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roberts:
If you are using the grub from DSL, it is too old.
You can grab the grub floppy from our download site and copy over newer grub files.

JohnJS:
Thanks roberts,
Happy New Year.

josephg:
I don't wish to rake it up again. But since this discussion has already started, I just wanted to put my £0.02 in.

I second tobiaus in what he says below. roberts, we all acknowledge the stellar role that you are playing and have played. I have been a long time dsl user, but tcl is closer to my heart in philosophy. I use my own specific apps, including window manager ratpoison and screen and some other minimalist apps. As such, no bloatware is good enough for me. I recently wiped DSL and put Debian etch on my old laptop - 64M memory and 640MHz processer - shameful. But, it is flying faster than my shiny M$ laptop. It has a 2.6 kernel, and I've got opera, flash, mplayer, transmission, audacity, skype, all with the latest libs. i.e. not older expired versions. I just want to say that older hardware need not go to the landfill, just because some people like to keep buying newer hardware every year or so.

I used to carry DSL on my usb stick, and hope that tcl might be a worthy replacement. I never migrated to DSL4, and I have no need for the latest versions of every app, as long as I can do what I need to. I might not be your ideal user, but I know many who think like me...


--- Quote from: tobiaus on December 29, 2008, 03:17:14 PM ---i get what you're saying. i've said it before and i'll say it again, and without any disrespect to other parties intended, i think the best thing that ever happened to dsl is that you joined the project. and, i think the other best thing that ever happened to dsl is that you left and created tc.

i believe tc is much closer to what i wanted of dsl than even dsl was, but, dsl was my favorite distro at the time you were working on it. naturally, there is part of my thinking that thinks "dsl" whenever i try to guess what you're doing, and i'm not the only person that's going to repeatedly make that mistake.

tc is not dsl, but it is reminiscent enough that someday it might be worth explaining the differences. but since as you said, it's only just begun, we might all figure out more as we see more of tc. because of its size, upgrading by blanking the cdrw and writing the new iso is incredibly quick and easy.

as for older hardware, there is one very obvious and deliberate way that (much) "older hardware" will never be as supported as it was. the 2.6 kernel will never support as much "old hardware" as 2.6 will. in the past i've been against 2.6, but mostly because of an issue that has not presented a problem in tc, or in the larger more "conventional" distros. other than that issue, i like 2.6, a lot.

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Me:
Sorry - I cannot agree that TCL should be liveCD only. There are dozens of reasons to ask Robert to provide a fully functional FULL, or even just FRUGAL, installation script. Apart from the millions of old desktops lurking under beds, there are also hundreds of redundant laptops with only floppy drive input, and/or extremely limited memory, and/or tiny, but adequate, hard discs. All these could be used for single-purpose tasks, perhaps even image-free browsing with Dillo. One thinks of email clients, ping testers, terminals, dumb or otherwise, amongst many others.
In developing this gem, Robert like Klaus before him, may have seriously underestimated the power and range of this infant. If I read correctly, it would be a trivial matter for Robert to develop and issue an installation routine, with caveats if he chooses, but this aspect of coding may be beyond the ability of many potential users.
Come in Robert, we love you.....

roberts:
But TC is not CDROM only. Most use TC with a frugal grub install.
See the Installation section of the website for how to setup Grub and use with a Frugal install.

http://www.tinycorelinux.com/install.html

As far as a traditional Hard Install goes, I just don't promote it.
In fact I now call that the "Scatter Mode" install as compared to the Tiny & Tidy of Frugal!

Just because, I am not promoting Scatter Mode, does not mean that I am ignoring it.
In the last release v1.2 I fixed a bug that had to do with icons doubling when using Scatter Mode install.

Note grub is not included in the base, it is an extension. So there is no automatic script in the base of TC to peform installations. For existing grub based system it is simply to copy over two files, bzImage and tinycore.gz into your grub boot directory and make a grub menu.lst entry. If you don't have grub then follow the Installation Instructions noted above.

If you wish to do the traditional then its instructions are here in this thread.
Likely they will be placed in the FAQ.

Bugs reports on traditional  (Scatter Mode)  will be addressed and supported whenever possible.

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