1-2-3 contact to microcore

[vinnie]

I have more question for whitin microcore.

1-where I find the manual of tce-load and its brothers?

2-i tried to install a graphics system on microcore but I failed, here are the steps:
   .installing microcore on usbpen
   .copy core elements (Xlibs.core.tczl Xprogs.core.tczl) on tce directory
   .run microcore
   .$ tce-load -w -i Xorg-7.4.tczl (dependecies: pixman, expat2, fontconfig, openssl)
   .$ startx (the prompt require wbar, ok i install this but I'd like if choose it)
   .$ tce-load -w -i wbar.tcz
   .$ startx (In a few seconds i have a black screen and then return to the prompt with no message)
   .$ tce-load -w -i Xfce4base.tczl (dependecies: gtk2, atk, cairo, pango, glib2, libxml2, graphics-libs-1, fortune-mod, dbus, dbus-glib, libwnck, libglade, ttf-bitstream-vera, libstartup-notification, gnome-icon-theme, shared-mime-info, gamin, libnotify, hal, libpci, libusb, udevadm, libblkid, libuuid).
   .the package manager did not install the main package Xfce4base,tczl! ok i reinstall this.
   .at the end of the installation prompt says: "mount: /lib/libuuid.so.1: no version information available (required by /lib/libblkid.so.1), in according with this page libuuid is bad....
   .I try however startx but i receive the same black screen
   .I prove "sudo X -configure", i receive "fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting", does not give up, "$ cp /home/tc/xorg.conf.new /home/tc/xorg.conf"; "starx"; black screen.
   .I prove to install openbox (libuuid is not his dependence), reboot and use this boocode  "microcore desktop=openbox" but dm not start

Please help me

[bmarkus]

Regarding Xfce4 wait till new version will be available in the repository.

Xorg: seems that you did not install graphics hardware drivers: graphics-2.6.29.1-tinycore.tczm

You do not need '... -configure...', use confless setup. Read WIKI article:

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/tiki-index.php?page=Using+Xorg+over+Xvesa

[vinnie]

oky, but for X ?

[bmarkus]

oky, but for X ?

You wrote:

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2-i tried to install a graphics system on microcore but I failed, here are the steps:
   .installing microcore on usbpen
   .copy core elements (Xlibs.core.tczl Xprogs.core.tczl) on tce directory
   .run microcore
   .$ tce-load -w -i Xorg-7.4.tczl (dependecies: pixman, expat2, fontconfig, openssl)
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So you want to use Xorg. In such case, read:

http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/tiki-index.php?page=Using+Xorg+over+Xvesa

[vinnie]

ok for this guide i install xorg over tinycore (hence upon flwm and xvesa), i want to avoid.
Xvesa.core it's essential for Xorg-7.4 ?

[bmarkus]

Xorg is optional, you can avoid it fully. But in such case do not ask what is wrong with it. If you need Xvesa use TC, not MC. Simple.

[jls]

Vinniec is "saying" that he wants to use Xorg

[bmarkus]

Vinniec is "saying" that he wants to use Xorg

Hmmm...

Itw as told:

ok for this guide i install xorg over tinycore (hence upon flwm and xvesa), i want to avoid.
Xvesa.core it's essential for Xorg-7.4 ?

I misunderstood it, sorry. Now I see the target is to build a graphic system based on MC omitting Xvesa and go for Xorg only and with another WM replacing FLWM.  

[tclfan]

  .$ startx (In a few seconds i have a black screen and then return to the prompt with no message)
 ......
   .I try however startx but i receive the same black screen
  Please help me

Hi Vinnie,
From your description looks like you did precisely follow instructions...
Regarding the above return to prompt with no message I was getting the same behavior.  When I did 'sudo startx' (which was wrong thing to do) I did get the X desktop screen with the correct resolution, but flwm logout menu item was disabled... No logout, no shutdown or reboot available...
This startted happening to me with TC 2.4, a possible interraction between flwm and Xorg perhaps...
I will do some more testing shortly to confirm this behavior...

[vinnie]

For Merkus:  Yes, with my previous message i referred to the guide that you have pass ( http://wiki.tinycorelinux.com/tiki-index.php?page=Using+Xorg+over+Xvesa )

Hi Vinnie,
From your description looks like you did precisely follow instructions...

Prove to use tinycore 2.4.1, I read somewhere a similar error with xorg

[bmarkus]

I will try to setup the latest Xfce4 on MC later this night both with Xvesa and Xorg.

[bmarkus]

Vinnie: just one question. Why do you want to use Xorg instead of Xvesa?

[tclfan]

Sorry, clicked accidentally... I meant to say this would be beautiful! It looks like would eliminate this redundant core element as well, enhancing relative efficiency...
Looking forward to this next step...

[^thehatsrule^: removed your accidental post]

[vinnie]

Vinnie: just one question. Why do you want to use Xorg instead of Xvesa?

My aim is not to have a super lightweight distro, I want a normal distro, with video drivers installed.
A system thus arranged:
-os completely run on ram by usb
-mounting eventual package just-in-time  on demand

   
The second reason is that I need the tray, only xfce have tray between the WM tinycore.

The third reason is that i have a monitor whit annoyng resolution

[vinnie]

Ok, secondo test! (director cut edition)

-prepare an MC with two coreelements
-$ tce-load Xfce4base.tczl (al dependencies of xorg it integrated)
-$ sudo rm /etc/sysconfig/icons (for remove dependecies from wbar, mentioned in this page)
-$ startx
    black screen
    /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: X server already tunning on display :0.0
-$ startxfce4
    /usr/local/bin/starxfce4: Starting X server
   /usr/local/bin/startxfce4: exec: line 77: xinit: not found

What is wrong? What omit doing?