A suggestion for Tiny Core

[Neo]

Hi All,
This is my second time around with TC.
The first time was with 2.5 and now with 3.1.
With 2.5 I got so frustrated with not being able to customized the desktop the way I wanted to, I ended up running XFCE.  By the time I did that, the fast boot time over some of the other distro's had pretty much disappeared.

As someone who is quite familiar with Linux but still had a heck of a time getting TC 3.1 up and running properly I have a suggestion as to how to make setting up TC a bit easier, especially for those who may be coming from another distro with a more robust desktop (like KDE or Gnome).

My suggestion is to have a program that would present you with a list of the most common programs that people install and handle the installation for you.
Programs like web browser (including Flash), music player, file manager, word processor, terminal, etc.

The problem isn't installing the individual programs in TC, it's not knowing which programs you need in this particular desktop environment (I had Aterminal but in order to cut and paste code I had to install LXterminal - I never would have known that had it not been for the help I received from this forum).  I even struggled with finding a file manager.

Using this program would of course be optional.

I know one of the benefits of TC is total customization, but a setup program like that would have saved me a few headaches and time.
I could have had TC up and running much sooner.

This is not a criticism but rather an observation based on my own experience.

Agree or Disagree, but please do so respectfully.

P.S.  Yes I have read this thread:

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=2833.0

but I think that while it did touch on some of what I've said, it's focus was really with an easier way to install the base TC.

[roberts]

I see no mention that you read:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/intro.html
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/concepts.html
or bothered to view the videos:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/screenshots.html

This is a toolkit not a turnkey distro. There is much benefit to reviewing the documentation provided.

BTW, I frequently cut and paste from aterm.  AppBrowser has Search/Provides to aid in searching the repository.

[Neo]

I see no mention that you read:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/intro.html
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/concepts.html
or bothered to view the videos:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/screenshots.html

This is a toolkit not a turnkey distro. There is much benefit to reviewing the documentation provided.

BTW, I frequently cut and paste from aterm.  AppBrowser has Search/Provides to aid in searching the repository.

Thank you for the links Roberts and thank you for being respectful in your response.
Not everyone would be so polite to someone who has an opinion which is different from their own.

Like I said I was just making my suggestion based on my experience and from the thread I pasted in my original post, it appears others share my thoughts and I am not alone on this matter.

As for Aterm, try a fresh install of 3.1 and I mean totally fresh, download the iso and install it on a clean and wiped hardrive.
No matter what I've tried, I cannot cut and paste in Aterm.

Peace.

[tinypoodle]

I see no mention that you read:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/intro.html
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/concepts.html
or bothered to view the videos:
http://www.tinycorelinux.com/screenshots.html

This is a toolkit not a turnkey distro. There is much benefit to reviewing the documentation provided.

BTW, I frequently cut and paste from aterm.  AppBrowser has Search/Provides to aid in searching the repository.

+1 (despite having to admit that I have never bothered to view any videos...)

[jur]

No matter what I've tried, I cannot cut and paste in Aterm.

Peace.

Ctrl-C and ctrol-V don't work, but have you tried clicking mouse middle button? (Or its equivalent, clicking both button simultaneously if no middle button.)

[roberts]

Furthering my statement about availing oneself of the provided documentation:
The FAQ: http://www.tinycorelinux.com/faq.html
How to Cut and Paste?  http://www.tinycorelinux.com/faq.html#c_p
or more recently the discussion of such: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=7411.msg39496#msg39496

[AlabamaPaul]

Neo,

One suggestion, since it is easy to create and submit Tiny Core Extensions, you could create a "meta-extension" that has no real packages, but lists all extensions you believe are helpful as dependencies.

This could help others more easily get started using Tiny Core.

To me, one of the best features of Tiny Core is that the base is lite and unencumbered, but you can use extensions to add the functionality you require or desire.
 
Paul

[Wayne]

Hello guys..
To make your Tiny Core system more fully GNU compatible, use appbrowser and select coreutils.tcz. This will replace the busybox used in the base system to the full power of the GNU versions. by (admin)

[Neo]

Hello guys..
To make your Tiny Core system more fully GNU compatible, use appbrowser and select coreutils.tcz. This will replace the busybox used in the base system to the full power of the GNU versions. by (admin)

Hello Wayne,
I installed coreutils.tcz, selected it in the On Boot menu, and rebooted my computer, but it still does not appear accessible anywhere.

How do I access and run this program?

[gerald_clark]

It is not a program, but a collection of full featured utilities to replace and augment the functionality supplied by busybox.

[tinypoodle]

Neo,

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/3.x/tcz/coreutils.tcz.list

IMHO it is a really bad idea to load coreutils onboot, when you obviously have no idea what they are and what they do. By doing so, you replace basic default system commands with a different version which can have a slightly different behaviour, take different options (difference in syntax) and produce different output (besides from an expectable higher resources usage).

Before doing so, it would be recommendable at least to read up about coreutils and busybox, in order to understand the basic differences.  

Just my $0.02...

Edit:
Of course if you wanted to run some software which explicitely requires the availability of coreutils, then that would be a different story.

[hiro]

I completely agree with tinypoodle. I would even dare to say:
Try to avoid GNU as much as possible...