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Title: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: bernhard on April 30, 2020, 11:18:08 AM
not really a bug in TinyCore ... but I don't know where I should post it:

When I try to access the wiki, I get messages saying:

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User authentication is temporarily unavailable. If this situation persists, please inform your Wiki Admin.
 
Permission Denied

Sorry, you don't have enough rights to continue.
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and I cannot log in ...
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: Rich on April 30, 2020, 11:30:02 AM
Hi bernhard
This is just one of several reported Wiki issues posts:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23697.msg148589.html#msg148589

Here is a mirror of the Wiki if that helps you. I don't know whether or not you can actually login to it.
[Link deleted, Wiki is fixed.  Rich]
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: neonix on April 30, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
It's no possible to login, I get 405 Not Allowed error. Some pages are also missing.

Another mirror.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191011034923/http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: bernhard on June 21, 2020, 05:41:41 PM
Here is a mirror of the Wiki if that helps you. I don't know whether or not you can actually login to it.
[Link deleted, Wiki is fixed.  Rich]
late, but hopefully not too late: thanks a lot for the mirror link, it is very helpfull.

I tried to contact gutmensch by PM but he seems to be not available anymore, at least he was last active on 22 December 2018 ...
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: aus9 on June 21, 2020, 09:14:19 PM
bernhard

If you have info to share, please consider posting to the forum.

Otherwise, consider posting either a bug report against the base or post to the relevant TCE sub-forum.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: Rich on June 21, 2020, 09:58:24 PM
Hi aus9
Read the original post again. What bernhard was reporting is that the Wiki is not currently accessible.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: bernhard on June 23, 2020, 11:19:20 AM
Hi aus9
Read the original post again. What bernhard was reporting is that the Wiki is not currently accessible.

absolutely correct.

And I wanted to point out that the mirror link for the defunct wiki is very helpful.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: nick65go on June 25, 2020, 04:19:37 AM
 I am just a little curious: what is the MAIN problem, why is wiki off?
Is it a problem of money (server subscription not paid), hacked/cracked server, no time from developers (better things to do), no general/focus interest on wiki docs?
Is this problem worked on, what time frame do you estimate it needs to be fixed?

Info is generally available, internet searchable, etc. No big deal for motivated user.
Therefore, it seems to be a management-diluted resource.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: Juanito on June 25, 2020, 04:48:54 AM
@curaga will be able to say more, but as I recall, the host updated something that broke the wiki software and now we're waiting on somebody with the time/expertise to fix things.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: mocore on June 25, 2020, 06:06:15 AM
@curaga will be able to say more, but as I recall, the host updated something that broke the wiki software and now we're waiting on somebody with the time/expertise to fix things.

to save @curaga the need for repetition , the problem / situation was outlined in this post  ;)

PHP upgrade broke it, it is a customized old version, and nobody around with PHP skills. Plus corona. Basically that.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: dentonlt on August 01, 2020, 12:00:26 AM
Thanks for posting all this. I'll queue the wiki updating/fixing for the weeks/months ahead ...   :-\
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: HappyMan on December 05, 2021, 04:08:31 PM
Sorry for posting to such an old topic.
However , it is vital to fix the wiki.
If it is a matter of money i am willing to help the community.
Just let me know
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: bernhard on December 14, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
as far as I understood, it is a problem of knowing/understanding/developing in PHP, which should be
solvable with money  given the large number of people developing in PHP ...

But it is a question that should better be answered by one of the main crew than by me
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: Juanito on December 15, 2021, 08:02:48 AM
The problem is that we cannot access the forum server and wiki and cannot contact the admin.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: CentralWare on December 20, 2021, 02:25:31 AM
The problem is that we cannot access the forum server and wiki and cannot contact the admin.
@Juanito, does anyone have an internal backup/copy of the wiki content and database?IF SO, does anyone have direct access to DNS records for TCL's site?  (Wiki isn't the only thing 'broken' it seems from our end.)If the above are both yes, I may be able to assist.  (Will need logs if accessible.)
Other issue:
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Name:      www.tinycorelinux.net
Address 1: 89.22.99.37
root@MPC:/mnt/storage/os$ ping 89.22.99.37
PING 89.22.99.37 (89.22.99.37): 56 data bytes
--- 89.22.99.37 ping statistics ---
13 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss
From my end, I cannot access the main website.  (Times out; from here it's been down for a while.)  Thankfully, I have a bookmark set for TCL's mirror on Ibiblio so when I'm looking for something (not wiki related  ;) ), usually an extension from a previous release, I'm good to go.

Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: curaga on December 20, 2021, 03:05:47 AM
We have backups from 2019, and yes, the DNS is ours.

About the ping, that's part of the port scanning protection. You essentially blocked yourself for a short time.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: lucienmp on January 25, 2022, 10:49:28 AM
whats stopping the recovery of the wiki at this point?
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: Rich on January 25, 2022, 11:50:42 AM
Hi lucienmp
The problem is that we cannot access the forum server and wiki and cannot contact the admin.

If you are looking to access the content, an alternative link can be found here:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25220.0.html
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: lucienmp on January 25, 2022, 07:15:02 PM

The problem is that we cannot access the forum server and wiki and cannot contact the admin.

What about redirecting to a new service, and reconstituting all the old data form the archive?
(You would loose the editing history but maintain the actual latest copy before it went down)

Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: curaga on January 26, 2022, 03:57:02 AM
Wiki credentials were tied to the forum, ie the wiki must run on the same server as the forum.

"Why not set up a new forum & wiki then?" - time, energy, money. Plus losing three years of forum posts.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: gadget42 on January 26, 2022, 07:00:41 AM
anyone know one of these people?

https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/24/22898712/crypto-hardware-wallet-hacking-lost-bitcoin-ethereum-nft

maybe they might take pity on us poor tinycore folks

sharing is caring
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: lucienmp on January 26, 2022, 09:02:56 AM
Wiki credentials were tied to the forum, ie the wiki must run on the same server as the forum.

I run several wikis, casually dev some plugins for VE.  So I know you can run a wiki on a secondary server and you are pointing to wiki.tinycorelinux.net so its easy enough to change the DNS to another Wiki server.

Forums can stay as they are for now, no need to change that.

What do you think?

I dont mind helping with any of these aspects.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: curaga on January 26, 2022, 11:14:10 AM
It's a usability limitation if you have to register separately to the wiki.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: lucienmp on January 26, 2022, 11:30:26 AM
It's a usability limitation if you have to register separately to the wiki.

Theres a wiki I can log into right now?  I thought the wiki was offline, or at least it appears this way
Do I just need to log into it?
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: curaga on January 27, 2022, 03:39:50 AM
The login is broken because of PHP. That was the first issue with the wiki, before the admin went uncontactable.

The last wiki backup was posted in one of these threads. You're free to play with it if you want, at least two members have done so so far.
Title: Re: Wiki Problems ?
Post by: lucienmp on January 27, 2022, 08:32:13 AM
OK, let me have a go - send a PM to check out a few things before I really start to burn some time