Live TC 7.2. on usb stick and macbook: no sound

[Fakir]

Hi folks,

after having managed to get live TC up und running on a macbook (http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,20605.0.html), the only thing which isn't working yet is the sound:

I don't manage to get OSS working (app manager says that installing the actual version fails after downloading, that both for oss.tcz and ossxmix.tcz; when I want to use my old version from mid 2013 the app manager tells me to install oss-modules-4.2.9-tinycore.tcz but I doubt that these exist).

OSS always worked fine without any problem.

Alsa modules and mixer can be installed but don't play any sound.

Are there any other (good ) alternatives to OSS?

Do you have any idea what I could do to solve this?

Julian

[Misalf]

Hi,

You could try  alsa-config.tcz  .

[hiro]

there's only one alternative to oss: alsa. a bad one if you ask me.

[Juanito]

What sound hardware do you have (aplay -l)?

When you load the alsa extension, do you see any error messages?

Do you get any error messages with the alsamixer command? Is the master volume un-muted?

[beerstein]

Hi: OSS is discontinued. I do not use it any more. I suggest: Get rid of it. Stay with Alsa only. I learned from this forum, that Alsa and OSS installed at the same time presents a conflict.
Plse try the following:
1. check sound level and mute on/off using: $ alsamixer
2. Then: $ speaker-test
(when you  hear a noise, alsa is working)

[Fakir]

Some issues can get solved really easily. Obviously I just had to install alsa.conf (before the other alsa components) and then it worked.

Thank you!

[hiro]

Hi: OSS is discontinued. I do not use it any more. I suggest: Get rid of it.

Please provide a source for this claim.

[Misalf]

@hiro,
could you elaborate why ALSA is a bad alternative to OSS?
Do you think it would make sense to provide OSS support?

[curaga]

The git log shows OSS hasn't much activity:
https://sourceforge.net/p/opensound/git/ci/ac48ed061efb79b231e8b998b05264f8b33c4376/log/?path=

Last commit 2015 Feb.

[hiro]

well, ok, the last real feature change was in 2013-10-28 06:45:04 if i read the commit log correctly. after that he only tried to maintain compatibility so it builds on various OS.
but does that mean it doesn't build on recent linux any more?

[curaga]

I don't know, I haven't tried.

[hiro]

@hiro,
could you elaborate why ALSA is a bad alternative to OSS?
Do you think it would make sense to provide OSS support?

Yes indeed, I think OSS works much better out of the box with no special configuration. Configuration, if needed, is a lot more consistent. Quality of the code is higher. Alsa hurts in the ears unless you manage to compile the better resampler or disable resampling altogether. Oss uses the good old standard audio interface and is still compatible with older programs that got written before the incompatible alsa got introduced.
Also, alsa is why pulseaudio exists (pulseaudio is even more sad than alsa, but it only exists because alsa is so useless out of the box).

[coreplayer2]

Since I still had a build script for the last OSS modules built for tc-5.x  I thought I'd give this an attempt.  Unfortunately the git v4.2 has changed significantly resulting in a failed build.   I'll try figure this out since there's requests for it..


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[coreplayer2]

Ok patched for Kernel 4.x the modules built successfully.  these were the x86 modules which I'll try to test with the previous ossxmix etc etc from tc-4.x. and submit to repo.   The thing is did the OP want x86_64 modules & app's for corpure64 for a macbook?

[hiro]

which patches exactly are you talking about? link/revision?