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Offline vatte

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USB sound card fails on long playback
« on: February 17, 2016, 02:42:05 AM »
Sound on PiCore 7.0 and a Raspberry Pi B+ fails with USB sound cards after around 6 hours of playback. It gets "stuck", repeating a buffer over and over again. This does not happen with the internal sound card or a HifiBerry AMP+. Also, the latest Raspbian does not seem to be affected.

This happens on a fresh install with only alsa.tcz and mpg123.tcz from the repositories, when looping an mp3 file with the command "mpg123 --loop -1 file.mp3". I first noticed this problem when playing a wav file with pyalsaaudio, but verified with mpg123 that it does not seem to have anything to do with my script.

Any suggestions? Is the USB sound card driver in Raspbian different from the one in TinyCore?

P.S. I've tested with these two common sound cards which both suffer from the bug:
USB Sound Card 1 on Amazon
USB Sound Card 2 on Amazon
« Last Edit: February 17, 2016, 02:49:14 AM by vatte »

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 03:18:37 AM »
Further testing revealed that the same thing does happen in Raspbian Jessie (updated with only mpg123 package installed). I will move the question also to the Raspberry Pi forums, to see if someone can test and verify the problem there. The problem is a bit difficult to test, as I have to wait ~6 hours before the sound fails.

I also noticed that dmesg has some of these messages in both Raspbian and PiCore, but I don't know what they mean:

usb 1-1.4: 1:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x5

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 04:23:50 PM »
USB Power problem ??
Tried to use the
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max_usb_current=1 in config.txt ??


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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 06:18:35 AM »
Was it a system hang or just the usb card? Often a full hang can cause looping sound.
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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 03:33:37 AM »
I've now confirmed that this bug also happens with Zoom H1 used as a USB sound card. I wonder if all USB sound cards are affected? Easy way to test this: start with a fresh install of piCore 7.0, install alsa, alsa-config and mpg123 from tce, download an mp3 file on the pi and run mpg123 --loop -1 file.mp3. After several hours (~6-7) the sound hangs for me.

USB Power problem ??
Tried to use the
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max_usb_current=1 in config.txt ??
Thanks, I just started a test with this enabled, I'll let you know the result.

Was it a system hang or just the usb card? Often a full hang can cause looping sound.
Definitely not a system hang. In fact I haven't found any logs that would show the sound hanging: The system and audio player software keeps running as if nothing happened. If I close the audio player software the sound stops, and when I run it again it starts playing the sound normally again.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 03:43:58 AM »
It can be an mpg123 bug.
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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2016, 03:51:01 AM »
It can be an mpg123 bug.
I guess it's possible, but unlikely. It doesn't happen with built-in sound + mpg123, and does happen with USB sound and my own script using python+pyalsaaudio. I can do a next test (after usb current fix) with another audio player software that can loop files.
« Last Edit: February 23, 2016, 03:57:48 AM by vatte »

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2016, 10:03:17 AM »
Hi vatte
Does this only happen when looping on one file or does it also happen after 6 to 7 hours of normal play?

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2016, 10:35:07 AM »
Hi Rich,
Do you mean by normal play to play for example a playlist instead of looping one file?

I think the bug is directly related to one process opening the ALSA device and continuously playing sound to it for a long time. Closing the old process and starting a new one seems to restart this 6 hour time, as well as keeping the process open but stopping writes to the ALSA PCM device for several seconds and then resuming them.

I've currently solved it in my application by restarting the python script every 6 hours, but it seems like a hack rather than a real fix, especially as this problem only happens with USB sound cards, + restarting the script produces an audible gap in playback. I'm planning to use an I2S DAC now to have better reliability, but it's still interesting to know what is causing this problem.

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max_usb_current=1
Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm afraid this didn't help, the sound crashed again.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2016, 10:39:51 AM »
Hi vatte
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Do you mean by normal play to play for example a playlist instead of looping one file?
Yes.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2016, 10:58:53 AM »
Hi vatte
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Do you mean by normal play to play for example a playlist instead of looping one file?
Yes.
Can you explain the reason behind this? I need to sometimes play the same file continuously for long periods of time as well. I can try it next, currently I'm testing the looping of one file with VLC instead of mpg123.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2016, 11:22:06 AM »
Hi vatte
Knowing the various ways to produce the fault will aid in finding the source of the problem. Personally I suspect a
subtle bug in mpg123. Possibly something along the line of a variable that unexpectedly wraps around to zero. Or
a signed integer that's being incremented and becomes negative when only positive values were expected.

I'm not really up on MP3s and audio encoding, but if you have a file that was encoded at a different sampling rate,
does it change how long it takes for the fault to appear?


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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2016, 02:37:36 AM »
VLC fails playback in a much shorter time and starts to produce white noise, but this might be completely unrelated.

I'm not convinced the bug is in mpg123. Currently it happens only with USB sound cards and in the same way with:
- mgp123 with mp3 file
- mpg321 with mp3 file
- python script that reads wav file and outputs to ALSA PCM device using pyalsaaudio, nothing to do with the above software

I'll do some more tests soon. If there's a certain software you'd like me to use, please let me know.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2016, 03:03:19 AM »
Hi vatte
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I'm not convinced the bug is in mpg123. Currently it happens only with USB sound cards and in the same way with:
- mgp123 with mp3 file
- mpg321 with mp3 file
I did some checking and mpg321 is not a fork of mpg123 so they don't share a code base. Under PI they do both
depend on  libasound.tcz  under picore 6. Under picore 7 they also both depend on  alsa-modules-4.1.13-piCore+.tcz.
VLC shares those same dependencies in the same way. So you may be right, it could be the library or modules.

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Re: USB sound card fails on long playback
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 04:35:30 AM »
Could it be some memory leak in the library or modules.
Can you do a script loop with some count down.
Maybe some temp files build up ?
Out of swap ?
Why not try to see what files are open with lsof.
And install strace, to trace and see what files are used.
Like:
strace -e trace=open mpg123 file.mp3

And the script like this.
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#!/bin/bash
free -m
START=1
END=1000
for (( c=$START; c<=$END; c++ ))
do
mpg123 file.mp3
done
echo
echo "Boom!"
free -m
« Last Edit: February 24, 2016, 04:58:13 AM by patrikg »