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Title: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 02, 2020, 06:21:13 PM
Purpose: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.

Hello dear colleagues,

I have a problem that I detected when installing Tiny Core Plus version 11.0 32-bit.

I installed "Tiny Core Plus" on an HD on the computer but the audio is not outputting.

How to configure the audio?
Do you have to download a drive?
If it is the necessary audio drive, how do I download and install it?

I need help so that computers / notebook / netbook have audio working with Tiny Core 32 bit and 64 bit.

These same questions were asked in another forum, as I do not know if I can include a link from other sites and forums in this forum, I will not post here, if you authorize me I will inform you of the link of the other forum. As they did not know how to solve the problem, they encouraged their colleague, who also writes in Portuguese, to abandon Tiny Core.

I tested many Linux on computers with little RAM (less than 1GB DDR1 or DIMM) and with old processors (Celeron, Pentium III and Pentium IV), none of the other Linux appeals to me like Tiny Core Plus. All the other linux I tested made computers (with the hardware described earlier) impossible to browse the internet, use the office, copy data from the computer to DVD, or edit audio. If Tiny Core manages to be good on computers with simple or old hardware, computers with 4GB of RAM and an AMD II or Dual Core processor are excellent, thanks to the work of the geniuses of the Tiny Core team.

Thank you for always answering my questions.

thankful
marcelocripe

Original text in Portuguese, translated into English by Google Translate

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Objetivo: Áudio do computador não funciona com o Tiny Core Plus versão 11.0 de 32 bits.

Olá caro colegas,

Trago um problema que detectei na instalação do Tiny Core Plus versão 11.0 de 32 bits.

Eu instalei o "Tiny Core Plus" em um HD no computador mais não esta saindo o áudio.

Como configurar o áudio?
Tem que baixar algum drive?
Se for o necessário drive de áudio, como eu baixo e instalo?

Preciso de ajuda para que os computadores/notebook/netbook tenham o áudio funcionando com o Tiny Core 32 bit e 64 bits.

Estas mesmas perguntas foram feitas em outro fórum, como não sei se posso incluir link de outros sites e fóruns neste fórum, não postarei aqui, se me autorizarem eu informo o link do outro fórum. Como não souberam resolver o problema, estimularam o colega, que também escreve em português, a abandonar o Tiny Core.

Eu testei muitos Linux em computadores com pouca memória RAM (menos que 1GB DDR1 ou DIMM) e com processadores antigos (Celeron, Pentium III e Pentium IV), nenhum dos outros Linux me atraiu como o Tiny Core Plus. Todos os outros linux que testei deixavam os computadores (com o hardware descrito anteriormente) impossíveis de navegar na internet, usar o office, copiar dados do computador para o DVD, ou editar áudio. Se o Tiny Core consegue ser bom em computadores com hardware  simples ou antigo, em computadores com 4GB de memória RAM  e processador AMD II ou Dual Core fica excelente, graças ao trabalho dos gênios da equipe Tiny Core.

Agradeço por sempre responderem as minhas dúvidas.

Grato
marcelocripe

Texto original em português, traduzido para inglês por Google Tradutor
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 03, 2020, 01:42:36 AM
To configure and test audio:
Code: [Select]
$ tce-load -i alsa-config
$ tce-load -i alsa
$ alsamixer [check that your audio is not muted]
$ speaker-test -c2 -t wav -l1 [you may need speaker-test -Ddefault:1 -c2 -t wav -l1]
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 05, 2020, 10:33:53 AM
Juanito,

Once again thank you for responding.

To run the commands in the terminal, before I needed to install with Apps: Regular Applications (tcz): alsa-config.tcz and alsa.tcz.

With the commands you taught me it was possible to open the computer's audio control panel.

Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google Translate.

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Juanito,

Mais uma vez agradeço por responder.

Para funcionar os comandos no terminal, antes eu precisei instalar com o Apps: Regular Applications (tcz): alsa-config.tcz e alsa.tcz.

Com os comandos que você me ensinou foi possível abrir o painel de controle do áudio do computador.

Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, traduduzido para o inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 05, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
Juanito,

I had forgotten to test the audio with the internet browser (Firefox 47.0.1), it didn't work, even though I increased the levels with alsamixer.

What do I need to do for the audio to work with VLC3 and also in the browser?
 
Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google Translate.

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Juanito,

Eu havia me esquecido de testar o áudio com o navegador de internet (Firefox 47.0.1), não funcionou, mesmo eu aumentando os níveis com o alsamixer.

O que é preciso fazer para o áudio funcionar com o VLC3 e também no navegador?
 
Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 05, 2020, 11:11:41 AM
The correct one is Firefox 74.0.1
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 05, 2020, 11:15:49 AM
Hi marcelocripe
Firefox also requires  pulseaudio:
http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/tcz/pulseaudio.tcz.info
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 05, 2020, 11:18:45 AM
I seem to remember firefox needs pulseaudio sound
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 05, 2020, 07:15:53 PM
Rico and Juanito,

Once again thank you for responding.

I installed pulseaudio.tcz with Apps: Regular Applications, as always in On Demand mode.

I started the extensions, which were installed in On Demand mode, in the sequence: alsa, alsa-config, pulseaudio, lastly Firefox 74.01.

Unfortunately Firefox 74.01 remains muted, I tested it on Youtube and another online radio site.

Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translation into English by Google Translate.

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Rico e Juanito,

Mais uma vez agradeço por responderem.

Instalei o pulseaudio.tcz com o Apps: Regular Applications, como de costume sempre no modo On Demand.

Iniciei as extensões, que foram instaladas no modo On Demand, na sequência: alsa, alsa-config, pulseaudio, por ultimo o  Firefox 74.01.

Infelizmente o Firefox 74.01 permanece sem áudio, testei no Youtube e em outro site de rádios online.

Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para o inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 05, 2020, 10:28:42 PM
Hi marcelocripe
... I installed pulseaudio.tcz with Apps: Regular Applications, as always in On Demand mode. ...
My first piece of advice is stop installing everything  On Demand.

In the  Apps  utility:
1. Click  Maintenance->OnDemand Maintenance
2. Remove  alsa, alsa-config, and pulseaudio  from the  Current OnDemand Items  list.
3. Click  Maintenance->OnBoot Maintenance
4. Add to the  On Boot Items  list  alsa-config, alsa, and pulseaudio  in that order.

Reboot. Then make sure ALSA is still working. Then you need to read the  .info  file for  pulseaudio  for setup instructions:
http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/tcz/pulseaudio.tcz.info
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 06, 2020, 10:46:19 PM
Rich,

Once again thank you for responding.

"My first advice is to stop installing everything on demand."

I still don't master Tiny Core well enough, so that I know what is needed or what should be started or not with the operating system. This information I do not find in the forum, I need help, as to what should be installed OnBoot and what can be installed OnDemand.

I made the changes you guided me from OnBoot to OnDemand mode of the audio extensions in order: alsa-config, alsa and pulseaudio.

Unfortunately Firefox 74.01 remains muted, I tested it on Youtube and another online radio site.

After installing pulseaudio.tcz, vlc3.tzc is no longer able to play ".mp4" video, when I run it or load it, the program opens quickly and then closes.

At the terminal:
tc @ box: ~ $ tce-load -i vlc3
vlc3 is already instaled!
tc @ box: ~ $ vlc3
tc @ box: ~ $ VLC media player 3.0.8 Vetinari (revision 3.0.8-0gf350b6b5a7)
[094d6290] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default infarce. Use "cvlc" to us and clc without interface.
qt.qpa.xcb: falied to initialize XRandr
qt.qpa.xcb: XKeyboard extension not present on the X server
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/ tmp / runtime-tc'



Alsa is working.

I tried to do the commands on the link: http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/tcz/pulseaudio.tcz.info, but unfortunately they were unsuccessful.

I will try to send the print screens of the screen with the commands and the results.

Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in portuguese from Brazil, translated into English by Google Translate.

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Rico,

Mais uma vez agradeço por responder.

"Meu primeiro conselho é parar de instalar tudo On Demand."

Eu ainda não domino o Tiny Core suficientemente bem, para eu saber o que é preciso ou o que deve  ser iniciado ou não com o sistema operacional. Estas informações eu não encontro no fórum, preciso de ajuda, quanto o que deve ser instalado OnBoot e o que pode ser instalado OnDemand.

Eu fiz as alterações que você me orientou do modo OnBoot para OnDemand das extensões de áudio na ordem: alsa-config, alsa e pulseaudio.

Infelizmente o Firefox 74.01 permanece sem áudio, testei no Youtube e em outro site de rádios online.

Após a instalação do pulseaudio.tcz, o vlc3.tzc não consegue mais tocar vídeo ".mp4", quando eu o executo ou o carrego, o programa abre rapidamente e em seguida fecha.

No terminal:
tc@box:~$ tce-load -i vlc3
vlc3 is already instaled!
tc@box:~$vlc3
tc@box:~$ VLC media player 3.0.8 Vetinari (revision 3.0.8-0gf350b6b5a7)
[094d6290] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default infarce. Use "cvlc" to us e clc without interface.
qt.qpa.xcb: falied to initialize XRandr
qt.qpa.xcb: XKeyboard extension not present on the X server
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-tc'



O alsa está funcionando.

Eu tentei fazer os comandos do link: http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/tcz/pulseaudio.tcz.info, mas infelizmente foram sem sucesso.

Vou tentar enviar os print screen da tela com os comandos e o resultados.

Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 06, 2020, 11:54:01 PM
Hi marcelocripe
I never use  OnDemand.  Programs I want installed are  OnBoot.  Programs I don't want installed when I boot I choose the
Download + Load  or  Download Only  options in the  Apps  utility. When I need one of those programs:
1. Click  Apps->Load App Locally
2. Click on the program name.
3. Click on the  Load  button.

Applications that a user interacts with (web browser, spreadsheet, editor, etc.) can be placed  OnDemand.  Personally I don't
see any advantage, and at times it causes problems.

Audio and video drivers, libraries, kernel modules, etc. should not be placed  OnDemand.

It's not uncommon to have a command in  /opt/bootlocal.sh  to restore your audio settings. That won't work if alsa is  OnDemand.

... I made the changes you guided me from OnBoot to OnDemand mode of the audio extensions in order: alsa-config, alsa and pulseaudio. ...
I'm guessing something got lost in translation. I said to move them from  OnDemand  to  OnBoot.

These are the steps I used when setting ALSA up on my machine. They include steps which backup and restore audio settings:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,22145.msg138620.html#msg138620

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At the terminal:
tc @ box: ~ $ tce-load -i vlc3
vlc3 is already instaled!
tc @ box: ~ $ vlc3
tc @ box: ~ $ VLC media player 3.0.8 Vetinari (revision 3.0.8-0gf350b6b5a7)
[094d6290] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default infarce. Use "cvlc" to us and clc without interface.
qt.qpa.xcb: falied to initialize XRandr
qt.qpa.xcb: XKeyboard extension not present on the X server

QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/ tmp / runtime-tc'

I think that's coming from the  qt-5  dependency of  vlc3,  though I don't know why.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on April 07, 2020, 01:30:17 AM
try this

for TCL 11.1
Code: [Select]
tc@box:~$ tce-load -wi alsa pavucontrol
(http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22764.0;attach=5220)
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 07, 2020, 01:47:46 AM
I just tested this on tc-11.1 32-bit.

To get audio on my machine, I need to load graphics-KERNEL and alsa-config before anything else because the default sound is hdmi. This means that I cannot use Xvesa with applications needing sound.

After starting the gui using Xorg-7.7-3d and without starting the dbus daemon, I can then enable pulseaudio sound by loading and running pavucontrol.

After loading vlc3, it played an mp4 video without problems.

After loading firefox (version 73.0 obtained with the getFirefox extension), it played a youtube video without problems.

It appears that most qt-5 applications need at least Xorg-7.7 to work and perhaps even Xorg-7.7-3d.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on April 07, 2020, 02:19:26 AM
try this

for TCL 11.1
Code: [Select]
tc@box:~$ tce-load -wi alsa pavucontrol
(http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22764.0;attach=5220)

(http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23699.0;attach=5295)
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 07, 2020, 09:09:32 AM
Hi Juanito
... It appears that most qt-5 applications need at least Xorg-7.7 to work and perhaps even Xorg-7.7-3d.

vlc3 pulls in  Xorg-7.7-3d  through its  libavdevice4  dependency:
Code: [Select]
libavdevice4.tcz
   libavfilter4.tcz
      libswresample4.tcz
         libavutil4.tcz
            libva2.tcz
               Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz
                  Xorg-7.7.tcz
                     Xprogs.tcz
                        Xlibs.tcz
                           imlib2.tcz
 ----- SNIP -----
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 07, 2020, 10:14:03 AM
vlc3 pulls in  Xorg-7.7-3d  through its  libavdevice4 dependency

Ah - yes. Obviously not enough coffee at that point..
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 08, 2020, 06:12:28 PM
Rico, Xor, Juanito.

Thank you for responding.

Rico, thanks for clarifying the differences between OnBoot, OnDemand, Download + Load and Download. And how to use the extensions in the appropriate places. I did a lot of research, found few explanations of the differences and found no explanations of how to use each option. For those who have mastered Tiny Core or other Linux distributions, it may all be very obvious, but for the Windows operating system, not everything is so obvious or easy to understand.

Let me see if I understand, I will describe the way I understood by asking questions:

I appreciate if you can correct or complement the texts, in whatever is necessary to be correct.

OnBoot - do extensions start with the boot of the Tiny Core operating system, similar to what happens with other Linux and Windows distributions?

OnDemand - the extensions are downloaded in the / mnt / sda1 / tce / ondemand directory and are installed but do not start together with the Tiny Core operating system boot, the extension is only started when the user runs or loads it with Apps: Regular Application (tcz), click Apps, Load App Locally, select the desired extension and click Load (graphic mode) or terminla (text mode)?

Download + Load and Download, it was not easy to understand their differences and the best way to be used.

Download - if I managed to understand anything, in this option the extensions are downloaded and are in the / mnt / sda1 / tce / optional directory, they are not installed and do not start together with the boot of the Tiny Core operating system. The extension starts only when the user runs or loads it with Apps: Regular Application (tcz), click Apps, Load App Locally, select the desired extension and click Load? And then what will happen when the computer is restarted?

Download + Load - and this option, downloads the extension and loads. And then what will happen when the computer is restarted?

When shutting down the computer, do the extension files in the options downloaded in Download or Download + Load mode and their dependencies are lost or deleted or remain in the optional folder?

I did as you wrote, I apologize, the text was out of order. I moved from OnDemand to OnBoot: alsa-config, alsa and pulseaudio. And the audio doesn't come out of the computer, even I managed to change the sound levels with the alsamixer and it continued without the audio and it doesn't come out of the computer via a browser.

By any chance, if I tell you the make and model of the chip or the name of the drive that Windows used on the computer / notebook, does it make it easier?

"A command in /opt/bootlocal.sh to restore your audio settings", that was what was missing, when I managed to make the audio work with the guidance of colleague Xor, the audio controller of flit.tcz (used in the notebook ) started to work integrated with pavucontrol and audio worked in Firefox 74.01. After turning off the computer / notebook, the sound does not come out of the computer through Firefox, I can see the sound levels varying with the pavucontrol. Vlc3, unfortunately, no longer works after so many tests.

Could you please teach me the command to restore audio settings?

When one program causes conflict in the other, the way is to change one of the programs, as Firefox is the most updated browser that is available for Tiny Core Plus 31 bits, it is best to use another audio and video player.

Juanito, what would be the video and audio player to replace vlc3.tcz that does not disturb the sound of Firefox? the goal is to be able to use one or the other and have the sound always working.

I thank you for always helping me.

marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translation into English by Google Translate.

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Rico, Xor, Juanito.

Agradeço por vocês responderem.

Rico, obrigado por esclarecer as diferenças entre OnBoot, OnDemand, Download + Load e Download. E como usar as extensões no locais apropriados. Eu pesquisei bastante, encontrei poucas explicações sobre as diferenças e não encontrei explicações de como usar cada opção. Para quem domina o Tiny Core ou outra distribuições de Linux, pode ser tudo muito óbvio, mas para vem do sistema operacional Windows, nem tudo é tão óbvio ou fácil de compreender.

Deixa eu ver se entendi, vou descrever a forma que compreendi fazendo perguntas:

Agradeço se puder corrigir ou complementar os textos, no que for necessário para ficarem corretos.

OnBoot - as extensões iniciam junto com o boot do sistema operacional Tiny Core, semelhante ao que ocorre com outras distribuições do Linux e do Windows?

OnDemand - as extensões são baixadas  no diretório /mnt/sda1/tce/ondemand e são instaladas mas não iniciam junto com o boot do sistema operacional Tiny Core,  a extensão é iniciada apenas quando o usuário executa ou a carrega com o Apps: Regular Application (tcz), clicar em Apps, Load App Locally, selecionar a extensão desejada e clicar em Load (modo gráfico) ou no terminla (modo texto)?

Download + Load e Download, não ficou fácil de entender as suas diferenças e a melhor forma de serem utilizadas.

Download - se eu consegui compreender alguma coisa, nesta opção as extensões são baixadas e ficam no diretório /mnt/sda1/tce/optional, não são instaladas e não iniciam junto com o boot do sistema operacional Tiny Core. A extensão é iniciada apenas quando o usuário executa ou a carrega com o Apps: Regular Application (tcz), clicar em Apps, Load App Locally, selecionar a extensão desejada e clicar em Load? E depois  o que vai acontecer quando o computador for reiniciado?

Download + Load - e esta opção, baixa a extensão e carrega.  E depois o que vai acontecer quando o computador for reiniciado?

Quando desligar o computador os arquivos das extensões nas opções baixadas no modo Download ou Download + Load e as suas dependências são perdidas ou apagadas ou permanecem na pasta optional?

Eu fiz conforme você escreveu, peço desculpas, o texto ficou fora de ordem. Eu movi de OnDemand para o OnBoot: alsa-config, alsa e pulseaudio. E o áudio não sai do computador, inclusive eu consegui alterar os níveis de som com o alsamixer e continuou sem o áudio e não sai do computador via navegador.

Por acaso, se eu informar para vocês a marca e modelo do chip ou o nome do drive que o Windows utilizava no computador / notebook, facilita em alguma coisa?

"Um comando no /opt/bootlocal.sh para restaurar suas configurações de áudio", foi isso que ficou faltando, quando eu consegui fazer funcionar o áudio com as orientações do colega Xor, o controlador de áudio do flit.tcz (utilizado no notebook) passou a funcionar integrado ao pavucontrol e áudio funcionava no Firefox 74.01. Após desligar o computador / notebook, o som não saia do computador através do Firefox, eu consigo ver os níveis de som variando com o pavucontrol. O vlc3, infelizmente, não funciona mais após tantos testes.

Poderiam, por favor, me ensinarem o comando para restaurar as configurações de áudio?

Quando um programa causa conflito no outro, o jeito é trocar um dos programas, como o Firefox é o navegador mais atualizado que está disponível para o Tiny Core Plus 31 bits, o melhor é usar outro tocador de áudio e vídeo.

Juanito, qual seria o player de vídeo e áudio para substituir o vlc3.tcz que não atrapalhe o som do Firefox? o objetivo é poder usar um ou outro e ter o som sempre funcionando.

Agradeço por sempre me ajudarem.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 08, 2020, 06:18:40 PM

Please disregard the text posted at 02:27:29 PM, correct and complete text is posted at 03:12:28 PM. Thankful.

------------------

Por favor desconsiderem o texto postado às 02:27:29 PM, texto correto e completo está postado às 03:12:28 PM. Grato.

Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 08, 2020, 08:35:09 PM
Hi marcelocripe
Please disregard the text posted at 02:27:29 PM, correct and complete text is posted at 03:12:28 PM. Thankful.
Extra post removed.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on April 08, 2020, 11:06:44 PM
Hi marcelocripe
Most Linux distros have a persistent file system (/bin, /dev, /etc, /home, /lib, ..... ). When packages get installed, their files get copied
to  /usr (/usr/local/bin, /usr/local/lib, ..... ).

Tinycore is different. The file system gets created from scratch every time you boot. This diagram may help:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/architecture.html

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When shutting down the computer, do the extension files in the options downloaded in Download or Download + Load mode and their dependencies are lost or deleted or remain in the optional folder?
No, extensions are always saved in your  tce/optional  directory.

Extensions listed in your  onboot.lst  file get installed from your  tce/optional  directory every time you boot.
OnBoot  =  Extension gets saved in  tce/optional,  added to your  onboot.lst  file, and then installed.
Download + Load  =  Extension gets saved in  tce/optional  and then installed.
Download Only  =  Extension gets saved in  tce/optional.
Apps->Load App Locally  =  Extension that is already in  tce/optional  gets installed.

Installing (also known as loading) Involves loop mounting the  .tcz  which is in your  tce/optional  directory to a mount point in the
/tmp/tcloop  directory. The loop mount consumes a few hundred bytes of RAM. The files in  /tmp/tcloop/ExtensionName  get linked
into  /usr.  Each link consumes between 40 and 60 bytes of RAM.  The programs in the extensions do not consume any RAM until
you run them. When the program exits, the RAM is available for other uses.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 09, 2020, 01:41:58 AM
Juanito, what would be the video and audio player to replace vlc3.tcz that does not disturb the sound of Firefox? the goal is to be able to use one or the other and have the sound always working.

If you want to be sure if an application works or not in tinycore, you can boot without loading any extensions and without restoring a back up - this is done with the boot codes "base" "norestore" - and you will boot to a console prompt.

At the console prompt:
Code: [Select]
$ tce-load -i graphics-KERNEL alsa-config Xorg-7.7-3d flwm aterm wbar
$ startx

Then in the gui, open an aterm window and:
Code: [Select]
$ tce-load -i pavucontrol adwaita-icon-theme
[click on the pavucontrol icon and check it opens]
$ tce-load -i firefox
[click on the firefox icon and check that it plays a video]
$ tce-load -i vlc3
[click on the vlc icon and check that it plays a video]

I just tried this and everything worked as expected.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on April 09, 2020, 02:48:53 AM
If you do not configure it from the kernel distribution, you may be experiencing conflict problems.

Core
(11 MB)   Core is the base system which provides only a command line interface and is therefore recommended for experienced users only. Command line tools are provided so that extensions can be added to create a system with a graphical desktop environment. Ideal for servers, appliances, and custom desktops.


[does not include wifi configuration]
tc@box:~$ tce-load -wi alsa pavucontrol htop windowshot vlc3 ezremaster xfe firefox_getLatest aterm wbar

tc@box:~$ startx

[when it comes to desktop]  tc@box:~$ startx

Find and run "firefox_getLatest" with xfe.

! Try to use ezremaster for iso configuration

Rico, Xor, Juanito.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 15, 2020, 06:14:33 PM
Rich,

Muito obrigado por suas explicações, graças a sua ajuda eu consegui compreender melhor a forma de como funciona o Tiny Core Linux.

Juanito e Xor, eu testei todos os comandos que vocês me ensinaram, mas infelizmente foram sem sucesso, o vlc3.tcz é carregado no menu, após clicar sobre o ícone do vlc3, o programa abre e em seguida fecha muito rápido. De qualquer forma agradeço por vocês compartilharem o seus conhecimentos.

Após eu fazer vários testes, eu acredito que será melhor usar outro player, já que não consegui fazer o áudio funcionar no Firefox 74.0 (firefox.tcz) e funcionar no vlc3.tcz, peço de ajuda para fazer funcionar com outro player que execute arquivos de vídeo e áudio.

Grato.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.

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Rich,

Muito obrigado por suas explicações, graças a sua ajuda eu consegui compreender melhor a forma de como funciona o Tiny Core Linux.

Juanito e Xor, eu testei todos os comandos que vocês me ensinaram, mas infelizmente foram sem sucesso, o vlc3.tcz é carregado no menu, após clicar sobre o ícone do vlc3, o programa abre e em seguida fecha muito rápido. De qualquer forma agradeço por vocês compartilharem o seus conhecimentos.

Após eu fazer vários testes, eu acredito que será melhor usar outro player, já que não consegui fazer o áudio funcionar no Firefox 74.0 (firefox.tcz) e funcionar no vlc3.tcz, peço de ajuda para fazer funcionar com outro player que execute arquivos de vídeo e áudio.

Grato.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on April 23, 2020, 01:34:46 PM
I received your shipment a little late.

At least 1 GB of RAM is required for modern applications.
From multi media applications under 1gb ram
do not raise your expectation too much.

my personal system contains a 4GB RAM configuration on AMD;

TCL 11.1 Core-11.1.iso  http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/release/Core-11.1.iso
tc@box:~$ tce-load -wi Xorg-7.7-3d firmware-radeon xf86-video-ati windowmaker alsa-config alsa pavucontrol htop windowshot vlc3 ezremaster xfe firefox_getLatest aterm wbar

Even if the video card drivers are wrong, if you adjust the sound settings according to the visuals, the analog sound should come!

but this only works on my (on my system) TCL 11.1 without any command. !

(http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=22764.0;attach=5220)
(http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23699.0;attach=5295)

Rich,

Muito obrigado por suas explicações, graças a sua ajuda eu consegui compreender melhor a forma de como funciona o Tiny Core Linux.

Juanito e Xor, eu testei todos os comandos que vocês me ensinaram, mas infelizmente foram sem sucesso, o vlc3.tcz é carregado no menu, após clicar sobre o ícone do vlc3, o programa abre e em seguida fecha muito rápido. De qualquer forma agradeço por vocês compartilharem o seus conhecimentos.

Após eu fazer vários testes, eu acredito que será melhor usar outro player, já que não consegui fazer o áudio funcionar no Firefox 74.0 (firefox.tcz) e funcionar no vlc3.tcz, peço de ajuda para fazer funcionar com outro player que execute arquivos de vídeo e áudio.

Grato.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.

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Rich,

Muito obrigado por suas explicações, graças a sua ajuda eu consegui compreender melhor a forma de como funciona o Tiny Core Linux.

Juanito e Xor, eu testei todos os comandos que vocês me ensinaram, mas infelizmente foram sem sucesso, o vlc3.tcz é carregado no menu, após clicar sobre o ícone do vlc3, o programa abre e em seguida fecha muito rápido. De qualquer forma agradeço por vocês compartilharem o seus conhecimentos.

Após eu fazer vários testes, eu acredito que será melhor usar outro player, já que não consegui fazer o áudio funcionar no Firefox 74.0 (firefox.tcz) e funcionar no vlc3.tcz, peço de ajuda para fazer funcionar com outro player que execute arquivos de vídeo e áudio.

Grato.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: aus9 on April 23, 2020, 07:33:47 PM
Hey guys

those images will be a lot easier to understand if you load an icon theme that has the icons

Code: [Select]
$ tce-load -i adwaita-icon-theme
image shows correct icon for one tab of pavucontrol
https://imgur.com/ceL6Onl

@Juanito
on 64 bit, pavucontrol has no dep of that icon theme. Maybe?
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on April 27, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
I would like to express my sincere thanks to colleagues Xor, Rich and Juanito for all the help with computer audio that did not work with Tiny Core Plus version 11.0 32-bit.

I installed in OnBoot mode: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz and pavucontrol.tcz. For the audio to work, you must always click on the button that enables the sound (or mute button), vary the volume control bar by increasing or decreasing the volume of pavucontrol.tcz for the audio to work. Unfortunately I was unable to understand how to configure the scripted boot on Tiny Core Plus 32 bits to start with the volume working.

The audio worked on the Firefox 74.0 internet browser on Youtube and at the same time with mplayer-cli.tcz, yes, I played YouTube and mplayer-cli at the same time, now all I need to do is find a music player (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma, etc.).

Thank you so much for always helping me.

marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google Translate.

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Eu gostaria de registrar os meus sinceros agradecimentos aos colegas Xor, Rich e ao Juanito por toda ajuda no áudio do computador que não funcionava com no Tiny Core Plus versão 11.0 32-bit.

Instalei no modo OnBoot: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz e pavucontrol.tcz. Para o áudio funcionar é preciso sempre clicar sobre o botão que habilita o som (ou botão mudo), variar a barra de controle de volume aumentando ou diminuindo o volume do pavucontrol.tcz para o áudio funcionar. Infelizmente eu não consegui compreender como configurar o boot com script no Tiny Core Plus 32 bits para iniciar com o volume funcionando.   

O áudio funcionou no navegador de internet Firefox 74.0 no Youtube e ao mesmo tempo com o mplayer-cli.tcz, sim, executei ao mesmo tempo o Youtube e o mplayer-cli, agora só falta encontrar um tocador de música (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma e etc).

Muito obrigado por sempre me ajudarem.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on April 28, 2020, 12:00:43 AM
11.0 (there are problems with sound)

TCL 11.1 Core-11.1.iso  http://tinycorelinux.net/11.x/x86/release/Core-11.1.iso

are you installing
or do you have a run project on iso!

before i created ezremaster iso
Add to opened directories in temp
then I give iso command and then iso.

I create iso with "ezre master".

I would like to express my sincere thanks to colleagues Xor, Rich and Juanito for all the help with computer audio that did not work with Tiny Core Plus version 11.0 32-bit.

I installed in OnBoot mode: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz and pavucontrol.tcz. For the audio to work, you must always click on the button that enables the sound (or mute button), vary the volume control bar by increasing or decreasing the volume of pavucontrol.tcz for the audio to work. Unfortunately I was unable to understand how to configure the scripted boot on Tiny Core Plus 32 bits to start with the volume working.

The audio worked on the Firefox 74.0 internet browser on Youtube and at the same time with mplayer-cli.tcz, yes, I played YouTube and mplayer-cli at the same time, now all I need to do is find a music player (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma, etc.).

Thank you so much for always helping me.

marcelocripe

Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google Translate.

---------------------

Eu gostaria de registrar os meus sinceros agradecimentos aos colegas Xor, Rich e ao Juanito por toda ajuda no áudio do computador que não funcionava com no Tiny Core Plus versão 11.0 32-bit.

Instalei no modo OnBoot: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz e pavucontrol.tcz. Para o áudio funcionar é preciso sempre clicar sobre o botão que habilita o som (ou botão mudo), variar a barra de controle de volume aumentando ou diminuindo o volume do pavucontrol.tcz para o áudio funcionar. Infelizmente eu não consegui compreender como configurar o boot com script no Tiny Core Plus 32 bits para iniciar com o volume funcionando.   

O áudio funcionou no navegador de internet Firefox 74.0 no Youtube e ao mesmo tempo com o mplayer-cli.tcz, sim, executei ao mesmo tempo o Youtube e o mplayer-cli, agora só falta encontrar um tocador de música (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma e etc).

Muito obrigado por sempre me ajudarem.

marcelocripe

Texto original em português do Brasil, tradução para inglês por Google Tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on April 28, 2020, 01:39:33 AM
I installed in OnBoot mode: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz and pavucontrol.tcz.
Not a big deal, but you only need to list alsa-config and pavucontrol "onboot", pavucontrol will load alsa.

Quote
now all I need to do is find a music player (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma, etc.).
For a simple music player, you could try xmms-pulse (use <ctrl-p> to bring up the config menu and choose pulseaudio as the output) or, for something more complicated, rhythmbox.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on May 05, 2020, 12:30:34 PM
I installed in OnBoot mode: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz and pavucontrol.tcz.
Not a big deal, but you only need to list alsa-config and pavucontrol "onboot", pavucontrol will load alsa.

Quote
now all I need to do is find a music player (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma, etc.).
For a simple music player, you could try xmms-pulse (use <ctrl-p> to bring up the config menu and choose pulseaudio as the output) or, for something more complicated, rhythmbox.

Juanito,

Any and all help or information is always very welcome.

This will help me to set up Tiny Core startup with just the basics and what is really needed.

Thankful.

Original text in Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.

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Juanito,

Toda e qualquer ajuda ou informação é sempre muito bem vinda.

Isso vai me ajuda a configurar inicialização do Tiny Core apenas com o que for básico e que realmente seja necessário.

Grato.

Texto original em português, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on May 06, 2020, 09:20:36 AM
I installed in OnBoot mode: alsaconfig.tcz, alsa.tcz and pavucontrol.tcz.
Not a big deal, but you only need to list alsa-config and pavucontrol "onboot", pavucontrol will load alsa.

Quote
now all I need to do is find a music player (mp3, aac, flac, ogg, wma, etc.).
For a simple music player, you could try xmms-pulse (use <ctrl-p> to bring up the config menu and choose pulseaudio as the output) or, for something more complicated, rhythmbox.


Juanito,

I downloaded and installed xmms.tcz, in the configuration menu I selected "ALSA 1.2.11 output plugin [libALSA.so]" as the output and it worked perfectly.

Thank you.

Original text in Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
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Juanito,

Baixei e instalei xmms.tcz, no menu de configuração selecionei "ALSA 1.2.11 output plugin [libALSA.so]" como saída e funcionou perfeitamente.

Muito obrigado.

Texto original em português, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on May 07, 2020, 01:46:14 PM


1476/5000
I am reading your messages
I find it more logical to answer in general.

I'm not a developer,
as someone who only uses TCL
for the solution of the problems experienced
I am writing bug reports to the forum.

I am writing with google translation like you,
English is not my mother tongue!

to use the language translation engine in a universal way;
There are 2 basic rules.

Rule number 1 - correctly defining an expression in one line
Rule number 2 - to the end of each line; If (.) or (,) is placed,
the translation engine translates better.

If the main subject is returned;

TCL is one of the best linux distributions I've been looking for for many years,
but the development process is more efficient with a kind of compatibility process.

my personal comment;
as desktop interface
"windowmaker" works more efficiently
(its own bar plugin is more compatible) but not compatible with WBAR,
these can be developed over time.

Localized exfat support is important especially in new versions of the kernel.

TCL 12 or above may have the desired maturity.

For now, I do not think TCL 11.1 fully meets realistic expectations.

a structure that works especially on the ram disk
especially in data writing processes on USB or SD card
Since the limiting structure of FAT32 does not provide the desired comfort completely
I think that TCL will be stronger with exfat support. :)

in this respect, ezremaster update
It will be more logical to prepare for TCL 12 series.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: aus9 on May 07, 2020, 10:11:31 PM
@xor
I appreciate online translation can be misleading.

Why discuss USB file format to marcelocripe?

Why discuss windowmaker to marcelocripe?

Why at reply number 21....do you discuss "Core" when subject of this thread says
"32-bit Tiny Core Plus"?

Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: aus9 on May 07, 2020, 10:21:06 PM
@marcelocripe

I will be rude, and tell you....you are not forced to use firefox as a web browser.

You are not forced to use vlc media player.

There are alternatives.

Quote
By any chance, if I tell you the make and model of the chip or the name of the drive that Windows used on the computer / notebook, does it make it easier?

The terms used by Linux differ from Windows.  Please tell us your chip make and model.

If you still have trouble with sound please copy and paste commands and post results in a code box.

Code: [Select]
lsmod | grep snd
lspci | grep Audio
aplay -l

and if you are having trouble with sound...
How do you want sound?
Describe if sound must come out of laptop speakers, TV speakers, desktop speakers, headphones.

Describe the cable connecting speakers.  HDMI or 3.5mm line or headphone cable.

Pulseaudio gives users the chance to swap sound devices on the fly.
As xor points out....pavucontrol is very useful for pulseaudio users,
but only if they load adwaita-icon-theme too.

If you know you only need sound from HDMI or only from analog, Alsa can be useful.

Sound for firefox does need pulsaudio set up as per its info file.

Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: aus9 on May 07, 2020, 11:05:21 PM
I forgot to mention, you can also have sound coming from an USB sound device.

I forgot to mention that Rich has already linked to the pulseaudio info file in an earlier post.

and I forgot to ask, in case vlc is too big for you...

what are the file types you want to play please?

eg .mp4
.mp3
.wav
.ogg
.wma
.wmv

etc
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on May 08, 2020, 02:44:10 AM
@xor
I appreciate online translation can be misleading.

Why discuss USB file format to marcelocripe?

Why discuss windowmaker to marcelocripe?

Why at reply number 21....do you discuss "Core" when subject of this thread says
"32-bit Tiny Core Plus"?

each user's request may be different.
It is important for a system developer to be more sensitive to common requests.
It is not true to say that I know best.
Someone who already knows linux commands generally may not prefer desktop.
however, standard applications may not be useful for everyone.

wbar is a copy of apple.
Macos had a windowmaker before.
  sony playstation2 (32 MB RAM) linuxta windowmaker is used.
In this respect, if visual elements are desired in proposing a minimalist operating system, the windowmaker may be a good choice.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on May 08, 2020, 03:00:21 AM
Please stop trolling this thread - your comments are not relevant to audio
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on May 08, 2020, 04:38:49 AM
troll post removed
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: marcelocripe on May 14, 2020, 12:23:28 PM
@xor
I appreciate online translation can be misleading.

Why discuss USB file format to marcelocripe?

Why discuss windowmaker to marcelocripe?

Why at reply number 21....do you discuss "Core" when subject of this thread says
"32-bit Tiny Core Plus"?

Xor responded to me in general and included content from other conversations or posts on this forum. Unfortunately, this is why it does not make sense to other colleagues.

Perhaps it has complemented content from other posts, such as: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23854.msg149902.html#msg149902, http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php /topic,23630.msg148792.html#msg148792 e.

I download it manually at https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/11.x/x86/tcz/ of the extensions and other dependencies necessary for a program to work on other computers without internet access. Or I download the extensions and other dependencies necessary for a program to be able to work with a Tiny Core installed on the HD or via a bootable USB stick with Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits. It is not feasible to download and install programs via the Internet for those who manage one or more computer networks using Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits.

Remastering Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits is not the best way for me to be able to work on two different computer networks located at different addresses with limited or bad internet access.

About your comment:

"@ marcelocripe

I will be rude, and tell you .... you are not forced to use firefox as a web browser.

You are not forced to use vlc media player.

There are alternatives. "[/ I]


I tested the opera and chromium available for Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits and both are extremely outdated, which makes navigation and usability unviable, similar to what happens with old Linux distributions with an old browser.

I tested firefox_getLatest.tcz, this extension downloads the latest version, unzips and automatically creates a compilation of Firefox 76.0 for Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits. I congratulate the creator of this extension.

I also tested epiphany.tcz, reported the failures at the link: http: //forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23750.msg149807.html#msg149807, even after the changes made by Mr. Juanito, the epiphany.tcz remains unstable.

As I had posted on April 27, 2020, I managed to make the audio work thanks to the help of colleagues, and even with some more precious words from Mr. Juanito, I managed to further optimize the startup of Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits, because any and all help is always very welcome. I will still do the tests with the code that you were kind enough to teach me.

"Code: [Select]
lsmod | grep snd
lspci | grep Audio
aplay -l "[/ i]

As it is the sound of different computers and notebooks, the audio must come out of speakers or headphones for both, as I will not know how these computers and notebooks received due to donations or due to disposal will be used.

I need to make computers and notebooks running simultaneously for the latest and most stable internet browser, plus one or two programs to play video and music for .mp4, .avi, .mov, .mp3, .wav, .ogg files , .wma,
.wmv. I tried to use vlc.tcz, but it worked while firefox had no audio, when firefox started having audio, vlc no longer opened.

On Mr. Xor's comment:

"each user's request may be different.
It is important for a system developer to be more sensitive to common requests.
It is not true to say that I know best.
Someone who already knows linux commands generally may not prefer desktop.
however, standard applications may not be useful for everyone. "

I fit in with those who have great difficulties in getting everything to work in text mode, the command prompt keeps laypersons away and limits the number of users that any operating system. I didn't have opportunities in the Linux world, I'm having it now, not everything is explained in a clear and precise way in the Tiny Core Plus 11 32-bit documentation, because whoever knows about a certain subject, sometimes writes as if everyone would understand with just a few words or few explanations.

Questions about the programs contained in the Tiny Core Plus 11 32-bit wbar I posted on the link: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23854.msg149902.html#msg149902, I still have doubts on this menu and on another when we click on the desktop.

In addition, I am grateful to everyone who has been helping me make Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bit usable by any basic computer user.
  

Thankful.
marcelocripe

Original text in Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.

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Aus9,

O Xor respondeu para mim de uma forma geral e incluiu conteúdos de outras conversas ou postagens deste fórum. Infelizmente, é por isso não faz sentido para os demais colegas.

Talvez ele tenha complementado conteúdo de outras postagens, como por exemplo: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23854.msg149902.html#msg149902,  http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23630.msg148792.html#msg148792 e .

É que eu faço o download manualmente no site https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/11.x/x86/tcz/ das extensões e as demais dependências necessárias para um programa poder funcionar em outros computadores sem acesso a internet. Ou faço o download das extensões e as demais dependências necessárias para um programa poder funcionar com um Tiny Core instalado no HD ou via pendrive inicializável com Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits. É inviável baixar e instalar via internet programas para quem administra uma ou mais rede de computadores que utilizam o Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits.

Remasterizar o Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits não é a melhor forma para eu poder trabalhar em duas redes de computadores diferentes e localizadas em endereços diferentes com acesso a internet ruim ou limitado.

Sobre seu comentário:

"@marcelocripe

I will be rude, and tell you....you are not forced to use firefox as a web browser.

You are not forced to use vlc media player.

There are alternatives."



Eu testei o opera e chromium disponíveis para o Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits e ambos estão extremamente desatualizados, o que torna a navegação e usabilidade inviáveis, semelhante ao que ocorre com distribuições Linux antigas com navegador antigo.

Eu testei o firefox_getLatest.tcz, esta extensão baixa a versão mais recente, descompacta e cria uma compilação automaticamente do Firefox 76.0 para Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits. Parabenizo o criador desta extensão.

Eu testei, também, o epiphany.tcz, reportei as falhas no link:http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23750.msg149807.html#msg149807, mesmo após as alterações feitas pelo senhor Juanito, o epiphany.tcz permanece instável.

Como eu havia postado no dia 27 de abril de 2020, eu consegui fazer o áudio funcionar graças as ajudas dos colegas, e ainda com mais algumas palavras preciosas do senhor Juanito, consegui otimizar ainda mais a inicialização do Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits, pois toda e qualquer ajuda é sempre muito bem vinda. Mesmo assim eu irei fazer os testes com o código que você fez a gentileza de me ensinar.

"Código: [Selecionar]
lsmod | grep snd
lspci | grep Audio
aplay -l"


Como trata-se de o som de computadores e notebook diferentes, o áudio deve sair em alto-falantes ou fone de ouvido para ambos, pois eu não saberei como serão utilizados estes computadores e notebook recebidos devido a doações ou devido ao descarte.

Eu preciso disponibilizar os computadores e notebook com áudio funcionando simultaneamente para o navegador de internet mais recente e mais estável e ainda um ou dois programas tocar vídeo e música para arquivos .mp4, .avi, .mov, .mp3, .wav, .ogg, .wma, 
.wmv. Eu tentei utilizar o vlc.tcz, mas funcionou enquanto o firefox não tinha áudio, quando o firefox passou a ter áudio, o vlc não abria mais.

Sobre o comentário do senhor Xor:

"each user's request may be different.
It is important for a system developer to be more sensitive to common requests.
It is not true to say that I know best.
Someone who already knows linux commands generally may not prefer desktop.
however, standard applications may not be useful for everyone."

Eu me enquadro nos que possuem grandes dificuldades de conseguir fazer tudo funcionar no modo texto, o prompt de comando afasta os leigos e limitam a quantidade de utilizadores que qualquer sistema operacional. Eu não tive oportunidades no mundo Linux, estou tendo agora, nem tudo é explicado de forma clara e precisa na documentação do Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits, porque quem conhece sobre um determinado assunto, por vezes escreve como se todos fossem compreender com apenas poucas palavras ou poucas explicações.

Dúvidas sobre os programas contidos no wbar do Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits eu postei no link: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23854.msg149902.html#msg149902, ainda possuo dúvidas neste menu e no outro quando clicamos no desktop.

No mais, eu sou grato a todos que vem me ajudando a fazer o Tiny Core Plus 11 32 bits ser utilizável por qualquer usuário básico de computador.
 

Grato.
marcelocripe

Texto original em português, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: aus9 on May 14, 2020, 09:08:11 PM
sorry you have bad or no internet.

If you said no internet, I would have asked why bother with a web browser.

Quote
I tried to use vlc.tcz, but it worked while firefox had no audio, when firefox started having audio, vlc no longer opened.

This suggests you have set up pulseaudio (=PA) as all modern versions of firefox need PA correctly set up to have sound.

So, in vlc you should be able to go in and change the setting from automatic to PA  and regain sound?

There are some steps you can take to ensure on reboot, PA and vlc work correctly.
You do not need to do all these steps. I offer them as a guide when sound no longer works as expected.

Test 1  Test dbus is running
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/usr/local/etc/init.d/dbus statusONLY if it is  "not running" then restart it.
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sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/init.d/dbus statusOutput should now show dbus is running.
Stopping dbus will kill pulseaudio so leave it alone,
if it is running already please

Test 2  Test pulseaudio is running.
It is hard to explain via online translation,
that pulseaudio can be run a local user or system wide.

I will assume you have made no changes from the info file for pulseaudio, which means you are running PA as system wide mode.

Code: [Select]
pulseaudio -vv
SNIP out all extra lines and last lines read below
E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.

The last 2 lines are a successful test.
The E stands for Error but the message reads daemon already running
pid file creation fails because the pid file was created by your setup working.

Test 3 VLC is using analog device
vlc -> pulldown Audio  -> Audio Device -> Choose Analog not HDMI
image may help?
https://imgur.com/1HCGl1m

Test 4 VLC is forced to use pulseaudio
vlc 
Hold down Ctrl key and press p -> brings up the vlc simple preferences dialog
Click the Audio button at top
Pulldown the Output mode   and select pulseaudio  and click on save
image may help
https://imgur.com/3w6tuam




Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Juanito on May 15, 2020, 01:24:25 AM
I also tested epiphany.tcz, reported the failures at the link: http: //forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23750.msg149807.html#msg149807, even after the changes made by Mr. Juanito, the epiphany.tcz remains unstable.

Epiphany and other browsers such as midori rely on webkitgtk - webkitgtk4 updated in the x86, x86_64 and armv7 repos.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: xor on May 15, 2020, 03:02:04 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Kelikaku on February 25, 2022, 04:25:34 PM
To configure and test audio:
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$ tce-load -i alsa-config
$ tce-load -i alsa
$ alsamixer [check that your audio is not muted]
$ speaker-test -c2 -t wav -l1 [you may need speaker-test -Ddefault:1 -c2 -t wav -l1]
I have both a Sony VAIO PCG-6141L laptop and a Dell Dimension 4700 tower with the exact same situation - there is no sound.  Will these instructions work with one, the other or even both?
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: Rich on February 25, 2022, 04:33:17 PM
Hi Kelikaku
Yes, that should work. The extensions need to be loaded in the order listed.
Title: Re: Computer audio does not work with 32-bit Tiny Core Plus version 11.0.
Post by: vinceASPECT on February 26, 2022, 10:12:59 AM
Hello Forum,

Could it be that the MIXER just has the audio muted?

alsamixer?

Run it at the terminal
type

$tcl...........alsamixer


the "spacebar" can "unmute" or maybe the "m" key

Thx
C.