dillo website is gone

[nick65go]

On 27/06/2022 I tried to access https://www.dillo.org/. but its website is gone, with the message "This domain is pending renewal or has expired. Please contact the domain provider with questions". Same for https://hg.dillo.org/dillo/
Oh boy, sic transit gloria mundi.

PS: We still have the web archive machine (for now) - to travel back in time. Or the https://github.com/orsenthil/dillo
But the lesson is we can NOT relay on "internet" to be "forever" free/online/accessible for all mortals. Rob Landley (toybox designer) knows this very well in a painfully way.

[gadget42]

https://www.landley.net/index.html

and just for fun(Eric S. Raymond!):
http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/world-domination/world-domination-201.html

20220628-2131-modified-added fun link

[CNK]

Yeah it's been gone for a while, all this month at least. A similar thing happened a couple of years ago so it might come back. The domain has been renewed (by someone) in spite of that message.

Unfortunately the Wayback Machine didn't grab all of the mailing list archive.

I don't see very much actual development going on in any of the various GitHub versions.

[gadget42]

visited https://www.dillo.org/ on 20220924-0130am.
the website resolved but definitely has a different(new?) look.
at the bottom of the homepage there was a link to a "buying guide"
felt like it had been copied from somewhere else(didn't try to verify that hypothesis).
link: https://www.dillo.org/most-secure-laptops-guide/

the download webpage has a link that resolves back to itself?
https://www.dillo.org/download.html

there is a search box on that webpage so gave that a try with "jorge"
https://www.dillo.org/?s=jorge&submit=Search

looks like all the results for that search show the same date(AUGUST 19, 2022)
it is a reasonable assumption that the website came back online around that timeframe.

also visited the FAQ:
https://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html

especially noted:
https://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q10
https://www.dillo.org/FAQ.html#q11

there were references to a mailing list but that webpage just resolves back to itself:
https://www.dillo.org/MList.html

also note that from the "source repository" webpage:
https://www.dillo.org/source.html

the referenced website did NOT resolve(http://hg.dillo.org)-20220924-0130am

did NOT attempt to establish contact with any of these:
https://www.dillo.org/authors/jcid-email.html
https://www.dillo.org/authors/jviksell-email.html
https://www.dillo.org/authors/webmaster-email.html

also noted that the "author" of the "secure laptops" piece (xr9va) wasn't listed:
https://www.dillo.org/authors/xr9va-email.html
(Nothing found - Apologies, but no entries were found)

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20220924-0217am-modified-fixed a typo

[CNK]

looks like all the results for that search show the same date(AUGUST 19, 2022)
it is a reasonable assumption that the website came back online around that timeframe.

Yes, I noticed it back up again in late August. I was hoping things like the mailing list (which unfortunately wasn't much archived by the Wayback Machine) and source code repo might pop up again later, but it seems that it's just someone's half-hearted effort.

Although the domain didn't technically expire, it seems like the domain hosting service re-sold it to someone. They've just crudely copied bits of the old website into a Wordpress template (which ironically doesn't work properly with Dillo's limited CSS support), and now they've started using it as their own blog. I expect their reason is that the dillo.org domain probably gets high search engine rankings.

The fact that after a month they still haven't even fixed the download link for Dillo shows that they don't really care about the browser itself, unfortunately.

[vinceASPECT]

That is a shame then

Dillo browser will be , no more.... then?

thx
C

[gadget42]

if you have stumbled upon this thread where past commentary/experiences/etc regarding Dillo Web Browser were related...

please see:
https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,26782.0.html

which references:
https://dillo-browser.github.io/
and:
https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo

and also note the Warning at the bottom of that github_dot_com webpage:

Warning - As of December 2023, the host dillo.org is no longer under control of Dillo developers. A copy of the website from May 2022 is archived in the Wayback Machine. (https://web.archive.org/web/20220508022123/https://www.dillo.org/)

so for the longterm foreseeable future, all the _old_ instances of Dillo will have links that don't resolve to the current project...sigh(isn't the first and won't be the last)

a further note - probably would be a good idea to redo TCL Dillo to reflect current/correct web links(assuming that that hasn't already been done circa this webpost)
here is a link to the latest about.c file:
https://github.com/dillo-browser/dillo/blob/master/src/IO/about.c

20240213-0403am-cst-usa-modified-added link to about.c file webpage

[gadget42]

stumbled down a rabbithole and wanted to post this additional webpage link:

https://dillo-browser.github.io/latest.html

Snippet:

Since the last release 3.0.5 from 2015 a lot of things have happened to the Dillo project. Here is a short timeline to put things into perspective:
On 2016, the main developer of the layout engine, Sebastian Geerken, passed away.
On 2017, the development stopped.
On 2019, the last email from Jorge Arellano Cid, the lead developer of Dillo, was recorded by the mailing list.
On 2022, the domain dillo.org was lost.
On 2024, an attempt to resurrect the project began by Rodrigo Arias Mallo.

Note: additonal information and links available at that webpage

Hat-tip:
https://640kb.neocities.org/index.the.light.web

20240418-0551am-cdt-usa-modified: additional note to add that i still use Dillo daily for various purposes/reasons

[gadget42]

just a quick note. there are three dillo offerings available via TinyCoreLinux at the present/post time. only the dillo.tcz has an accurate about:splash frontpage. accurate and current as per https://dillo-browser.github.io/dillo.org.html request.

the other two offerings, dillo-beta.tcz and dillo-xft.tcz, both have the old splash with the bad links. at the very least these should be removed until they can be modified/corrected/etc so that we respect the requests of the remaining developers.

quote snippet from https://dillo-browser.github.io/dillo.org.html

What happened to dillo.org?
Written on 2024-03-31.

Summary

The domain dillo.org expired in 2022 and shortly after someone bought it and placed a Wordpress blog with spam posts and some content copied from the original Dillo website. Please, don't link to dillo.org, use instead the new website https://dillo-browser.github.io/. There is also a copy of the original old website in case you need to link to an old page.
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