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Offline u4444

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TC will not save some changes
« on: May 18, 2010, 09:52:10 PM »
So I followed instructions to properly install TC with GRUB on a a 10GB HDD.

Now, I'm using wpa_supplicant and its dependencies, along with firmware-iwlwifi to get my wireless PCMCIA card working. All of this works fine.

I have to install these from my USB drive (sda0), because my Ethernet port wont work (TC doesn't recognize eth0), so I used the Apps program to install locally (or tce-load -i).

When I reboot the laptop, even after backing up hda1/tce/, wpa_supplicant and its dependencies, including programs like iwconfig, are missing.

So I need two things:
1) Have locally installed packages stay on the hard drive after reboot. I don't know if it's loading into /tmp/
2) after this is fixed, I want to launch something like udhcpc or iwconfig to connect to an ESSID during boot time.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 10:19:05 PM »
Boot with the one-time option "tce=hda1" and install your extensions.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 10:27:43 PM »
Boot with the one-time option "tce=hda1" and install your extensions.
Sorry, doesn't work.
Do I put this after the tinycore.gz line in grub?

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 04:27:02 AM »
Bootcodes in grub go on the kernel line.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 12:22:02 PM »
OK.

tce=hda1 is still not working.
I'm later going to try wpa_supplicant from another repository.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 12:31:52 PM »
OK.

tce=hda1 is still not working.
I'm later going to try wpa_supplicant from another repository.

What is the file system on hda1?
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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 09:22:38 PM »
@u4444: Please provide us with the result of the following few commands:
    grep mnt /etc/fstab
    mount | grep mnt
    autoscan tce d
    fdisk -l /dev/hda
    cat /opt/.tce_dir
    cat /opt/.backup_device
Whilst those are maybe a few more then absolutely necessary it will help to give us a good picture of your situation.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 11:49:27 PM »
I want to share my issue with topic owner:
I wana save setting, files, etc.. after reboot (automatically - I don't want to create separate /home, /opt dirs).
my menu.lst is as followings:
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title Tiny Core
kernel /tinycore/bzImage tce=sda6/tinycore/
initrd /tinycore/tinycore.gz

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 11:52:28 PM »
woops.. I just read this from gerald_clark
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Boot with the one-time option "tce=hda1" and install your extensions.
shoud I remove tce=sda6/tinycore on the next reboot?
p/s: when I shutdown, I also leave the backup option checked, but nothing is saved.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 12:09:26 AM »
No. It won't look for a directory named 'tinycore'
If you use any name other the 'tce', you must define it at every boot.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 02:10:46 AM »
What is the file system on hda1?
Huh? Isn't hda1 the file system? It's where I installed Tinycore. . .

@u4444: Please provide us with the result of the following few commands:
    grep mnt /etc/fstab
    mount | grep mnt
    autoscan tce d
    fdisk -l /dev/hda
    cat /opt/.tce_dir
    cat /opt/.backup_device
Whilst those are maybe a few more then absolutely necessary it will help to give us a good picture of your situation.

   grep mnt /etc/fstab
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/dev/fd0        /mnt/fd0        auto     noauto,users,exec    0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hda1       /mnt/hda1       ext3     noauto,users,exec,relatime 0 0 # Added by TC
/dev/hdc        /mnt/hdc        auto     noauto,users,exec    0 0 # Added by TC

   mount | grep mnt
/dev/hda1 on /mnt/hda1 type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=continue,data=ordered)

   autoscan tce d
hda1

   fdisk -l /dev/hda
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Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10056130560 bytes
240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1299 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks  Id System
/dev/hda1   *           1        1299     9820408+ 83 Linux

   cat /opt/.tce_dir
/mnt/hda1/tce

   cat /opt/.backup_device
hda1/tce

Again, the funny thing is that it will save files downloaded from the Internet but not local package installations.
If I continue figuring out the problem myself, I'll just end up rebooting the computer from little to so many times.
« Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 02:16:06 AM by u4444 »

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 02:17:32 AM »
No. It won't look for a directory named 'tinycore'
If you use any name other the 'tce', you must define it at every boot.
yes.. and here is my boot config
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title Tiny Core
kernel /tinycore/bzImage tce=sda6/tinycore/
initrd /tinycore/tinycore.gz
why doesn't it save anything?

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 03:14:57 AM »
@u4444: I feel a bit sorry for having asked you to provide all those details since by the looks of it I can't see anything wrong. You appear to have a '/dev/hda1' which gets properly recognized for extension storage and backup/restore.

So to drill down a bit further I have another set of commands:
    ls -lR /mnt/hda1/tce
    cat /mnt/hda1/tce/onboot.lst


I can only speculate that the extension you expect to be loaded are not included in 'onboot.lst'. That could be the result of just downloading (e.g. tce-load -w EXT) instead of (downloading and) installing an extension (e.g. tce-load -wi EXT). If that is the problem you can easily fix it by adding those extension names to that file (and forget about providing the output of the above commands).

Furthermore I'm not quite sure what you mean with "... but not local package installations." Would you please explain this e.g. by giving an example.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 03:42:18 AM »
@gaixixon: I fully agree with the advice given by gerald_clark.

If you want to troubleshoot your problem have a closer look at reply #10. You can use a similar set of commands, just use:
    autoscan tinycore d
    fdisk -l /dev/sda

instead of the ones used above.

Obviously in your expected result you will have to substitute 'tce' with 'tinycore' and 'hda1' with 'sda6'.

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Re: TC will not save some changes
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 01:30:59 PM »
@u4444: I feel a bit sorry for having asked you to provide all those details since by the looks of it I can't see anything wrong. You appear to have a '/dev/hda1' which gets properly recognized for extension storage and backup/restore.

So to drill down a bit further I have another set of commands:
    ls -lR /mnt/hda1/tce
    cat /mnt/hda1/tce/onboot.lst


I can only speculate that the extension you expect to be loaded are not included in 'onboot.lst'. That could be the result of just downloading (e.g. tce-load -w EXT) instead of (downloading and) installing an extension (e.g. tce-load -wi EXT). If that is the problem you can easily fix it by adding those extension names to that file (and forget about providing the output of the above commands).

Furthermore I'm not quite sure what you mean with "... but not local package installations." Would you please explain this e.g. by giving an example.


By the local package installation, that meant I was installing the package from a (local) location and not the online repository.

   ls -lR /mnt/hda1/tce
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/mnt/hda1/tce:
total 3212
-rw-rw-r--    1 tc       staff      3267662 May 19 23:01 mydata.tgz
-rw-rw-r--    1 tc       staff           71 May 18 17:07 onboot.lst
drwxrwxr-x    2 tc       staff        12288 May 18 18:01 optional/

/mnt/hda1/tce/optional:
total 61396
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-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff          475 May 18 01:34 wireless-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz.info
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff         5360 May 18 01:34 wireless-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz.list
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           65 May 18 01:38 wireless-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz.md5.txt
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff         3194 May 18 01:28 wireless-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tcz.zsync
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff        86016 May 18 01:08 wireless_tools.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 01:08 wireless_tools.tcz.dep
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 01:08 wireless_tools.tcz.info
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 01:08 wireless_tools.tcz.list
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           53 May 18 01:38 wireless_tools.tcz.md5.txt
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 01:08 wireless_tools.tcz.zsync
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff       167936 May 18 00:24 wpa-supplicant.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 00:34 wpa-supplicant.tcz.info
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff            0 May 18 00:34 wpa-supplicant.tcz.md5.txt
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff        81920 May 18 01:07 wpa_gui.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           51 May 18 01:07 wpa_gui.tcz.dep
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff          301 May 18 01:07 wpa_gui.tcz.info
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           94 May 18 01:07 wpa_gui.tcz.list
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           46 May 18 01:38 wpa_gui.tcz.md5.txt
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff          430 May 18 01:38 wpa_gui.tcz.zsync
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff       155648 May 18 01:25 wpa_supplicant.tcz
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           37 May 18 01:07 wpa_supplicant.tcz.dep
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff         1089 May 18 01:07 wpa_supplicant.tcz.info
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff          125 May 18 01:07 wpa_supplicant.tcz.list
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff           53 May 18 01:38 wpa_supplicant.tcz.md5.txt
-rwxrwxrwx    1 tc       staff          661 May 18 01:08 wpa_supplicant.tcz.zsync

   cat /mnt/hda1/tce/onboot.lst
Quote
chromium-browser.tcz
pango.tcz
chromium-browser-locale.tcz
firefox.tcz

I don't know if the tiny core wiki mentions anything about onboot.lst. So anyways I went and did
sudo vi /mnt/hda1/tce/onboot.lst

And inserted the two entires so it would become:

Quote
chromium-browser.tcz
pango.tcz
chromium-browser-locale.tcz
firefox.tcz
firmware-iwlwifi.tcz
wpa_supplicant.tcz

Rebooted and it works.
Thank you for your help.
Now I can figure out how to get iwconfig to boot-up every time.
This wasn't a bug was it? I don't know if I did something wrong, which would make TC skip appending entires to bootup.lst.
EDIT: OK, now that I look at the permissions for the files I've downloaded, I think my obvious mistake was that I forgot to chmod them. X____x
« Last Edit: May 20, 2010, 01:33:00 PM by u4444 »