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PDP-8:
Here's the beautiful solution which makes this much less of a problem:

One can download and burn dCore 64 bit using dd, commercial windows-only utilities, a mac, or even a Chromebook utilizing the system-restore utility trick to produce a bootable stick.  Disable secure-boot if using windows.  That's all it takes.

From there, you can gather the tools necessary (gparted, grub bootloaders, tc distribution files) and manually build a stick that will be recognized by your target machine upon reboot.  Juanito provided an excellent example on how to do this from the commandline.

So that clears up a chicken-and-egg scenario for a modern user without a pile of vintage gear hanging around.

Obviously one can use any other distro that is burn-n-boot to gather all these tools to make TC, but it's *really* nice to keep it in the family so that dCore will also do this for you now.

Personally, I make my own sticks for uefi-only when I get bored of putting 3rd-party multibooter or other techniques to get TC64 up on a uefi-only environment.

However, I *LIKE* using user-contributed tools, like tc-install or tc-install-gui because I'm enjoy using the work of user-contributed tools, which people put a lot of hard work into.  (currently the installers don't do uefi-only...)

Sure I can bang out a stick on my own using the standard formatting / partitioning / distro files / bootload and config.

But that makes it a sanitized lonely party of one.  When I use the work of others, such as tc-install, I feel part of a community and want to contribute back somehow in my own way, be it additional extensions, whatever.

Burning my own self-partitioned / formatted uefi-only stick is just a technical exercise I can do.  But there's nothing particularly exciting from a community aspect doing so.

PDP-8:

--- Quote from: PDP-8 on August 02, 2020, 05:11:36 PM ---From there, you can gather the tools necessary (gparted, grub bootloaders, tc distribution files) and manually build a stick that will be recognized by your target machine upon reboot.  Juanito provided an excellent example on how to do this from the commandline.
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Oops - forgot to make this clear - you can boot and use dCore to gather tools to make the TinyCorePure64 stick uefi-only bootable manually.

TD15:
I would rather use a minimalistic desktop distro like lxle over tiny core. Tiny core is more suited for very underpowered devices.

Sashank999:
LXLE has its last release on Sep 8, 2019 which is very old. There may be many bugfixes, many drivers, many apps created till now. TCL is updated atleast 2x a year (my opinion). So, I prefer TCL. We have a number of extensions and their creators. We have a base system that is purely pur and doesn't ever clash with other linux systems. TCL can be concentrated into one folder (or a max of 2 if you have grub problems). And unlike their 1 GB ISOs, ours is far more smaller, better and customisable.

PDP-8:
@td15

Actually that is not true about TC being suitable only for underpowered devices.  I think it's unfortunate it gets that rap elsewhere.

Maybe because what many newcomers can't distinguish is that TC (and sisters like dCore / piCore) is that they are not in fact "distros", but toolkits.  Roberts and crew grew away from that responsibility of maintaining the ever-changing world of desktop distributions starting with DSL-N, and instead provided tools so that the end-user decides upon what should be done with TC.

What you do with that toolkit is up to you.  Run it on old or new hardware.  In a vm, or on real hardware.  Anything from a cli-only shell prompt, to the latest that the contributors can package.  Do your own thing.  Make it yours.  Own it.

An interesting thing to note is that many new users come from a world where the "distro" is all they've ever known, and may get frustrated with TC "why can't it be more like X-distro?"

The problem is that only the end user can decide what TC means to them - and how much effort they are willing to put in to make it theirs, and NOT try to merely duplicate what others do.  And don't just rely on forum answers.  Self-reliance from your own discroveries, can be so satisfying.

So give it time - maybe TC will hold your interest sometime later.  Don't try to put TC into some sort of pre-defined box since it isn't a distro.

Just to show I'm not a TC fanboy - get this - half the time I don't want to deal with it all, and I read these forums not from any sort of "competing" distro, but from a Chromebook!

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