tcwbarconf changes are not permanent

[emninger]

OK, xwbar.lst

Sorry, i do not understand ... 

[gerald_clark]

The file is xwbar.lst, and you have it.

[emninger]

The file is xwbar.lst, and you have it.

But, as far as i understand xwbar.lst contains the items that has been excluded from the wbar. Not those included - at least on this machine it works in that way.

Remains, that ~/.wbarconf contains only basic settings:

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c: wbar --bpress --pos bottom --zoomf 2 --isize 32 but nothing about the apps included to it. Those values are in /usr/local/tce.icons wherefrom controlpanel > tcWbarConf also seems to read (and write) them.

So, one way to make changes permanent would  be to include /usr/local/tce.icons into the backup list (?)

Or, when i delete the symbolic link to tce.icons (~/.wbar) and migrate the settings (by hand) to ~.wbarconf tcWbarConf, then,  would read from that file?

[gerald_clark]

What changes do you want to make permanent?

[emninger]

ControlPanel > tcWbarConf (changes of the order of appearance, excluding also some)

[Misalf]

The config for WBar (/usr/local/tce.icons holds entries for icons) gets rewritten based on installed apps.
Only the basic settings (position, size, etc.) are stored in  ~/.wbarconf .
If you want to add custom icons, you can either abuse the OnDemand feature by adding scripts and icons to  /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/ondemand  or create *.desktop files at  /usr/local/share/applications . The latter would need to be added to the backup or contained in an extension.

[emninger]

Thanks for your answer. Frankly, i only want to change the order of the apps in wbar (no new icons). With the *.desktop option i'm pretty familar

In this context - i do not want to open a new thread on it:
I'm using TCL with fluxbox (which is fine for me and i'm really familiar with). I reflected about installing menumaker or, even better. xdgmenumaker (which is made by gapan on git) but now, i see, the TCL fluxbox automatically updates the program starter by including /usr/local/tce.fluxbox) and /usr/local/tce.fluxbox . Now, just out of curiousity, i'd like to understand HOW TCL builds that files (because as far as i see, they are continously rebuilt along with changing installed programs either onboot or ondemand).

Thanks!

[Misalf]

In order to understand how those icons are created, you should study Core's scripts (/usr/bin/ondemand ,  /usr/bin/tce-*  and  /usr/local/bin/fluxbox_*).

You could use the boot code  noicons  to prevent WBar from being automatically populated with new icons and start WBar manually with a different config file.

[Rich]

Hi emninger
There are also a bunch of  wbar*  files:

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tc@box:~/guilib/grabber/grabber-1.1$ ls /usr/bin/wbar*
/usr/bin/wbar     /usr/bin/wbar_mv_icon  /usr/bin/wbar_setup.sh   /usr/bin/wbarconf
/usr/bin/wbar.sh  /usr/bin/wbar_rm_icon  /usr/bin/wbar_update.sh
tc@box:~/guilib/grabber/grabber-1.1$

[emninger]

In order to understand how those icons are created, you should study Core's scripts (/usr/bin/ondemand ,  /usr/bin/tce-*  and  /usr/local/bin/fluxbox_*).

You could use the boot code  noicons  to prevent WBar from being automatically populated with new icons and start WBar manually with a different config file.

Thanks for the pointer! I'll study the scripts you mention. In any case, i'm close to a somewhat definitive setup. There is still some tweaking needed as for the backup - it's way too big and slow (but i'm anxious to loose my settings ).