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why do you leave TinyCoreLinux and where do u go after?
Greg Erskine:
--- Quote from: aneverydayhumanuser on July 20, 2020, 09:29:27 AM ---There is no easy to understand guide to install specific programs that aren't present in the official repo.
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I wouldn't expect compiling a program and making an TC extension to be task for "an everyday human user". It's one of those tasks that if you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it IMHO.
People need to understand *their* requirements and pick a solution that matches.
With so many great options available, isn't it a matter of just moving on the the next one. You can even pay for a turnkey solution and pay for support if that is more suitable. If "time is money" it can work out the right solution for you.
aneverydayhumanuser:
--- Quote from: PDP-8 on July 20, 2020, 03:42:47 PM ---..humanuser...
I can't resist because it's so over the top to think that TC should be productized to your needs, and demand hand-holding. Like they somehow "owe" you something?
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TC doesn't owe me anything and I don't owe anything by using it either.
However, If a software works properly, It should definitely do what It advertise to do (in this case, allowing me to use my computer).
--- Quote from: PDP-8 on July 20, 2020, 03:42:47 PM ---..humanuser...
Perhaps the easiest thing to do is change your outlook and become a nerd. Nothing to be ashamed of. :) Or just seek out something else that meets your needs.
LEARNing something is soooo much more satisfying that just going down a checklist based on the work of others.
.. I mean c'mon man, you asked for it. :) :)
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I may look into this again later, thank you for the links, but right now I don't feel like tinkering around to have something working, when I can use things that work out-of-the-box.
Most people don't have the ability, time or even want to read documentation, just to have an OS working where other OS work out-of-the-box.
But fair point.
--- Quote from: Greg Erskine on July 20, 2020, 07:26:53 PM ---I wouldn't expect compiling a program and making an TC extension to be task for "an everyday human user". It's one of those tasks that if you have to ask, you shouldn't be doing it IMHO.
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Installing apps that aren't present in the official repo is definitely something that most humans need, because the official repo lacks way too many good apps.
hiro:
have you never realised:
software never works (everybody knows that)
the big pathetic error of IT nerds: you help the computer, yet the computer doesn't help you.
PDP-8:
Ok, since you've been around since the DSL days, you should know the ropes about what it's about.
Have you looked into dCore, which instead of relying on dev AND user contributions for programs like TCE, it relies upon Debian / Ubuntu packages, which get downloaded and converted into "SCE"'s? It might be for this very reason that relying on a major distro repository frees up the dev to improve dCore itself, instead of hand-holding users building endless games taking time away from the main project.
So do you want TC to support all the package formats out there, in addition to every appimage, flatpak, snaps etc etc - making TC some sort of universal app-store. Or are you talking debs and rpm conversions only? Or are you willing to compile from source, and turn those into tcz's, which are simply not plug n play unless you hit the command line. Sorry, but 5 year olds need not apply for tcz's.
Have you considered that the devs and user contributed tcz's could be a major security risk, since we are not security experts? How do you know that the Terminus-font.tcz package I submitted is not a rootkit? Something to think about.
Seriously - since you are a dsl user, have you looked into dCore? What about Puppy? Knoppix? Any other system that will already do what you ask?
At times I just don't get the idea from some who want to turn TC into something it is not. Is it an agenda? Or just a simple misunderstanding about what TC is all about, when other systems that do what they want are already at hand?
It's enough to drive a guy to fully appreciate the no-nonsense ethos of OpenBSD (of which I admire too) that don't waste time in forums whatsoever. :)
jazzbiker:
Hi, PDP-8!
Wonderful article on UNIX, thanks a lot! Just like ancient saga, fairy tale!
"UNIX can run on hardware costing as little as 40,000$"
"UNIX occupies 42K bytes"
"The PDP-11 has a 1M fixed-head disk"
Was this written about something produced by our civilization? No, probably this is space invaders epos, dropped accidentally out the UFO window.
Cheers!
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