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PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« on: January 16, 2022, 09:12:27 AM »
PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News

https://www.pine64.org/2022/01/15/january-update-more-news/

perhaps a bounty might be offered for a working TinyCorePhone...thoughts?

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2022, 12:29:34 PM »
Well, even with the officially recommended distros, the usability as a phone is quite bad (see many reviews). TC has no work at all to run as a phone. So I wonder what the advantage would be?

If you want TC in your pocket, an ultrabook or a pocket computer like the GPD ones may be better.
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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2022, 11:34:18 PM »
A few months ago, I bought a pinephone with the "convergence package", knowing full well that the operating systems - all of them, including the pre-installed Manjaro - are beta level (at best).

The hardware itself seems to be just fine but there's been little progress in the software moving toward full usability.  Of course it doesn't help any that I've been using TC for so long that I barely know how to navigate the desktops on some of the heavier distros.

The operating systems I've tried all seem to boot ok, but various bits of functionality and usability just aren't there - At the application level, none of the operating systems has a usable camera app nor a usable POP3 client.  At a lower level, other bits of functionality/usability are lacking also.  Something as seemingly simple as the date/time setting widget not working, for instance.  So I haven't even activated my simm card in order to try out actually making calls and such - there's no point until I can use it more fully.  So it's a $200 dollar toy at this point.

Assuming the operating systems for the "PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition" are in a similar state (which I think is a good assumption), I wouldn't recommend paying twice as much for the newer model because the hardware does not seem to be the limiting factor.

I downloaded a handful of updated OS images just yesterday - postmarketos, opensuse, manjaro, mobian and maemo-leste - but I haven't tried them out yet.  I'm not optimistic as it's only been a couple of weeks since the last time I tried them, but I'll post here if I see some success.

In the mean time, TC on the pinephone would be fantastic even if it -didn't- have all of the telephony stuff.

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2022, 03:19:37 AM »
Could you elaborate why? TC does not have any touch interface either. An old-style touch screen, with a stylus, works fine, but a finger is too inaccurate for computer-sized UI elements.
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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2022, 06:30:18 AM »
Hello there F,

There is that one  (OS)

https://postmarketos.org/download/

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2022, 10:33:02 AM »
more phone info:

Rooting an Eos Fairphone 4:
https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/11154.html

also see:
https://diziet.dreamwidth.org/tag/phone

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2022, 06:06:31 AM »
didn't want to start another thread but
this commentary was informative regarding
freedomphone, clearsignal, clearos,
clearunited, clearfoundation, etc...

https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/59479.html

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The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2022, 06:07:50 AM »
with reference to fairphone, pinephone, and/or purism...comment from "Diane Trout"

https://anarc.at/blog/2020-07-13-not-recommending-purism/#comment-a7f0bae05759907cd0ff84401ad2d54e

as an aside, also enjoyed a more recent piece:
(and our experience is/was quite similar)

https://anarc.at/blog/2022-05-13-brtfs-notes/

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20220514-0522am-adding an additional reference link for reader convenience:
https://anarc.at/hardware/laptop/purism-librem13v4/

20220514-0534am-another one...sharing is caring
https://anarc.at/hardware/curie/
« Last Edit: May 14, 2022, 06:34:08 AM by gadget42 »
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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2022, 03:32:24 PM »
didn't want to start a new thread but did want to add this regarding librem from a debconf attendee:

https://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/On_a_road_to_Prizren_with_a_Free_Software_Phone.html
The fluctuation theorem has long been known for a sudden switch of the Hamiltonian of a classical system Z54 . For a quantum system with a Hamiltonian changing from... https://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25972.msg166580.html#msg166580

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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2023, 11:08:38 AM »
as before, didn't want to start yet another thread so adding this here...

pine phone pro first impression

https://etbe.coker.com.au/2023/06/06/pinephonepro-first-impression/
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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2023, 01:54:37 PM »
HEllo,

There will be a lot of .....PINE -- ing ...  incase  they  SELL  well...........

yikes.............


..........O___o.........

Thx.
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Re: PinePhone Pro Explorer Edition - Pine64 - January 2022 News
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2023, 07:35:05 AM »
HEllo,

There will be a lot of .....PINE -- ing ...  incase  they do not SELL  well...........

yikes.............


..........O___o.........

Thx