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Using microcore with xorg-xvesa-lite and xbdev
bmarkus:
--- Quote from: ^thehatsrule^ on August 05, 2009, 04:04:36 AM ---slightly OT: iirc, there is the (recent) xorg.confless feature of xorg, but it relies on hal
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Sounds interesting, thanks. HAL is available now, however just to have Xorg configured it seems to be overkilling to use HAL and its dependencies, at least in TC terms :) But if you have all these ingredients already there because of a desktop environment for example, it would be whorth to try.
Is it available with the current Xorg package in the repo or it must be recompiled with this feature?
Jason W:
I think the ability to use Xorg without a config file has been around since about version 7.2, I was using it a couple of years ago. And I have used Xorg without a config file in TC when hal is not installed.
I have many machines, and I have had a hit or miss experience with live distros like slax that automatically configure full blown X. Slax offers a vesa mode of X to accomodate machines that will not autoconfigure.
Also, slax uses KDE which makes it easy to select the preferred X resolution. TC's typical window managers to not offer such convenience, which would require the user to manually edit xorg.conf anyway to achieve desired results.
bmarkus:
--- Quote from: Jason W on August 05, 2009, 07:43:01 AM ---Also, slax uses KDE which makes it easy to select the preferred X resolution. TC's typical window managers to not offer such convenience, which would require the user to manually edit xorg.conf anyway to achieve desired results.
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For sure autoconfig is not a 100% solution but in most cases you can accept it without adjustment. If not, in worst case you can go back to the actual VESA mode, its easy. My view is that there are more pros that cons and it would increase user satisfaction. Or go for Xfce4, there is also a disply config tool :)
For example my desktop works fine with VESA, but the laptop display is so ugly that I have to use Xorg if want to survive using it regularly, not only for short testing.
VESA is safe and a must have, but for me only the second option.
tclfan:
From end user perspective I would add my two cents and support the opinion of Bmarkus. Correct resolution display is very important on LCD monitors. For testing or occasional use one could put up with ugly display on laptops but it is hard to suffer such for extended period.
E.g. Zenwalk, which is a well put together light LiveCD (Nothing is as light as TCL!), based on SLAX, appears to correctly and automatically configure display resolution using xorg. Furthermore, it appears to me that Austrumi, which is another small and light, run entirely in memory (Initramfs, like Slitaz and TCL) might be using xorg too, although I may be wrong on this one, inferring this conclusion only from resolution behavior...
None of the distros I know is architected as well (IMHO) as Tiny Core, but in the area of display support perhaps work done by others could be somehow leveraged to further improve user experience... If it is not too much to ask considering already fantastic achievement...
^thehatsrule^:
Apparently hal can be used for input related things... don't know whether or not it would require compiling though
@TCLFAN: did you try Xorg in TC?
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