Various questions after installation

[windundgeist]

Hi

Unfortunately I see that a lot of the documentation is out of date. I have still no access to the wiki. There are many posts in the forum, some are very old and out of date, others are very new and useful, for example how to delete an extension with the new version of apps. With an outdated documentation, that you are asked to read in several places, you only provoke many forum entries and a lot of support-time! But for now it's just like that, which is why I'm posting a summary of my questions here to make it easier for you:

After I installed TinyCore, with the help of a CorePlus USB stick, some questions came up:

1. Is it important for the installation which option I use to boot CorePlus from USB? I chose the first option.

2. I see that my installation does not exactly match the TinyCore documentation. I have a tce folder and IN IT are the folders boot, onedemand, optional and 5 files. Is this ok?

3. Since I use TinyCore as a second installation on my notebook, I have a Grub2 with a menu. I edit the menu with a "Grub-Customizer" tool. There I made a menu point for TinyCore and added the following code:

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search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root "d4210083-19e6-48bb-a400-925ea377a71d"

linux /tce/boot/vmlinuz quiet waitusb=5
initrd /tce/boot/core.gz
TinyCore boots and I don't see any errors. Still the question is, is this code sufficient?

4. I have a Latinamerica keyboard and want to "install" it. How do I toggle this? How can I set the correct setting for my keyboard, permanently?

5. I have seen that many applications are not up to date, Chromium for example. I would like to have at least the most important applications up to date. Is there an easy way to install packages from other distributions, debian for example? If not, can I convert a Debian package to run in TInyCore (or is there some kind of emulator)? If so, how and where do I have to place it? I tried this instructions, but unfortunately they don't work.

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23595.0.html

http://tinycorelinux.net/9.x/x86_64/tcz/src/chromium-browser/

The first line reports that "things" do not exist. I installed these one by one with apps. But I can't find all of them, for example jdk8 and ncurses5.

Second line seems to work.

The third and fourth lines do not give any output in the terminal.

The fifth line reports "no such directory".

I didn't try any further. Is there a beginner's guide that works?

If it works, will the new Chromium be updated? Or do I have to repeat the procedure every time I want the newest version?

6. Is there an automatic updater, like in many Linux distros, which updates both the applications and the system, once a week or depending on the setting? I ask because I might want to get an old computer working again for a friend. And the friend has no chance of doing manual things.

Well, those are the most important questions at the moment. I hope you accept that I wrote them all in one post

[Rich]

Hi windundgeist

...  I have still no access to the wiki. ...

A mirror to the Wiki can be found here:
http://wiki.tinycorelinux.net/doku.php?id=wiki:start

... 1. Is it important for the installation which option I use to boot CorePlus from USB? I chose the first option. ...

I think the only difference is which window manager gets installed if you tell it to install a GUI.

... 2. I see that my installation does not exactly match the TinyCore documentation. I have a tce folder and IN IT are the folders boot, onedemand, optional and 5 files. Is this ok? ...

Sounds right.

... 4. I have a Latinamerica keyboard and want to "install" it. How do I toggle this? How can I set the correct setting for my keyboard, permanently? ...

To change the keyboard for the console:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,23698.msg148623.html#msg148623
To change the keyboard for X:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,24862.msg158997.html#msg158997

... Is there an easy way to install packages from other distributions, debian for example? If not, can I convert a Debian package to run in TInyCore (or is there some kind of emulator)? ...

No and no. Maybe you want to take a look at the dCore sections of the forum:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php#c13

... 6. Is there an automatic updater, ...

No, but the  Apps  utility in the GUI has a  Maintenance->Check for Updates  menu selection available.

Or you can do it with these commands:

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tce-audit builddb
tce-audit updatedeps
tce-audit fetchmissing
tce-updateThose 4 steps compare your installed extensions to the ones available in the repository. If there is a newer version
available, it gets downloaded. The next time you boot, the old version is replaced with the new version prior to loading
any extensions.

Now reboot:

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exitcheck.sh reboot

[windundgeist]

@Rich

Thank you so much :-). Now I have the information from wiki, hope that will help. I'll work on it tomorrow :-)

So updates are only done on the extensions? The Core itself I have to do with download the new version and then replace the 2 files core.gz and vmlinuz?

Which browser can you recommend that is quite up-to-date?

[Rich]

Hi windundgeist
The  core.gz  and  vmlinuz  files only get updated during the initial release period. There are no updates between releases.
So yes, replace the 2 files manually.

For a browser,  firefox_getlatest.tcz  fetches the latest Firefox and creates an extension from it.

[windundgeist]

@Rich

Thank you again :-)

[Juanito]

I have seen that many applications are not up to date, Chromium for example. I would like to have at least the most important applications up to date.

application extensions are user submitted - you could pm the maintainer and request an update

[windundgeist]

Hi

After a few days' break and an antiX installation, I'm back here.

antiX is a good thing and I've found a distro for extended needs.

In the meantime my old notebook developed bigger problems. It seems to be the BIOS or the chip, or it is the processor. But luckily I got a new old notebook, also with 1GB Ram, 2010 year, Toshiba Satelite.

And there is obviously a problem. When I boot coreplus from USB, I get this after the menu

Wrong EFI loader signature
early console in extract kernel
input data 0x0071d0ae
input len ​​0x0049a1d1
output 0x00100000
output len ​​0x009be788
kernel total 0x00ad400
needet size 0x00ad400
Decompressing linux ... parsing elf ... no relocation needed ... done
Booting the kernel

At this point the boot waits about 2 minutes, then it goes on with the colored lines and works. After the frugal installation I boot from the hard disk and the above messages appear again, with a waiting time of 2 minutes. Then the colored lines and something like

PHY driver ... initrams

The installation seems to work, however, tested for a few minutes.

What do I have to do to repair the boot and avoid the waiting time?

Here the inxi -Fxzr made with antiX

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$ inxi -Fxzr
System:
  Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.235-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64
  compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.8.3
  Distro: antiX-19.3_x64-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite L305 v: PSLB8U-0SVAR1
  serial: <filter>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC serial: <filter> BIOS: INSYDE v: 1.80
  date: 03/20/2009
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 18.8 Wh condition: 19.2/22.2 Wh (86%)
  model: PA3533U-1BRS status: Charging
CPU:
  Topology: Single Core model: Intel 585 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core Merom
  rev: D L2 cache: 1024 KiB
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 bogomips: 4322
  Speed: 2161 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2161
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel
  bus ID: 00:02.0
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
  direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet
  vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems RTL810xE driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI
  port: 2000 bus ID: 02:00.0
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8187B Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rtl8187
  bus ID: 2-6:2
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 8.83 GiB (5.9%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1600BEVS-26VAT0
  size: 149.05 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 77.25 GiB used: 8.83 GiB (11.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
  1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main nonfree nosystemd
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
  1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ buster main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
  1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vivaldi.list
  1: deb http://repo.vivaldi.com/stable/deb/ stable main
Info:
  Processes: 162 Uptime: 6m Memory: 927.4 MiB used: 506.3 MiB (54.6%)
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
  inxi: 3.0.36
Will be back tomorrow ...

[windundgeist]

Doesn't anyone have any idea why I have this waiting time at the boot?

[Rich]

Hi windundgeist

... with a waiting time of 2 minutes. Then the colored lines and something like

PHY driver ... initrams ...

If you are going to report messages sent to the screen,  "something like"  is not good enough. You are asking people to
look for answers based on something that may not be true.
Spelling counts. Punctuation counts. Capitalization counts. Syntax counts.

Add the boot codes  printk.time=1 syslog  to your bootloaders config file. It goes on the line that contains the word  quiet.
Reboot.

When the system comes back up:

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dmesg > dmesg.txt

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cp /var/log/messages messages.txt

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cp /var/log/messages.0 messages0.txt
Attach dmeg.txt, messages.txt, and if it exists messages0.txt to your next post.

[windundgeist]

@Rich

Ok, I'm afraid that the directories you specified do not exist in a TinyCore installation. But I have reinstalled TC and will make a new contribution to it.

[windundgeist]

@Rich

After a while I did it. Have a look here in the new post, please:

http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,25011.0.html