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Title: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on August 01, 2019, 12:49:07 AM
Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 01, 2019, 09:01:12 AM
Hello xor

It was never the intention to keep ESR version updated since ESR means Extended Service Release (iirc).  The point of providing an ESR version is to provide a basic browser to download from the repo

I don’t recommend the use of ESR version in any case.    firefox_getLatest doesn’t need an existing Firefox installation to update, better to get latest version initially then use firefox_getLatest each month to get the latest and greatest version.

firefox_getLatest is flexible, the scrip is already capable of getting the latest ESR version or any Firefox version you desire.

Code: [Select]
firefox_getLatest.sh -h for more info




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Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on August 01, 2019, 11:42:03 AM
Hello xor

It was never the intention to keep ESR version updated since ESR means Extended Service Release (iirc).  The point of providing an ESR version is to provide a basic browser to download from the repo

I don’t recommend the use of ESR version in any case.    firefox_getLatest doesn’t need an existing Firefox installation to update, better to get latest version initially then use firefox_getLatest each month to get the latest and greatest version.

firefox_getLatest is flexible, the scrip is already capable of getting the latest ESR version or any Firefox version you desire.

Code: [Select]
firefox_getLatest.sh -h for more info

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In iso format, I use TCL via sd-card. (I don't use HDD or SSD)

"Firefox ESR" sounds more secure
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 01, 2019, 12:04:54 PM

In iso format, I use TCL via sd-card. (I don't use HDD or SSD)
Sorry I don't understand why the storage medium makes a difference..?


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"Firefox ESR" sounds more secure
On the contrary, ESR is less secure than the latest version of regular Firefox
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: neonix on August 01, 2019, 12:33:59 PM
It would be good to have firefox-ESR.tcz (version 60) ready to download in the repo for beginner users. In this way TC will be more popular. Some new guys may not know how to use firefox_getLatest.sh
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 01, 2019, 05:46:24 PM
It would be good to have firefox-ESR.tcz (version 60) ready to download in the repo for beginner users. In this way TC will be more popular. Some new guys may not know how to use firefox_getLatest.sh
Hey Neonix   Are you aware firefox-ESR.tcz is available for download from the repo for new tc’ers not familiar with firefox_getLatest.tcz ?


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Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: neonix on August 02, 2019, 10:39:08 AM
In T
It would be good to have firefox-ESR.tcz (version 60) ready to download in the repo for beginner users. In this way TC will be more popular. Some new guys may not know how to use firefox_getLatest.sh
Hey Neonix   Are you aware firefox-ESR.tcz is available for download from the repo for new tc’ers not familiar with firefox_getLatest.tcz ?


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Yes. In TC10 32-bit and 64-bit ther is firefox-ESR 52.1.2 but the latest ESR version is 68. I don't think many users will need FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz becouse having ready do install version is much more handy. But if there is a volunteer that will create FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz I also be happy.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: coreplayer2 on August 03, 2019, 01:01:21 PM
Yes. In TC10 32-bit and 64-bit ther is firefox-ESR 52.1.2 but the latest ESR version is 68. I don't think many users will need FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz because having ready do install version is much more handy.
OK so I can update the current repo versions, I am about a year behind on that, my bad.

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having ready do install version is much more handy
This is the only reason Firefox-ESR.tcz exists, for those new users who didn't yet understand  the versatility of firefox_getLatest.tcz.   In my vision ESR versions were never intended to be used indefinitely or frequently updated.   Thereafter It's up to the individual to use firefox_getLatest to get the latest version features and security fixes.

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But if there is a volunteer that will create FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz I also be happy.
Are you aware that firefox_getLatest in manual mode can download and install the latest ESR or beta version as well as any prior published versions you desire?  Additionally, If anyone requires to install the latest Firefox-ESR "enterprise" version this can also be achieved using the interactive mode of " firefox_getLatest " extension
Code: [Select]
firefox_getLatest.sh -m
Simply enter the version required, eg: " 68.0.1esr "
Code: [Select]
Repo in use: http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz
 TCE directory in use: /mnt/sdb3/tc10-x86/optional
 sdb3 has: 12602 MB free space remaining
=======================================================================================================================================================================================

 Fetching dependencies..
 Verifying connection to server, please wait...
 connection ok

 Enter exact version requested.
 For example to download version 34.0.5 simply type

  34.0.5

 at the prompt, then select enter: 68.0.1esr

 ;)
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on August 22, 2019, 01:56:11 PM
Yes. In TC10 32-bit and 64-bit ther is firefox-ESR 52.1.2 but the latest ESR version is 68. I don't think many users will need FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz because having ready do install version is much more handy.
OK so I can update the current repo versions, I am about a year behind on that, my bad.

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having ready do install version is much more handy
This is the only reason Firefox-ESR.tcz exists, for those new users who didn't yet understand  the versatility of firefox_getLatest.tcz.   In my vision ESR versions were never intended to be used indefinitely or frequently updated.   Thereafter It's up to the individual to use firefox_getLatest to get the latest version features and security fixes.

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But if there is a volunteer that will create FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz I also be happy.
Are you aware that firefox_getLatest in manual mode can download and install the latest ESR or beta version as well as any prior published versions you desire?  Additionally, If anyone requires to install the latest Firefox-ESR "enterprise" version this can also be achieved using the interactive mode of " firefox_getLatest " extension
Code: [Select]
firefox_getLatest.sh -m
Simply enter the version required, eg: " 68.0.1esr "
Code: [Select]
Repo in use: http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz
 TCE directory in use: /mnt/sdb3/tc10-x86/optional
 sdb3 has: 12602 MB free space remaining
=======================================================================================================================================================================================

 Fetching dependencies..
 Verifying connection to server, please wait...
 connection ok

 Enter exact version requested.
 For example to download version 34.0.5 simply type

  34.0.5

 at the prompt, then select enter: 68.0.1esr

 ;)

There is a concept called user habit.
MicroSoft knows this job very well :)

I hate the keyboard command, :(
WYSIWYG style is simple, clicking with the mouse :-)
less keyboard theme, easier Linux, :) :D
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 05, 2020, 02:01:39 PM
please; except for the command line; for desktop, in mouse options; Can you offer the Firefox-ESR download option! ?

thanks for your effort in advance. :)


Yes. In TC10 32-bit and 64-bit ther is firefox-ESR 52.1.2 but the latest ESR version is 68. I don't think many users will need FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz because having ready do install version is much more handy.
OK so I can update the current repo versions, I am about a year behind on that, my bad.

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having ready do install version is much more handy
This is the only reason Firefox-ESR.tcz exists, for those new users who didn't yet understand  the versatility of firefox_getLatest.tcz.   In my vision ESR versions were never intended to be used indefinitely or frequently updated.   Thereafter It's up to the individual to use firefox_getLatest to get the latest version features and security fixes.

Quote
But if there is a volunteer that will create FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz I also be happy.
Are you aware that firefox_getLatest in manual mode can download and install the latest ESR or beta version as well as any prior published versions you desire?  Additionally, If anyone requires to install the latest Firefox-ESR "enterprise" version this can also be achieved using the interactive mode of " firefox_getLatest " extension
Code: [Select]
firefox_getLatest.sh -m
Simply enter the version required, eg: " 68.0.1esr "
Code: [Select]
Repo in use: http://repo.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz
 TCE directory in use: /mnt/sdb3/tc10-x86/optional
 sdb3 has: 12602 MB free space remaining
=======================================================================================================================================================================================

 Fetching dependencies..
 Verifying connection to server, please wait...
 connection ok

 Enter exact version requested.
 For example to download version 34.0.5 simply type

  34.0.5

 at the prompt, then select enter: 68.0.1esr

 ;)
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 05, 2020, 03:07:24 PM
Hi xor
...  Can you offer the Firefox-ESR download option! ? ...
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz/firefox-ESR.tcz.info
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/firefox-ESR.tcz.info
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 06, 2020, 02:39:03 AM
Google translation does not translate what I wrote correctly, I think!

Firefox_getLatest.tcz works fine,
but in desktop mouse options
FirefoxESR does not have an automatic download option.
Must be this option in Firefox_getLatest.tcz
(this should be added to the "desktop" "mouse" "menu" option)

or a new FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz plug-in must be created.

Hi xor
...  Can you offer the Firefox-ESR download option! ? ...
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz/firefox-ESR.tcz.info
http://www.tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/firefox-ESR.tcz.info
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 06, 2020, 10:02:55 AM
Hi xor
... FirefoxESR does not have an automatic download option. ...
I don't know what you mean by that. This will get you the ESR that we have:
Code: [Select]
tce-load -wi firefox-ESR
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 07, 2020, 04:22:57 AM
Hi xor
... FirefoxESR does not have an automatic download option. ...
I don't know what you mean by that. This will get you the ESR that we have:
Code: [Select]
tce-load -wi firefox-ESR

what I would like to say !

mouse> 2. key options

To download the latest version of FF-ESR
for an automatic option to arrive

esr_getlatest.tcz
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 07, 2020, 12:06:58 PM
Hi xor
... To download the latest version of FF-ESR...
Attached is a script that downloads  firefox_getLatest.tcz, unpacks it, modifies it to fetch the latest FF ESR, and packages
it as  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz

Download the attached file and then:
Code: [Select]
chmod 775 Makefirefox_getLatestESRtcz
./Makefirefox_getLatestESRtcz
cp firefox_getLatestESR/firefox_getLatestESR.tcz /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
echo "firefox_getLatestESR.tcz" >> /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst
rm -rf firefox_getLatestESR
tce-load -i firefox_getLatestESR

Your desktop menu should now have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.

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for an automatic option to arrive
Did you mean  automatic update ?  If you want to update Firefox, you need to run  firefox_getLatestESR  again.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 08, 2020, 05:31:48 AM
Desktop >>
                Right click >>
                                  menu>>
                                                [ * firefox_getLatest (download)       ]
                                                [  * firefoxESR_getLatest (download) ]
 
I want the Download latest version option to appear in the mouse menu.
I hope this time it was understood correctly.


Hi xor
... To download the latest version of FF-ESR...
Attached is a script that downloads  firefox_getLatest.tcz, unpacks it, modifies it to fetch the latest FF ESR, and packages
it as  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz

Download the attached file and then:
Code: [Select]
chmod 775 Makefirefox_getLatestESRtcz
./Makefirefox_getLatestESRtcz
cp firefox_getLatestESR/firefox_getLatestESR.tcz /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
echo "firefox_getLatestESR.tcz" >> /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst
rm -rf firefox_getLatestESR
tce-load -i firefox_getLatestESR

Your desktop menu should now have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.

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for an automatic option to arrive
Did you mean  automatic update ?  If you want to update Firefox, you need to run  firefox_getLatestESR  again.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 08, 2020, 08:06:07 AM
Hi xor
Desktop >>
                Right click >>
                                  menu>>
                                                [ * firefox_getLatest (download)       ]
                                                [  * firefoxESR_getLatest (download) ]
 
I want the Download latest version option to appear in the mouse menu.
I hope this time it was understood correctly.

Did you follow the instructions I gave you? If you did, then:
Your desktop menu should now have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.
If you click on that, it should download the latest Firefox ESR. Did you try it?
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 08, 2020, 12:58:14 PM
a standard option that should be;

I don't want to use it in a personalized way.

what i want; I want this feature to be standard in the * .TCZ file.

http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz

this feature should be a standard feature!

!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!

please update this by adding this feature to * .tcz files

Hi xor
Desktop >>
                Right click >>
                                  menu>>
                                                [ * firefox_getLatest (download)       ]
                                                [  * firefoxESR_getLatest (download) ]
 
I want the Download latest version option to appear in the mouse menu.
I hope this time it was understood correctly.

Did you follow the instructions I gave you? If you did, then:
Your desktop menu should now have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.
If you click on that, it should download the latest Firefox ESR. Did you try it?
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 08, 2020, 01:48:14 PM
Hi xor
a standard option that should be;

I don't want to use it in a personalized way.

what i want; I want this feature to be standard in the * .TCZ file.

http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz

this feature should be a standard feature!

!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!

please update this by adding this feature to * .tcz files
You sound like a child stamping their feet and throwing a temper tantrum.

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!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!
You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? You only need to run those 6 commands 1 time and you will have a renamed version of
firefox_getLatest.tcz  that fetches the latest ESR. You can then install  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz  to any machine you want so their menus
also have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.

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!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!
You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? Then why are you running Linux? More importantly, why are you running a bare bones
Linux like Tinycore? Maybe a full featured point and click Linux with a larger selection of applications would be more suited to your
needs.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 09, 2020, 03:21:37 AM
Quote
You sound like a child stamping their feet and throwing a temper tantrum.

google translating some words may not correspond exactly in the cultural language! translation may appear slightly aggressive in the culturally opposite language.

Quote
You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? You only need to run those 6 commands 1 time and you will have a renamed version of
firefox_getLatest.tcz  that fetches the latest ESR. You can then install  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz  to any machine you want so their menus
also have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option

linux is already a command based operating system,
it is not a problem to use it for those who already know the commands!
Options that are visualized in terms of common ease of use for people in different languages can make things even easier.

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You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? Then why are you running Linux? More importantly, why are you running a bare bones
Linux like Tinycore? Maybe a full featured point and click Linux with a larger selection of applications would be more suited to your
needs.

TCL's philosophical approach is very nice
this is a minimalist linux.
but some of its applications need to develop interfaces,
ease of use is very important.

I want TLC to achieve a better application infrastructure

because people get what they see

"What You See Is What You Get" >>> WYSIWYG >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYG

Hi xor
a standard option that should be;

I don't want to use it in a personalized way.

what i want; I want this feature to be standard in the * .TCZ file.

http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz
http://tinycorelinux.net/10.x/x86_64/tcz/firefox_getLatest.tcz

this feature should be a standard feature!

!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!

please update this by adding this feature to * .tcz files
You sound like a child stamping their feet and throwing a temper tantrum.

Quote
!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!
You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? You only need to run those 6 commands 1 time and you will have a renamed version of
firefox_getLatest.tcz  that fetches the latest ESR. You can then install  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz  to any machine you want so their menus
also have a  firefox_getLatestESR  option.

Quote
!!! I do not want to enter a code on the terminal screen. !!!
You don't want to enter a code on the terminal? Then why are you running Linux? More importantly, why are you running a bare bones
Linux like Tinycore? Maybe a full featured point and click Linux with a larger selection of applications would be more suited to your
needs.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: Rich on February 09, 2020, 10:46:48 AM
Hi xor
... linux is already a command based operating system,
it is not a problem to use it for those who already know the commands! ...
You don't need to know any commands. I listed the exact commands to type.

I took the time to provide you with a way to download the latest ESR from the desktop menu. If you can't be bothered to try it, fine.

I will not modify the existing  firefox_getLatest.tcz.

If any other forum members provide feedback stating they tried the  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz  created by the script attached to
reply #14 and it works as intended, I am willing to create a  .info  file and submit it as a separate extension.
Title: Re: Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) => FirefoxESR_getLatest.tcz ( Please : )
Post by: xor on February 10, 2020, 01:00:06 AM
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23104.msg147290.html#msg147290

Thank you very much for your effort.
sometimes people can forget something little.
firefox-ESR is used more.
as if * ESR was left in the background

I am aware that it will take time and effort to update every application instantly.

I just ; I wanted it to be an alternative option on the desktop.
  I wanted the existing "firefox_getLatest.tcz" to go one step further! :(


Hi xor
... linux is already a command based operating system,
it is not a problem to use it for those who already know the commands! ...
You don't need to know any commands. I listed the exact commands to type.

I took the time to provide you with a way to download the latest ESR from the desktop menu. If you can't be bothered to try it, fine.

I will not modify the existing  firefox_getLatest.tcz.

If any other forum members provide feedback stating they tried the  firefox_getLatestESR.tcz  created by the script attached to
reply #14 and it works as intended, I am willing to create a  .info  file and submit it as a separate extension.