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[Solved] My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« on: January 25, 2021, 08:17:25 PM »
Hi!
At first, I feel sorry that I'm a newbie to Linux and English is a foreign language to me.

Anyway I have a problem on using geany with Xorg-7.7 (on TinyCore 11.1). It's slow especially when I scroll up a text on it.

With Xvesa it's really smooth.
And I used to use Puppy Linux  5.7.0 (on the same PC) where geany (1.23.1) works really fine.

I tried Leafpad and beaver. They had the same problem. And GVim wasn't worse but still bad. L3afpad wasn't bad but not ideal again. The pre-installed 'editor' works perfect, but I need more powerfull undo-redo function at least...
Using jwm instead flwm made no change.

My laptop is DELL Inspiron 1210(Intel Atom Z530).
And here's my onboot.lst.

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kmaps.tcz
xf86-video-intel.tcz
xf86-video-intel-i810.tcz
graphics-5.4.3-tinycore.tcz
Xorg-7.7.tcz
Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz
aterm.tcz
flwm.tcz
ttf-bitstream-vera.tcz
geany.tcz

I'm almost giving up finding a solution for the problem now. Because I feel Xvesa is acceptable to me for now.
But if someone happens to know about the problem(and the solution for it. Maybe I'm just missing some basic things? or some relevant information in this forum?), please give me a hint. Thanks!

« Last Edit: February 01, 2021, 07:17:07 PM by Rich »

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 01:18:00 AM »
Hi, elf!

I use TinyCore on the laptops with Atom Z-series too (mine are ASUS 1201HA with Z520) so I will be able to test some solutions if needed. Z-series is equipped with GMA500 video subsystem, which is not Intel video (!). It has absolutely no 3d features - at all.

1. Have You tried not loading Xorg-7.7-3d in onboot.lst? I expect it is absolutely unnecessary.
2. xf86-video-intel and xf86-video-intel-i810 includes different versions of the same librariess, so I think You need to choose one of these extensions, probably xf86-video-intel.
3. Try to move graphics-5.4.3-tinycore to the top of Your onboot.lst

One more qestion: have You tried TC10? There are some differences in how kernel treats GMA500 between TC10 and TC11 not in favor of the last.

Have a nice Core!

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2021, 09:34:15 AM »
This one?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dell_Inspiron_Mini_Series

That says the laptop uses Poulsbo graphics (PowerVR, which Intel just rebadged for those models). There is no good driver for that, -i810 and -intel only work for real Intel chips. You're going to use vesa or modesetting with Xorg, or Xvesa. Your list doesn't include xf86-video-vesa, so you're probably using modesetting right now.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2021, 10:59:59 AM »
xf86-video-vesa is among the dependencies of Xorg-7.7.

I've compared geany under Xorg and Xfbdev. Under Xorg scrolling up is very slow, while scrolling down is fast enough, even can say fast. Under Xfbdev both directions have the same speed of scrolling, something between scrolling speeds under Xorg. Probably geany is trying use for scrolling up some functions, which are absent. In both cases were loaded graphics-5.4.3-tinycore as the very first extension, Xorg or Xfbdev, then other desktop stuff.
I've tried firefox and seamonkey-noSSE2, they shows smooth scrolling. I felt no differences, depending on the X server.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2021, 11:23:10 AM by jazzbiker »

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2021, 09:26:45 PM »
Hello, jazzbiker & curaga! Thank you for your replies!

First of all, I didn't notice about GMA500's disadvantages. Interesting! Fortunately I don't need 3D graphics and expect so much 2D graphics power on this machine.

   to jazzbiker:
Yeah, I had tried all of your suggestions about "onboot.lst" pattern, but things were same...
And now I tried TC10(and TC6 which seems have rather near release date with PuppyLinux 5.7.0.), but same old same old...
Xfbdev's response to mouse wheel scroll is nice! But to keybord is terrible, isn't it?
I'm guessing that this phenomenon has something to do with GTK's editable text area(or something like that).
And I'm wondering what's the difference between TinyCore and the (old) Puppy...
Anyway thanks for your suggestions and tries! They were really informative to me!
(And sorry, maybe I'm misunderstanding your last post because of my English skill... I couldn't catch "among the dependencies" and "In both cases were loaded..." well.)

   to curaga:

Yes, that's what I have!

Poulsbo! Ahh, so my Xorg.0.log says like...

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[    43.578] (II) LoadModule: "psb"
[    43.579] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psb
[    43.579] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[    43.579] (II) LoadModule: "psbdrv"
[    43.579] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psbdrv
[    43.579] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)

I had wondered "what's psb?" Eureka!

About modesetting, probably you are right. I'm not sure about how to read the log, though...

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[    43.580] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    43.580] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    43.580] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    43.580] compiled for 1.20.6, module version = 1.20.6
[    43.580] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    43.580] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[    43.581] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[    43.581] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[    43.581] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[    43.581] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[    43.582] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[    43.582] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    43.582] compiled for 1.20.0, module version = 2.4.0
[    43.582] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    43.582] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[    43.582] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[    43.582] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa

Anyway thanks for your inspection! I've gotten many good things to know!

« Last Edit: January 26, 2021, 09:32:53 PM by elf »

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2021, 02:15:46 AM »
Hi, elf!

~/.config/geany/geany.conf has no parameter responsible for turning scrolling off. Maybe it can be done while compiling. You can try to build Your own geany without scrolling, if it is possible.

English is not my native language, too, that's why my posts may not be understandable well, sorry.

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2021, 02:36:04 PM »
Unfortunately https://www.x.org/archive/individual/driver/ directory have no signs of Poulsbo driver :( Is it possible that it is hiding in some xf86-video-intel*.tar.gz?

My current Xorg.log fragment
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[   399.524] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 0
[   399.524] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 1
[   399.524] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[   399.524] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[   399.524] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4
[   399.524] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[   399.524] (II) LoadModule: "psb"
[   399.525] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psb
[   399.525] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[   399.525] (II) LoadModule: "psbdrv"
[   399.526] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psbdrv
[   399.526] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)
[   399.526] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[   399.526] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[   399.527] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   399.527]    compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 1.20.4
[   399.527]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   399.527]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   399.527] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   399.527] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
[   399.528] (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[   399.528] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[   399.528] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[   399.528] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   399.529]    compiled for 1.20.0, module version = 2.4.0
[   399.529]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   399.529]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   399.529] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[   399.529] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   399.529] (--) using VT number 2

Should I use xf86-video-fbdev?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 02:50:23 PM by jazzbiker »

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2021, 03:58:13 PM »
Here is the fragment of Xorg.0.log from Lubuntu 14.04 on the same laptop with acceptable Xorg performance:
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[    39.013] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 0
[    39.013] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 1
[    39.013] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 2
[    39.013] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 3
[    39.013] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 4
[    39.013] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 5
[    39.013] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 6
[    39.013] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[    39.014] (II) LoadModule: "psb"
[    39.111] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psb
[    39.111] (II) UnloadModule: "psb"
[    39.111] (II) Unloading psb
[    39.111] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[    39.111] (II) LoadModule: "psbdrv"
[    39.113] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psbdrv
[    39.113] (II) UnloadModule: "psbdrv"
[    39.113] (II) Unloading psbdrv
[    39.114] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)
[    39.114] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    39.115] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    39.117] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.117]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.18.3
[    39.117]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.117]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.118] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[    39.118] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[    39.132] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.132]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 0.4.4
[    39.132]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.132]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.132] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[    39.134] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[    39.135] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.135]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 2.3.4
[    39.136]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.136]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.136] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 0
[    39.136] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 1
[    39.136] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 2
[    39.136] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 3
[    39.136] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 4
[    39.136] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 5
[    39.136] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 6
[    39.136] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[    39.136] (II) LoadModule: "psb"
[    39.138] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psb
[    39.138] (II) UnloadModule: "psb"
[    39.139] (II) Unloading psb
[    39.139] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[    39.139] (II) LoadModule: "psbdrv"
[    39.149] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psbdrv
[    39.149] (II) UnloadModule: "psbdrv"
[    39.149] (II) Unloading psbdrv
[    39.149] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)
[    39.149] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    39.150] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    39.151] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.151]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.18.3
[    39.151]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.151]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.151] (II) UnloadModule: "modesetting"
[    39.151] (II) Unloading modesetting
[    39.151] (II) Failed to load module "modesetting" (already loaded, 0)
[    39.151] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[    39.157] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[    39.157] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.157]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 0.4.4
[    39.157]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.157]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.157] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[    39.157] (II) Unloading fbdev
[    39.157] (II) Failed to load module "fbdev" (already loaded, 0)
[    39.158] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[    39.159] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[    39.159] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.159]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 2.3.4
[    39.159]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    39.159]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[    39.159] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[    39.159] (II) Unloading vesa
[    39.159] (II) Failed to load module "vesa" (already loaded, 0)
[    39.159] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[    39.168] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[    39.168] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[    39.169] (II) modeset(0): using drv /dev/dri/card0
[    39.169] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
[    39.169] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[    39.169] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[    39.169] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[    39.170] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[    39.186] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    39.187]    compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 0.0.2
[    39.187]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0

Seems, that we need not fbdev, but some fbdevhw driver. Right?

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2021, 04:48:36 PM »
I'm trying to compile xf86-video-fbdev, loaded from  https://www.x.org/archive/individual/driver/ but configure exits upon error:
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configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.0.99.901 xproto fontsproto  randrproto renderproto videoproto) were not met:

Package 'dri', required by 'xorg-server', not found
I've loaded xorg-server-dev, Xorg-7.7-dev. Is it possible to satisfy this dri dependency?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2021, 05:38:37 PM »
Xorg-7.7-3d-dev was needed.

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2021, 06:06:40 PM »
I've built xf86-video-fbdev.tcz, then rebooted and started Xorg with it. Here is Xorg.0.log fragment:
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[   154.651] (==) Matched psb as autoconfigured driver 0
[   154.651] (==) Matched psb_drv as autoconfigured driver 1
[   154.651] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[   154.651] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[   154.651] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4
[   154.651] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[   154.651] (II) LoadModule: "psb"
[   154.652] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psb
[   154.652] (EE) Failed to load module "psb" (module does not exist, 0)
[   154.652] (II) LoadModule: "psbdrv"
[   154.653] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module psbdrv
[   154.653] (EE) Failed to load module "psbdrv" (module does not exist, 0)
[   154.653] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[   154.653] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[   154.660] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   154.660]    compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 1.20.4
[   154.660]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   154.660]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   154.660] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   154.661] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[   154.669] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   154.669]    compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 0.5.0
[   154.669]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   154.669]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   154.669] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[   154.670] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[   154.672] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   154.672]    compiled for 1.20.0, module version = 2.4.0
[   154.672]    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   154.672]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   154.672] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[   154.672] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[   154.672] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   154.672] (--) using VT number 2

[   154.748] (II) modeset(0): using drv /dev/dri/card0
[   154.748] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[   154.748] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[   154.748] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[   154.749] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[   154.751] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   154.751]    compiled for 1.20.4, module version = 0.0.2
[   154.751]    ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 24.0
[   154.752] (II) modeset(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
        "Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[   154.752] (==) modeset(0): Depth 24, (==) framebuffer bpp 32
[   154.752] (==) modeset(0): RGB weight 888
[   154.752] (==) modeset(0): Default visual is TrueColor
seems ok, and fbdevhw present. But geany up-scrolling is still dumb. Maybe other drivers must be blacklisted or some Xorg.conf editing is necessary?

Here is lsmod:
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Module                  Size  Used by    Not tainted
ccm                    16384  3
snd_hda_codec_realtek    61440  1
snd_hda_codec_generic    40960  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel          24576  0
snd_hda_codec          57344  3 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_core           36864  4 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep              12288  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm                49152  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer              20480  1 snd_pcm
snd                    36864  7 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore              12288  1 snd
cpufreq_powersave      12288  0
cpufreq_userspace      12288  0
cpufreq_conservative    12288  0
ath9k                  61440  0
mac80211              237568  1 ath9k
gma500_gfx             69632  2
ath9k_common           12288  1 ath9k
ath9k_hw              368640  2 ath9k,ath9k_common
drm_kms_helper         86016  1 gma500_gfx
i2c_isch               12288  0
drm                   212992  4 gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper
ath                    24576  3 ath9k,ath9k_common,ath9k_hw
cfg80211              167936  4 ath9k,mac80211,ath9k_common,ath
agpgart                24576  1 drm
fb_sys_fops            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
syscopyarea            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt              12288  1 drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit           12288  1 gma500_gfx
squashfs               28672 128
zstd_decompress        53248  1 squashfs
xxhash                 16384  1 zstd_decompress
loop                   20480 256
wmi_bmof               12288  0
asus_wmi               20480  0
sparse_keymap          12288  1 asus_wmi
pcspkr                 12288  0
serio_raw              12288  0
video                  28672  2 gma500_gfx,asus_wmi
backlight              12288  2 asus_wmi,video
battery                16384  0
ac                     12288  0
lpc_sch                12288  0
wmi                    16384  2 wmi_bmof,asus_wmi
acpi_cpufreq           12288  1
« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 06:12:33 PM by jazzbiker »

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2021, 08:20:59 PM »
Hi, jazzbiker!
I can't appriciate you more! and I'm feeling terribly sorry...

About xf86-video-fbdev.tcz, TinyCore 6 repo has it, but the module version wasn't compatible with TinyCore 11.
So I checked Xorg.0.log of TC6.

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[    41.658] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    41.659] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    41.662] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    41.662] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 1.17.1
[    41.662] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    41.662] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[    41.662] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[    41.663] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[    41.669] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    41.669] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 0.4.4
[    41.669] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    41.669] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[    41.669] (II) LoadModule: "vesa"
[    41.670] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.so
[    41.673] (II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    41.673] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 2.3.3
[    41.673] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    41.673] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[    41.673] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[    41.673] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[    41.673] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[    41.673] (--) using VT number 2

[    41.703] (II) modeset(0): using drv /dev/dri/card0
[    41.703] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[    41.703] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[    41.703] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[    41.704] (II) Loading /usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[    41.705] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    41.705] compiled for 1.17.1, module version = 0.0.2
[    41.705] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 19.0
[    41.706] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa

In my case, loading fbdevhw failed after all. Hmm...

And here's Puppy's Xorg.0.log. This might be irrelevant information. It seems be using rather different libs from TC(and your Lubuntu).

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[    35.465] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
[    35.465] (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
[    35.465] (II) "glx" will be loaded by default.
[    35.465] (II) "record" will be loaded by default.
[    35.465] (II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
[    35.465] (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.
[    35.465] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[    35.471] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[    35.492] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.492] compiled for 1.12.2, module version = 1.6.2
[    35.492] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    35.492] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[    35.492] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
[    35.493] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
[    35.507] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.507] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.0.0
[    35.507] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[    35.507] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.507] (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[    35.507] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
[    35.508] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
[    35.523] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.523] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.0.0
[    35.523] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[    35.523] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[    35.523] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
[    35.523] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[    35.524] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[    35.550] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.550] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.0.0
[    35.550] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.560] (==) AIGLX enabled
[    35.560] (II) Loading extension GLX
[    35.560] (II) LoadModule: "record"
[    35.561] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
[    35.561] (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.561] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.13.0
[    35.561] Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[    35.561] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.562] (II) Loading extension RECORD
[    35.562] (II) LoadModule: "dri"
[    35.563] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
[    35.585] (II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.585] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.0.0
[    35.585] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.585] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
[    35.585] (II) LoadModule: "dri2"
[    35.586] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
[    35.587] (II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.587] compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 1.2.0
[    35.587] ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 6.0
[    35.587] (II) Loading extension DRI2
[    35.587] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[    35.587] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so
[    35.597] (II) Module modesetting: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.597] compiled for 1.12.2, module version = 0.4.0
[    35.597] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[    35.597] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
[    35.597] (II) LoadModule: "kbd"
[    35.598] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/kbd_drv.so
[    35.611] (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.611] compiled for 1.12.1, module version = 1.6.1
[    35.611] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    35.611] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[    35.611] (II) LoadModule: "mouse"
[    35.613] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/mouse_drv.so
[    35.613] (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.613] compiled for 1.12.1, module version = 1.7.2
[    35.613] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    35.613] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[    35.613] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[    35.615] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[    35.615] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    35.615] compiled for 1.12.2, module version = 1.6.2
[    35.615] Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    35.615] ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 16.0
[    35.615] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[    35.615] (--) using VT number 4

[    35.653] (**) modeset(0): claimed PCI slot 0@0:2:0
[    35.653] (II) modeset(0): using default device



Now that I know you have same experience on your ASUS machine, I have some feeling like
"So be it! Anyway this happens not only to me. I might be able to go with this awkward scroll movement!"
So, unless you are willing to go further about this problem for yourself, please don't use your resources any more!
Of course, I will keep searching and studying about this glitch my own pace. It's fun! I believe you have same feeling!
Thank you!

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2021, 11:23:28 PM »
The psb driver was a binary blob that only worked on a specific old version of Ubuntu.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2021, 02:33:06 AM »
I've captured lsmod-s on above mentioned Lubuntu 14.04 and TinyCore 10.1 (graphics-KERNEL loaded) and cleaned them manually from everything not dealing with graphics. Here's what I've got:
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tc@box:~/sh/lsmod/edited$ cat lu.sorted
drm                   307200  4 drm_kms_helper,gma500_gfx
drm_kms_helper        135168  1 gma500_gfx
fb_sys_fops            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
gma500_gfx            217088  2
i2c_algo_bit           16384  1 gma500_gfx
i2c_isch               16384  0
syscopyarea            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect            16384  1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt              16384  1 drm_kms_helper
video                  40960  2 gma500_gfx,asus_wmi

and

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tc@box:~/sh/lsmod/edited$ cat tc.sorted
agpgart                24576  1 drm
drm                   212992  4 gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper
drm_kms_helper         86016  1 gma500_gfx
fb_sys_fops            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
gma500_gfx             69632  2
i2c_algo_bit           12288  1 gma500_gfx
i2c_isch               12288  0
syscopyarea            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
sysfillrect            12288  1 drm_kms_helper
sysimgblt              12288  1 drm_kms_helper
video                  28672  2 gma500_gfx,asus_wmi

TC engages agpgart, in Lubuntu gma500_gfx is much bigger. Others seem to be alike. Is the trick inside gma500_gfx?

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Re: My Geany is slow on TC 11.1 + Xorg!
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2021, 05:04:13 AM »
Hi jazzbiker
... TC engages agpgart, in Lubuntu gma500_gfx is much bigger. Others seem to be alike. Is the trick inside gma500_gfx?
Maybe this boot code would help:
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agp=offFound here:
https://mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt#439