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Offline chexmix

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proper upgrade procedure?
« on: October 10, 2009, 07:33:48 PM »
I upgraded from 2.3 -> 2.4 this morning, but don't seem to see some of the changes/new features listed in the changelog, in particular:

- flwm hotkeys not working for me
- I still see TCE in appbrowser - thought that was going away

... so I'm thinking I must have done the upgrade wrong.

... since I'm now upgrading to 2.4.1 I thought I would make sure I'm doing this properly: all I did to upgrade from 2.3 to 2.4 was copy over new versions of tinycore.gz and bzImage to my /boot directory. Is more required? Sorry for this basic question - I didn't find an upgrade topic on the wiki but perhaps I didn't look hard enough ...

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 07:45:58 PM »
How odd. I upgraded to 2.4.1 and now I see the changes:

- title bars on top of windows
- TCE gone from appbrowser
- hotkeys working

... the only thing I did differently was re-run LILO before rebooting. But given that the .conf file didn't change, I don't think that would've mattered.

Hmm.

Well, 2.4.1 is nice!  ;D

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 07:54:35 PM »
You MUST rerun lilo any time you make a kernel change.
I'm surprised it still booted.

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 07:56:16 PM »
... luck o' the clueless ... !? :o

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 08:28:57 PM »
You MUST rerun lilo any time you make a kernel change.
I'm surprised it still booted.
No, that is incorrect as the files are replaced (filenames remain the same)

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 10:06:35 PM »
That is true with grub, but lilo calculates filesystem offsets when you run it.

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 01:15:46 AM »
I don't recall that, but perhaps it is.  Either way, the kernel hasn't changed between those versions.

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 03:00:51 AM »
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all I did to upgrade from 2.3 to 2.4 was copy over new versions of tinycore.gz and bzImage to my /boot directory. Is more required?

With upgrades to some versions, what you did will work.

Sometimes other files also need to be changed.

Here is a simple method which works every time, without being concerned about specific files.

In addition to what you did.

Save a copy of any personal files you have in /home/tc.

Delete /home/tc.

Delete mydata.tgz. This is normally in /mnt/(partition)/tce.

(This assumes you are using both home and backup.)

The computer will then boot the same as a with new installation.
Many people see what is. Some people see what can be, and make a difference.

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 10:35:32 AM »
Upgraded the eeePC 1000HE to TC 2.4.1 this morning.

Oddly, flwm now does not automatically start - I have to explicitly start it from a terminal. And flit no longer shows up.

Which file should I be looking at to get these to come up automatically with Xvesa? Not sure how / why this behavior might have changed on the netbook but not with my other machine ...  :-\

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 11:01:19 AM »
from: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=3304.msg17513#new

"The desktop environment has been moved from tc-config into startx. This allows a microcore boot with base norestore, then manually (tce-load -i) the core elements together with your choice of window manager, wbar, flit, and/or watcher. Upon completion, still at the $ prompt, typing startx will bring up a working desktop environment. You can still exit to prompt, and run startx."

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« Last Edit: October 12, 2009, 03:09:05 PM by ^thehatsrule^ »

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2009, 11:25:32 AM »
alu,

Thanks. It grieves me to admit same, but I guess I don't fully understand that directive.

When I run 'tce-load -i' at the console I get usage directions. If I run 'sudo tce-load -i' I get nothing (e.g. not even usage directions).

If I specify an extension name, e.g. 'tce-load -i flwm' I get an error message from the cut command and "flwm not found!" If I do this with "sudo" prepended, silence.

I love TC but I miss manpages. I have the man-pages extension installed but miss the convenience of 'man <command>'.

Still unsure what to do. Sorry.  :-[

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2009, 11:53:08 AM »
If I specify an extension name, e.g. 'tce-load -i flwm' I get an error message from the cut command and "flwm not found!" If I do this with "sudo" prepended, silence.

Try "tce-load -i flwm.tcz"

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2009, 12:28:27 PM »
Hmm. Same result: "flwm.tcz not found!" (or silence when using sudo).

Confused mainly (or partly) because the upgrade was pretty seamless on the other laptop. It's only the netbook that is giving me fits. Trying to puzzle out what caused or is causing the differences.

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Re: proper upgrade procedure?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2009, 01:15:36 PM »
OK, I [re]installed flwm through appbrowser and now my desktop is working as it did before.

Think I'm missing some things here, but I'll keep exploring. Thanks to everyone who replied.