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Offline nano

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How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« on: May 19, 2014, 11:52:53 AM »
Hi
I remove wbar and flwm and fltk from onboolt.lst, TinyCore boot but I only have background. :'(
How can I open aterm (with hotkey) or switch to tty2 (like fedora Alt+Ctrl+F2).
Thanks.

Offline gerald_clark

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2014, 11:55:28 AM »
You need a window manager.
You can launch aterm inside of .xsession, but with no window manager, you have no menus, and can't move the xterm around on the  screen.

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2014, 12:27:48 PM »
For tty2, see the multivt bootcode.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2014, 12:36:27 PM »
fltk is a dep of Xprogs, so how are you excluding it?

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2014, 01:19:19 PM »
fltk is a dep of Xprogs, so how are you excluding it?
I also remove Xprogs.
Realy I want to run my own apps at startup, but sometimes I need to shell, a terminal or tty2, I prefer tty2
For tty2, see the multivt bootcode.
I add multivt bootcode, but by pressing Alt+Ctrl+Fn that give me a blank screen and doesn't return to my main screen

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 01:20:41 PM »
DO you need X or just a text base console?
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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 01:43:59 PM »
You can't start X without Xprogs.
Just what are you really trying to do?

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2014, 02:33:38 PM »
DO you need X or just a text base console?
I need to X for normal boot up, but a text base console for tty2
You can't start X without Xprogs.
Just what are you really trying to do?
I install Xorg and also remove xvesa.tcz,
I remove Xprogs fltk and flwm from onboot.lst,
my X app run at startup correctly,
I now need to tty2 for shell with hotkey like Alt+Ctrl+F2
« Last Edit: May 19, 2014, 02:35:10 PM by nano »

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2014, 02:47:41 PM »
OK, so you include Xlibs onboot so you can start X.
Use the multivt boot code to allow you to select virtual consolr on tty2.

Now again, what is the problem?

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2014, 03:03:54 PM »
I add multivt boot code, but
1- when I press Alt+Ctrl+F2 I have only a blank screen with a dot (or dash) at top left side,
2- when I press Alt+Ctrl+F1..12 don't back to my main screen.

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2014, 03:07:57 PM »
1. So login.
2. X is on ALT+CTRL+F7

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2014, 03:29:50 PM »
When I press Alt+Ctrl+F2 a black screen with a dash at top left appears,
And my keyboard doesn't work, I reconnect my usb keyboard but it doesn't work
Finaly I power off system

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2014, 03:33:23 PM »
Is this bare iron or a virtual machine?
How much RAM do you have?
Add "text" boot option and verify that virtual terminals work.
Then run startx and verify again.
Show us your onboot.lst.
You could also try Xvesa instead of Xorg and see if you still experience the problem.

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 03:44:38 PM »
In text mode tty2 was ok.
but when run startx from text mode all things is the same, my keyboard disabled after press Alt+Ctrl+F2

Its on a real system, 1.6 Ghz CPU, 1 GB RAM, and TinyCore installed on a 8 GB usb flash.

I enable Xprogs, fltk and flwm here, but the result is the same when I remove them
« Last Edit: May 19, 2014, 03:46:36 PM by nano »

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Re: How lunch aterm without wbar and flwm?
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2014, 03:59:32 PM »
Next time you are asked for something, put it inline unless specifically asked to post a link.
That onboot.lst totally contradicts everything you have been telling us.

You are loading Xprogs,fltk, and flwm_topside.
You are also loading both Xorg-7.7 and Xorg-7.7-3d.  Don't do that.
Also try not loading  xf86-video-intel.tcz.
You should really get Xvesa working before trying Xorg at all.
You should not be loading all those libs.  Libs will be loaded automatically as dependencies as needed.

I would pare it down to :
Xlibs.tcz
aterm.tcz
Xvesa.tcz

not the current
Xlibs.tcz
Xprogs.tcz
aterm.tcz
fltk-1.1.10.tcz
flwm_topside.tcz
freetype.tcz
imlib2.tcz
libICE.tcz
libSM.tcz
libX11.tcz
libXau.tcz
libXdmcp.tcz
libXext.tcz
libXfont.tcz
libXi.tcz
libXmu.tcz
libXpm.tcz
libXrandr.tcz
libXrender.tcz
libXt.tcz
libfontenc.tcz
libjpeg-turbo.tcz
libxcb.tcz
libXft.tcz
libXinerama.tcz
libXcursor.tcz
liblzma.tcz
libffi.tcz
gdk-pixbuf2.tcz
libtiff.tcz
glib2.tcz
imlib2-bin.tcz
tc-install.tcz
ezremaster.tcz
Xorg-7.7.tcz
xf86-video-intel.tcz
Xorg-7.7-3d.tcz