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Using microcore with xorg-xvesa-lite and xbdev
bmarkus:
How to use Xorg confless? It is clear, that a working HAL system is required when Xorg starts. What else? Any practial advice welcome, especially a conf file example.
tclfan:
--- Quote from: ^thehatsrule^ on August 05, 2009, 01:13:56 PM ---Apparently hal can be used for input related things... don't know whether or not it would require compiling though
@TCLFAN: did you try Xorg in TC?
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Sorry, I did not have a chance yet, working long days with hardly any window for fun. I can only rely on others' positive reports...
Accidentally I just read that the new Austrumi (1.9.4) has also full support for ATI, Intel and nVidia chips, which is surprising for Initramfs run-all-from-memory little Linux. I did not have the time to test how good it is either, but one thing I know by now: Nothing matches Tiny Core's architecture and network support (not even SliTaz), so Tiny Core is a new star and deserves special care. Therefore I see video as the next frontier here, in order not to limit this gem to special purpose systems...
bmarkus:
Made some experiments, result is interesting.
Actually I am using Xorg.
- Exited to command
- Deleted all files in /etc/X11 now it is empty.
- Stopped HAL
- Entered 'startx'
No error message, display is the same as before. Everything looks fine, and still /etc/X11 is empty
Hm.... .
Strange. maybe some caching? Repeating it with HAL running result is the same.
EDIT: Not strange, this is the confless feature. No cache, just autodiscovery!
bmarkus:
Xorg is using a hardware discovery based on different sources, HAL is just one of them. It is true, that 'Xorg -configure' works fine to create xorg.conf without HAL.
Now the question is, if Xorg can create the config file, why do you need the config file to use Xorg?
Answer is simple, you do not need it! This is the confless Xorg setup ;)
xorg.conf is used only to override result of the discovery, as it has the largest priority, so you can correct false detection or add extra features. It makes the Xorg setup much more easier than described in the WIKI in fact :-*, modification of .xsession must be enough, expecting prerequsits installed.
Another benefit of confless is that it works at startup, so using the same USB stick on a different machine will adapt Xorg to the present hardware.
^thehatsrule^: thanks a lot for mentioning confless, I didn't know this feature.
^thehatsrule^:
The wiki? Did you mean the .info?
In any case, I think the steps were described like this to cover the most general cases... I recall some confless problems with some framebuffer things a while ago (perhaps not a problem now).
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