What's the future direction of TC?

[eluring]

@tinypoodle
Is there any website in gothic language?

Currently  I am posting from my hacked Australian "tinypoodle" distro.
The "Runes" are not displayed in my voodoo tc.
Therefore I'd not take the risk on gothic in tc at the moment.

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Markus Kuhn [ˈmaʳkʊs kuːn] <http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/> — 2002-07-25


The ASCII compatible UTF-8 encoding used in this plain-text file
is defined in Unicode, ISO 10646-1, and RFC 2279.


Using Unicode/UTF-8, you can write in emails and source code things such as
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  እግርህን በፍራሽህ ልክ ዘርጋ።

Runes:

  ᚻᛖ ᚳᚹᚫᚦ ᚦᚫᛏ ᚻᛖ ᛒᚢᛞᛖ ᚩᚾ ᚦᚫᛗ ᛚᚪᚾᛞᛖ ᚾᚩᚱᚦᚹᛖᚪᚱᛞᚢᛗ ᚹᛁᚦ ᚦᚪ ᚹᛖᛥᚫ

  (Old English, which transcribed into Latin reads 'He cwaeth that he
  bude thaem lande northweardum with tha Westsae.' and means 'He said
  that he lived in the northern land near the Western Sea.')

Braille:

  ⡌⠁⠧⠑ ⠼⠁⠒  ⡍⠜⠇⠑⠹⠰⠎ ⡣⠕⠌
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[tinypoodle]

http://got.wikipedia.org 
link to runic alphabet version at bottom of same page 

had make it work in the past, not tried on TC though, but thinking more a question of fonts to be used by browser than anything else (I had runes made work as well)

getting really OT, given original title of thread 

[eluring]

We're still discussing this, so wait a bit with the patches. Also note that this wouldn't enable utf-8 in the fltk apps for reasons noted above, iso-8859-1 only.

consider taking iso-8859-15 please, it is just 1k larger and the actual replacement for 8859-1 and then you could use the Euro in the US, too.
But I doubt if it makes much sense making translations not using UTF-8. IMHO the goal should be an UTF-8 tc.

I doubt many users would like a 10mb+ pack with support for many languages they don't care for.

Of course that won´t be tc style. My usr/lib/locale/locale-archive in mydata.tgz is just about 2mb (dont remember how many locales installed, now posting from another system).

Enough said about UTF-8 for the moment. Something to read:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html

getting really OT, given original title of thread

tinypoodle, I agree (PMed)
Anything else about the future direction of TC?

[gutmensch]

count me in!

+5 for UTF-8

[hiro]

You should go and release a stable fltk 1.3, so that I don't have to feel silly about voting for UTF-8!

[curaga]

FLTK is not our project.

[hiro]

Just saying...

I assume you will ship with fltk 1.3 once it's stable?

[^thehatsrule^]

"Split post":

Suggestion: placing extensions by catagory like debian, atleast on the website. It would make life easier if one could just lookup say, text editors or ide, in development catagory and then researching it instead of the other way around.

[split OT discussion: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=7386.msg39128#msg39128 ]

[Wayne]

Thanks for the Great post! Keep it up!

[TheNewbie]

So far, we're basically discussing new fonts/translations and the possibility of porting to other architectures. (notably ARM) (just want to recap so I don't miss something or re-suggest)

There are a few usability features that I think would be easy/beneficial to add:
-Appbrowser recursively searches all deps from the tce restore directory, as defined by the boot code (installs any already downloaded deps of a repo-retrieved tcz from the tce dir) (not sure if this is implemented yet, so if it is, please speak up)

-Addition of the tcz-unload custom script (by helander) as a built-in command. Admittedly, this could be done easily enough with remastering, or even just with filetool.lst, but I suggest it be added as soon as possible officially & permanently. This shouldn't be added to Appbrowser/Appaudit due to some inherent issues if, for instance, one removes a dep of a program that they open later.

[tclfan]

Just out of curiosity, is there a TODO or roadmap for TinyCore? What can we expect for TC 4.0 and beyond?

Although this is a digression: TinyCore is apparently quite solid and stable at this level. The last post in the 'Bugs' section was well over two weeks ago!

Just as RobertS decides next steps in terms of long term roadmap, in the meantime I would like to bring back our discussed already concept of composing and making available to users a ready-to-go LiveCD, selecting the best configuration of useful apps. This is a low hanging fruit that could significantly increase user base, although I am concious of the fact that TC leadership wants to keep TC as it is now, requiring all users to compose their desired system themselves.
Another quite useful project would be an easy, gui based re-mastering (Yes, I am aware - there is a script)...

[roberts]

Have you seen Brian's ezremaster? http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/Remastering+with+ezremaster
It is in the repository.

[tclfan]

I apologize. I missed this one, I do not know how it happened.. This app could be an answer, therefore invalidating my second idea...
Thank you.

[bassbum]

Just out of curiosity, is there a TODO or roadmap for TinyCore? What can we expect for TC 4.0 and beyond?

I'd like to see more GUI stuff for newer users, a GUI installer for one thing.

[curaga]

Current usbinstall may be used for a HD install as well, as long as the device is ok to be wiped.