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Get APPS with no internet on TC laptop? Load APS on boot from auto-mounted USB?
roberts:
If your old laptop can boot from a floppy, you might be interested in this:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=354.0
grandma:
no floppy
but I did wrestle GRUB to give me a dual boot today - whoo hooo - and managed to get 4 partitions installed:
1. Boot - W2K (shrunk from owning the whole drive)
2. FAT - about a gig
3. LINUX SWAP - about 300 meg
4. EXT2 - about 15 gig
Then loaded TC in #2 - no syslinux required, modified boot.ini, and wrote a Grub script that ran through all:
(hd0,0)
(hd0,1)
(hd0,2)
0 - 8 etc. until I got a TC boot - wooo hooo baby! Rock and roll.
Almost ready to migrate.
BUT - I can't find that kewl post you sent - early on - about the first files to grab.
I have Perl - and DOSFSTOOLS - so I can do a lot at this point with nothing else. I have a big migration ahead and don't really need to get online to load up the EX2 partition with all my Windows data.
THEN I need to get TC working with the RTL and also do a full dump to an external USB HD.
Then flatten the Windows area completely and ka-boom - done with that 30 year MS nightmare.
grandma:
Ok,
a) Have Tiny Core so it boots on C: drive consistently with GRUB - windows default - TC works
b) not sure why screen is black - no logo - just menu at bottom - tried posting wall paper - which works - but doesn't save
c) not sure why backup /hdx/tce etc. works now on shut down - already filled in - that was very frustrating before - kept getting error messages
d) haven't retested perl
e) rather I need to focus on INTERNET now. Found the suggested links Robert posted earlier.
Grab wireless-tools.tcz,
(I ASSUME THIS IS compat-wireless-2.6.37-4.tar.xz - correct?)
ndiswrapper.tcz,
(I assume this is ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.56.tar.gz - and not the COMPILE ndiswrapper, correct?)
Ok, ndiswrapper is a large pile of source - not sure where the TCZ file is.
Ok, found info, list, md5 and dep (real pain cutting and pasting these manually - I can write a script to automatically generate these files for downloads if you folks need a little perl CGI backend for users),
but the words NDISWRAPPER - is not an href download - just the word.
So - where is the actual file?
and perl5.tcz
(already got Perl thanks to Juanito - sent me the link - and it worked fine when tested - a week or so ago)
0. Boot Tiny Core with nodhcp boot paramater.
(have no idea how to do that - will scan forums)
As user root:
1. mount Windows drive
(windows drive is NTFS - TC can't get to it - will look for NTFS tool you mentioned)
2. /usr/local/sbin/ndiswrapper -i /path/to/your/windows/netcard.INF
(I assume I type this at a terminal prompt? would be better if I can load this on boot)
3. /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper
(another terminal prompt?)
Check results with
4. iwconfig
(will test methods/parameters at link Lee gave me - http://linux.die.net/man/8/iwconfig - which looks like it may be ideal)
f) also need to find out how to "feed" network the IP address and other info - Lee's link may handle that, and
g) once I understand how to install RTL8187 drivers, I can automate that so when someone comes to TC their first time it, their system will have already fetched the required wifi drivers - if required - and put their favorite wall paper up - if desired.
The gray is fine - for some - but for most it is (and was to 1) - not the best way to retain "customers" or users. Folks like to see their art on their page.
h) Then there is the Firefox issue - a good browser - but folks are going to want that up front, loaded and functional by the time they get a Tiny Core boot - or again - you will lose them if they have to fish around and figure out how to obtain that - most can't or won't.
Beyond these issues - since 90% of users need PCs to go online, everything else, like the word processors or other aps, can be loaded "later" when they have time to play with it.
So - any ideas on how to install the RTL drivers would be appreciated, and any thoughts on a simple way to ensure the "wall paper image" I keep saving - that never saves - would also help - and a clear method of putting a few files in optional or somewhere so they are guaranteed to be part of the environment at boot would be a huge help.
I did try dmesg |more and saw an enormous amount of "RECOGNIZED" and no real errors that I saw, including nailing the CPU temp, finding all 4 ports on my USB hub, naming the drives, TCP protocols, all that good stuff, though a few things did go to "default" because it either wasn't supported or some other minor problem. 99% of it looked good - from my limited knowledge of what it was doing as it booted up.
Anyone home? Thank you.
Juanito:
--- Quote from: grandma on April 18, 2011, 03:17:51 AM ---Grab wireless-tools.tcz,
(I ASSUME THIS IS compat-wireless-2.6.37-4.tar.xz - correct?)
--- End quote ---
No - it is wireless_tools-29 compiled for tinycore and made into a loop mountable extension. So, once you've downloaded it, you use the apps browser "local" button to load it
--- Quote ---ndiswrapper.tcz,
(I assume this is ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper-1.56.tar.gz - and not the COMPILE ndiswrapper, correct?)
--- End quote ---
No, this is ndiswrapper-1.56 compiled for tinycore and made into a loop mount able extension.
--- Quote ---Ok, ndiswrapper is a large pile of source - not sure where the TCZ file is.
Ok, found info, list, md5 and dep (real pain cutting and pasting these manually
--- End quote ---
All of the tcz files are in the same place as perl5.tcz was, so you just need to substitute ndiswrapper.tcz for perl5.tcz in the previous url I gave you and it will download. I would however suggest going to a public library or friend's house with a wired internet connection, which will most likely work "out of the box" and downloading everything you need using the apps browser.
--- Quote ---(windows drive is NTFS - TC can't get to it - will look for NTFS tool you mentioned)
--- End quote ---
use the filesystems-2.6.33.3-tinycore extension
--- Quote ---2. /usr/local/sbin/ndiswrapper -i /path/to/your/windows/netcard.INF
(I assume I type this at a terminal prompt? would be better if I can load this on boot)
--- End quote ---
Yes, it is a terminal command. You can add it to /opt/bootlocal.sh to load on boot.
--- Quote ---So - any ideas on how to install the RTL drivers would be appreciated
--- End quote ---
Over and above the twice I already explained this?
grandma:
Improving boot for windows users -
I asked a friend - total 100% non-tech - to try it because "it is so fast" - she loved that fast boot, but in 10 seconds after the boot she asked "Ethernet?" What am I supposed to type in here? Call me when this thing can be used." - and reformatted her USB stick and put TC away.
She had:
a) boot to usb
b) cable ethernet
c) working windows PC hot shot machine
etc.
Instructions that lead to
a) C source - which (ahem) no non-tech will compile or
b) a page with the info, list, md5 and dep files - but no link to get the .tcz and md5 etc. altogether
...scares people away.
I will look at making an easier install. Need help figuring out how to PRECONFIGURE ETHERNET so first boot - it goes online - browser loaded - go to google etc. - right out of the box.
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