21 B: SW=1 I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0001 Version=0000 N: Name="Power Button" P: Phys=PNP0C0C/button/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input1 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event1 B: PROP=0 B: EV=3 B: KEY=10000000000000 0 I: Bus=0011 Vendor=0001 Product=0001 Version=ab83 N: Name="AT Translated Set 2 keyboard" P: Phys=isa0060/serio0/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input2 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=sysrq kbd leds event2 B: PROP=0 B: EV=120013 B: KEY=402000000 3803078f800d001 feffffdfffefffff fffffffffffffffe B: MSC=10 B: LED=7 I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0000 Version=0000 N: Name="Intel HID events" P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/INT33D5:00/input/input3 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=rfkill kbd event3 B: PROP=0 B: EV=13 B: KEY=81000300000000 5000004000 1e294000000020 0 B: MSC=10 I: Bus=0019 Vendor=0000 Product=0000 Version=0000 N: Name="Intel HID 5 button array" P: Phys= S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/INT33D5:00/input/input4 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event4 B: PROP=0 B: EV=13 B: KEY=2000000000000 0 0 0 0 1000000000000 0 201c000000000000 0 B: MSC=10 I: Bus=0010 Vendor=001f Product=0001 Version=0100 N: Name="PC Speaker" P: Phys=isa0061/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input5 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=kbd event5 B: PROP=0 B: EV=40001 B: SND=6 I: Bus=0003 Vendor=093a Product=2510 Version=0111 N: Name="PixArt USB Optical Mouse" P: Phys=usb-0000:00:15.0-6.1/input0 S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.0/usb1/1-6/1-6.1/1-6.1:1.0/0003:093A:2510.0001/input/input6 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=mouse0 event6 B: PROP=0 B: EV=17 B: KEY=70000 0 0 0 0 B: REL=903 B: MSC=10 I: Bus=0000 Vendor=0000 Product=0000 Version=0000 N: Name="HDA Intel PCH Mic" P: Phys=ALSA S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0e.0/sound/card0/input7 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event7 B: PROP=0 B: EV=21 B: SW=10 I: Bus=0000 Vendor=0000 Product=0000 Version=0000 N: Name="HDA Intel PCH Headphone" P: Phys=ALSA S: Sysfs=/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:0e.0/sound/card0/input8 U: Uniq= H: Handlers=event8 B: PROP=0 B: EV=21 B: SW=4
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 20, 2022, 06:57:05 AM: Maybe you could try booting without the "PixArt USB Optical Mouse" plugged in?

If that doesn't work, it might be a kernel problem.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 20, 2022, 11:50:46 AM: Hi tcl_user5
Quote from: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 03:54:57 AM
... After checking with another distro on the same laptop in which the Touchpad works perfecly, ...
Please attach a dmesg.txt from that distro.

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... I have loaded them in the sequence of >Xfbdev > flwm > libinput > xf86-input-libinput > Xorg-7.7. ...
Don't load Xfbdev , you are using Xorg.
Don't load libinput or xf86-input-libinput , Xorg loads them automatically.

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... Now, I have reinstalled Tinycore 13.0 (64 bit) on HDD using grub-multi extension of Tinycore. ...
Please attach a copy of your grub.cfg file.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 02:13:41 PM: Hi Rich,

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Please attach a dmesg.txt from that distro.
(1) dmesg.txt of the other distro in which touchpad is working is attached.

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Don't load Xfbdev , you are using Xorg.
Don't load libinput or xf86-input-libinput , Xorg loads them automatically.
(2) This time, I loaded only Xorg. I did not load Xfbdev, libinput or xf86-input-libinput

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Please attach a copy of your grub.cfg file.
(3) Copy of grub.cfg attached.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 20, 2022, 02:19:12 PM: Quote from: Juanito on March 20, 2022, 06:57:05 AM
Maybe you could try booting without the "PixArt USB Optical Mouse" plugged in?......

I tried booting without the "PixArt USB Optical Mouse". Touchpad still not working.

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If that doesn't work, it might be a kernel problem.

I tried with TinyCore 11.0 and TinyCore 12.0 kernels (particularly since xf86-input-synaptics is available in v12.0) as well. Touchpad does not work in those versions also.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: PDP-8 on March 20, 2022, 08:44:11 PM: Also check in your bios to see if your touchpad has a "basic" or "advanced" option.

On two of my Asus laptops, I had to change from the default of advanced to "basic", to get it recognized and working properly.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 20, 2022, 09:13:01 PM: Hi tcl_user5
It looks like you need the i2c kernel modules:
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tce-load -wi i2c-KERNELThis will add the extension to your onboot.lst file so it loads automatically when your computer starts.
Restart the computer and see if touchpad is now visible.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 21, 2022, 02:09:20 PM: Quote from: Rich on March 20, 2022, 09:13:01 PM
Hi tcl_user5
It looks like you need the i2c kernel modules:
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tce-load -wi i2c-KERNEL

I installed i2c kernel modules as per the above suggestion. The touchpad is not seen after booting and continues to remain unrecognized.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 21, 2022, 02:13:58 PM: Hello PDP-8

Quote from: PDP-8 on March 20, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
Also check in your bios to see if your touchpad has a "basic" or "advanced" option.

On two of my Asus laptops, I had to change from the default of advanced to "basic", to get it recognized and working properly.

I checked in the bios. There is no option of "basic" or "advanced" in the bios. Only option was to set default to factory settings. I tried that as well. The touchpad is still not recognized.

There does not seem to be any issue with the bios settings as touchpad is recognized and working on the same laptop with Windows and other Linux distros.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 21, 2022, 05:18:10 PM: Hi tcl_user5
Just to be clear, it does not show up for commands like:
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sudo libinput list-devicesor:
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cat /proc/bus/input/devices
Please attach a fresh (Tinycore) copy of:
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dmesg > dmesg.txt
Please run this command on the working distro and post the results:
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lsmod > lsmod.txt
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 21, 2022, 10:56:39 PM: Attaching the following outputs

1) sudo libinput list-devices as libinput.txt
2) cat /proc/bus/input/devices as cat.txt
3) fresh copy of dmesg.txt of Tinycore
4) lsmod of working distro as lsmod_working distro.txt

Touchpad is not showing up in libinput list-devices and cat /proc/bus/input/devices
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 22, 2022, 12:56:20 AM: Hi tcl_user5
OK, I think I see the problem. This is from the dmesg from your working distro::
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[ 10.093957] i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: supply vdd not found, using dummy regulator ----- Snip ----- [ 10.466157] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input6 [ 10.466354] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input7 [ 10.466478] hid-generic 0018:0911:5288.0002: input,hidraw1: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ALPS0001:01 0911:5288] on i2c-ALPS0001:01 ----- Snip ----- [ 11.859628] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input18 [ 11.860172] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input19 [ 11.860626] hid-multitouch 0018:0911:5288.0002: input,hidraw1: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ALPS0001:01 0911:5288] on i2c-ALPS0001:01It looks like your working distro provides i2c_hid.ko (i2c_hid_acpi.ko after kernel 5.11) which is not enabled in our kernel:
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# CONFIG_I2C_HID_ACPI is not set
It's possible this might need to be enabled too:
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# CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI is not set
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 28, 2022, 08:46:33 AM: Hello Rich,

Quote from: Rich on March 22, 2022, 12:56:20 AM
Hi tcl_user5
OK, I think I see the problem. This is from the dmesg from your working distro::

It looks like your working distro provides i2c_hid.ko (i2c_hid_acpi.ko after kernel 5.11) which is not enabled in our kernel:
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# CONFIG_I2C_HID_ACPI is not set
It's possible this might need to be enabled too:
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# CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI is not set

(1) I was having issues in compiling the modified kernel in version 13.0. Hence, I configured the kernel and enabled "CONFIG_I2C_HID" in version 12. I followed the steps listed by Juanito in Reply #3 of http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=24946.0 with make menuconfig instead of make oldconfig. Even in version 12, at the command make bzImage && make modules_install, the bzImage was generated properly in the arch/x86_64/boot folder but I got a string of error messages.

(2) Since bzImage was generated, I tried booting with the modified kernel (version 12.0). Now, the Touchpad is seen in xinput -- list. However, I am getting the following errors while booting & the touchpad does not work after booting.

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i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: supply vdd not found, using dummy regulator i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: supply vddl not found, using dummy regulator ______ i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/34049) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/2352) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/2375) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/1800) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/8713) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/261) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/641) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/38152) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/40998) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/20745) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/641) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/3333) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/1429) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/293) i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: i2c_hid_get_input: incomplete report (32/417)
(3) While configuring the kernel, I tried enabling CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI also as suggested by Rich. However, after compiling the kernel with "CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI"= y, the touchpad does not get recognized in xinput --list. Hence, I kept CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI as disabled in the modified kernel.

(4) After booting with modified kernel, I installed xf86-input-synaptics.tcz also but the touchpad still does not work.

(5) On looking up the internet, the supply vdd not found, using dummy regulator appears to be a touchpad bug. For example:- at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1806863.
Can it be resolved by adding some booting parameter to the grub file ?

I am attaching dmesg and lsmod outputs of the modified kernel for reference.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 28, 2022, 11:02:56 AM: Hi tcl_user5
If you look at my previous reply, the "supply vdd not found" (and other messages) where in the working distro's
dmesg results too.

It appears the operating system recognizes your hardware. I think the issue is now further downstream.

Run:
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xinput --listTake the id NUMBER for each ALPS device and run this command for it:
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xinput enable NUMBERSee if the device responds now.

I would also look for Xorg configuration files in the working distro to see if they reference the touchpad.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 28, 2022, 03:18:01 PM: Hello Rich,

I checked with "xinput enable NUMBER". The touchpad is not responding.

The Xorg configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf contains the following

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Section "InputClass" Identifier "libinput touchpad catchall" MatchIsTouchpad "on" MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*" Driver "libinput" Option "Tapping" "on" EndSection
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on March 28, 2022, 05:02:17 PM: Hi tcl_user5
Create that directory:
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sudo mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dPlace a copy of 40-libinput.conf into it.
Add the etc/X11 directory to your backup if it's not already there and run abackup.
Restart X and see if it responds to the touchpad.
If it doesn't, then attach a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to your next post.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on March 28, 2022, 11:14:32 PM: Hello Rich,

Quote from: Rich on March 28, 2022, 05:02:17 PM
Hi tcl_user5
Create that directory:
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sudo mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dPlace a copy of 40-libinput.conf into it.
Add the etc/X11 directory to your backup if it's not already there and run abackup.
Restart X and see if it responds to the touchpad.
If it doesn't, then attach a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log to your next post.

I created /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d and placed 40-libinput.conf into it. Also, backed up etc/X11. On restart, the touchpad does not respond.

I am attaching /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 29, 2022, 12:56:07 AM: I'm not at a tinycore machine to check if conf snippets work from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, but the default directory is /usr/local/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Juanito on March 29, 2022, 12:59:32 AM: Quote from: tcl_user5 on March 28, 2022, 08:46:33 AM
with make menuconfig instead of make oldconfig

You need to copy the tinycore config to .config, "make oldconfig" and then make your changes with "make menuconfig".
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_user5 on April 16, 2022, 08:49:14 AM: Quote from: Rich on March 22, 2022, 12:56:20 AM
Hi tcl_user5
OK, I think I see the problem. This is from the dmesg from your working distro::
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[ 10.093957] i2c_hid i2c-ALPS0001:01: supply vdd not found, using dummy regulator ----- Snip ----- [ 10.466157] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input6 [ 10.466354] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input7 [ 10.466478] hid-generic 0018:0911:5288.0002: input,hidraw1: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ALPS0001:01 0911:5288] on i2c-ALPS0001:01 ----- Snip ----- [ 11.859628] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input18 [ 11.860172] input: ALPS0001:01 0911:5288 Touchpad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:17.0/i2c_designware.4/i2c-4/i2c-ALPS0001:01/0018:0911:5288.0002/input/input19 [ 11.860626] hid-multitouch 0018:0911:5288.0002: input,hidraw1: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse [ALPS0001:01 0911:5288] on i2c-ALPS0001:01It looks like your working distro provides i2c_hid.ko (i2c_hid_acpi.ko after kernel 5.11) which is not enabled in our kernel:
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# CONFIG_I2C_HID_ACPI is not set
It's possible this might need to be enabled too:
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# CONFIG_I2C_DESIGNWARE_PCI is not set

I enabled the following in the kernel
CONFIG_I2C_HID_ACPI = y
CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH =y
CONFIG_HID_ALPS =y

Now the touchpad is working !

Thanks to members for their suggestions.

(In the standard TC kernel (v13.0), CONFIG_I2C_HID_ACPI is not set whereas CONFIG_HID_MULTITOUCH = m and CONFIG_HID_ALPS =m. Even after enabling I2C_HID_ACPI, the touchpad was not working with HID_MULTITOUCH and HID_ALPS set to m. Why it works with "y" and not with "m" is not clear to me. With both these parameters set to "m", only the Mouse part was getting recognized and not the touchpad.)
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: Rich on April 16, 2022, 02:11:52 PM: Hi tcl_user5
Congratulations on your success.

Quote from: tcl_user5 on April 16, 2022, 08:49:14 AM
... Why it works with "y" and not with "m" is not clear to me. ...
The only difference I'm aware of is modules (m) can be loaded and unloaded where as built-in (y) are always in memory.

As long as you are using make menuconfig when selecting m or Y , and not editing the config file directory, I don't
see why it should make any difference.
Title: Re: How to activate touchpad in Tinycorelinux 13.0
Post by: tcl_funtimes on March 10, 2024, 12:23:34 PM: Thanks everyone for contributing to this thread! It helped me get a touchpad working on an Acer c720 running TC 15.0.

The exact steps I needed to do were as follows:

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tce-load -wi i2c-6.6.8-tinycore.tcz sudo modprobe -a chromeos_laptop
Cheers!