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Offline t18

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Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« on: December 14, 2024, 12:39:36 AM »
That's the last piece for my Pentium 166 mosaic.

I've put the following snippet in xorg.conf.d but unsuccessfully:

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Section "InputClass"
Identifier "Mouse0"
MatchIsPointer "On"
MatchDevicePath "/dev/ttyS0"
MatchDriver "mouse"
Option "EmulateWheel" "On"
Option "EmulateWheelButton" "2"
EndSection

Trying to use xorg.conf in the traditional way instead, the following snippet disables the keyboard as well:

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Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AutoAddDevices" "False"
EndSection

Anything I can do?

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2024, 02:36:14 AM »
You could try starting the gui without any xorg conf or snippets and then examine the xorg log to see what is detected and if any errors are found.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2024, 07:51:17 AM »
The attached one is the Xorg.0.log without any config file.

It seems there is no track of pointers.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2024, 08:25:02 AM »
I'm not sure if libinput and/or xf86-input-libinput can handle a serial mouse?

You might need to go back to xf86-input-evdev, but I would check the libinput documentation first.

Offline t18

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2024, 10:16:43 AM »
It seems not to be any track of serial devices on the Libinput documentation.

I've found somewhere references to evdev + input-attach or xf86-input-mouse (not xf86-input-VMmouse, I guess). Are there packages available on TCL?

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2024, 10:24:20 AM »
Hi t18
Try adding the boot code:
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i8042.nopnpReboot and see if anything changed.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2024, 10:48:55 AM »
You would need to build xf86-input-evdev, see http://www.tinycorelinux.net/7.x/x86/tcz/src/xf86-input-evdev/ or xf86-input-mouse.

It might be easier to install tc-5.x and see if it’s going to work first.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2024, 02:16:55 PM »
Hi t18
Try adding the boot code:
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i8042.nopnpReboot and see if anything changed.

Everything slower and no mouse detection.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2024, 02:18:36 PM »
You would need to build xf86-input-evdev, see http://www.tinycorelinux.net/7.x/x86/tcz/src/xf86-input-evdev/ or xf86-input-mouse.

It might be easier to install tc-5.x and see if it’s going to work first.

I'll try 5.x as soon as I find another hard drive.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2024, 10:33:24 PM »
On x86_64 I'm using the last xf86-input-evdev.tcz extension (from TC13) instead of libinput with the current Xorg in TC15 and it works. I haven't tried a serial mouse though. I do know that Xvesa works with serial mice.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2024, 11:17:54 AM »
Installed TCL 5.4 but evdev doesn't detect any pointer.

Installed also xf86-input-mouse without any changes. I haven't found any reference on how configuring it (if necessary). The posts available on the web are generally outdated and it's difficult to align them to a specific Xorg version.

Yes, Xvesa supports serial mice but the available screen resolutions are lower than on Xorg.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2024, 11:33:31 AM »
Do you need something like this:
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Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
# Option     "Protocol" "auto"
# Option     "Device" "/dev/mouse"
# Option     "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
    Option "Protocol"    "Microsoft"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/ttyS0"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2024, 10:45:32 PM »
I can't find the exact man pages for the Xorg version in TC15, but this is for Debian with Xorg 21.1.7 vs 21.1.9 in TC15:
xorg.conf(5)
mouse(4)
evdev(4)
libinput(4)

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #13 on: Today at 05:11:08 AM »
I can't find the exact man pages for the Xorg version in TC15...

It seems some pages are just missing.

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Re: Can the recent Xorg detect a serial mouse?
« Reply #14 on: Today at 05:19:17 AM »
Do you need something like this:
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Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Mouse0"
    Driver      "mouse"
# Option     "Protocol" "auto"
# Option     "Device" "/dev/mouse"
# Option     "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
    Option "Protocol"    "Microsoft"
    Option "Device"      "/dev/ttyS0"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons"
EndSection

Putting it in a 01-mouse.conf file, either alone or along with the above posted InputClass, has no effect.

Also putting Xorg-7.7 after the xf86-input-mouse entry in onboot.lst has no effect.

Finally, I haven't found the manner to disable hotplugging without locking the whole system.

Attached is my Xorg.0.log.