Applications not Running

[dryfire]

I am a  Linux groupie. Have installed many Linux flavors, for no practical purpose but self-edification. Snared by Joey Bernard's review of Tiny Core.

 A spare Sony Vaio tower is running Ubuntu 11.04 perfectly. No computer issue. So I am trying TC

 Tiny Core Linux boots on her, shows screen, shows apps, allows downloads and places icon on task bar: Chrome, Firefox, Abiword. Nothing happens when I click the icon.
 What am I missing; a simple step, the big picture,………………………?

 Jim
dryfire@dryfire.us

[Guy]

That is an unusual situation. There can occasionally be an app with a bug, but if that is the case, the other apps will work.

Did you install apps using the App Browser?

You need all dep files, dependencies and recursive dependencies. If you did not use the App Browser you may have missed something.

If you used the App Browser, give us a bit more info on what you did.

[dryfire]

I did thus:
apps
connect
On boot  Go
firefox.tcz    ok

Guy,
Thank you for the response

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[Guy]

How did you install Tiny Core?

[dryfire]

Downloaded .iso
Burnt cd

w/one folder boot
containing bzimage, tinycore.gx and
one folder isolinux with 7 files

[alu]

load one application from the terminal and see what the terminal gives you as messages.

crash test: boot tc, connect to the internet, select appbrowser in the menu, load a small extension, install it and load it -- it should work. if yes, then select backup, log off, reboot, and try this extension again, which should work

[roberts]

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:persistence_for_dummies

[dryfire]

Hello Begats,

Thank you for your link. If I could get an application to run, perhaps persistence would be an issue (of interest). For now I appreciate specifics.

[dryfire]

load one application from the terminal and see what the terminal gives you as messages.

crash test: boot tc, connect to the internet, select appbrowser in the menu, load a small extension, install it and load it -- it should work. if yes, then select backup, log off, reboot, and try this extension again, which should work

Hello Alu,
Thank you for trying to assist me.
TMI. I can't follow. Please suggest a specific "small extension" with details on how to "install it and Load it"

Dryfire

[Guy]

Your situation is unusual, and it is not clear what is causing it.

What version are you using?

Use the latest version.


Did you install it with the built in installer?

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_hd_net

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_hd_offline

If you did, everything should work.

[dryfire]

Your situation is unusual, and it is not clear what is causing it.

What version are you using?

Use the latest version.


Did you install it with the built in installer?

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_hd_net

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:install_hd_offline

If you did, everything should work.

Hello Guy,
It is now clear what is causing it!

Thank you for your continuing ideas. When I saw your last post above, referring to HD's I thought "I don't want to add anything to a HD". So I disconnected them both, a SATA and an IDE.

THEN, when I downloaded FireFox  many more files loaded to RAM, and FireFox is working.

Apparently, even though I booted from the TC CD, it realized other files existed. I am sure you have a better understanding and explanation.

AbiWord is also now running.

My original post said this computer was running (Ubuntu) perfectly.

Is there a boot sequence that will allow TC (current version) to run on this computer with the HD's   connected?

Your friend,

Jim

[dryfire]

Sending from TC............Yeah

It is/was the SATA drive. Without it connected, applications load and run as expected.

If the SATA drive is connected, only the .tcz of the application downloads, not the other assorted necessary files.


So...................., is there a correct TC boot sequence/command that will allow the SATA drive?


Your friend,

Jim

[Guy]

You can repartition the hard drive, and install both Ubuntu and Tiny Core.

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/wiki:partition

You can then add the start commands for Tiny Core to Grub 2 in Ubuntu, so you can run either.


Edit /etc/grub.d/40_custom
At the bottom of this file add the following

menuentry "Tiny Core Linux" {
set root='(hd0,1)'
linux /boot/bzImage quiet
initrd /boot/tinycore.gz
}

Then run update-grub

Note: That grub2 counts devices from 0 but partitions from 1.

[Guy]

If you just want to run it from the cd, I am not sure what is causing the problem.

It may be something that is installed on the drive.

It is probably nothing to do with the fact that it is sata.


Another thought

I had a computer with a motherboard which could use both ide and sata drives. I had problems with it. I used only sata drives. I think it was a motherboard bug as a result of using both types of drives on the same motherboard.

On mine, I think I needed to treat the ide drives as primary drives, and the sata drives as secondary. You may need to do the same.

That motherboard died, so I no longer have it.

[dryfire]

If you just want to run it from the cd, I am not sure what is causing the problem.

It may be something that is installed on the drive.

It is probably nothing to do with the fact that it is sata.


Another thought

I had a computer with a motherboard which could use both ide and sata drives. I had problems with it. I used only sata drives. I think it was a motherboard bug as a result of using both types of drives on the same motherboard.

On mine, I think I needed to treat the ide drives as primary drives, and the sata drives as secondary. You may need to do the same.

That motherboard died, so I no longer have it.

Hello Guy,

Well, yeah, all I want to do is run TC from a CD anytime any where any computer, as advertised.
I believe the problem is systemic; not the MB (have many mixed HD's), not my SATA, not the SATA, but TC. The SATA drive is not recognized in the BIOS, so not expected by TC. Ergo weird unanticipated results. (Let the record show this application condition does not exist in the much larger Puppy Linux run from CD)

That's all from me folks, I'll leave further analysis to my betters.

Your friend,

Jim