dCore Import Debian Packages to Mountable SCE extensions > dCore X86
dCore-5.0.alpha1 released
SamK:
[@]Jason W[/b]
Thanks for your detailed response.
--- Quote from: Jason W on July 04, 2013, 08:22:01 AM ---My point is that I am sure most of the updates are not NEEDED for desktop use.
...for the typical desktop user, Linux or otherwise, by far your biggest security risk is related to behavior as in password habits and such.
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A reasonable assessment. Whether or not the security upgrades are needed is not always apparent to a user with limited knowledge. In such a case the safer option is to install them.
--- Quote from: Jason W on July 04, 2013, 08:22:01 AM ---...an option to re-import everything will not be in it's initial conception, I don't want to promote that as a needed behavior.
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The idea was offered as I have an unmeasured feeling that many users of Debian stable simply accept all security upgrades as a matter of course via apt or synaptic. As the upgrades come from the stable repository this can be done without adversely affecting the system, which is not the case if using a non-stable Debian repo. As its is safe, although possibly uneeded behaviour on the part of the user, it would make dCore friendlier and familiar to them.
--- Quote from: Jason W on July 04, 2013, 08:22:01 AM ---...the user can review the below page to see if there is a vulnerability found that may apply to a package that they feel warrants keeping a close eye on updates...
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That assumes the user has sufficient expertise to interpret the information and the ramifications it has on the local system. While this may be fine for experts and enthusiasts, it may be less suitable for users who want to use their system rather than having to learn about the finer point of system management. After all that may be one of the reasons they were drawn towards the stable repo in the first place.
--- Quote from: Jason W on July 04, 2013, 08:22:01 AM ---...I would rather attention be placed on finding bugs in imported packages or the dCore import tools.
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Perfectly understandable. You are of course in the ideal position to judge where the time and effort is best directed to get dCore up and running.
vinnie:
There is a command to browse, find and install from the debian repository list, or you have to search from the site http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages ?
ok, I see the menu when I'm importing the file :)
theYinYeti:
Hi Jason W!
I just gave alpha3 a shot. It’s plain that it’s a work in progress. And yet, I was very impressed with the result!
From memory and a bit of script-exploring, I managed to type the commands to install elinks (import -b elinks; loadsce elinks). From there, I was able to find this topic and follow the directions of the first post: Xprogs+Xtc, then Xsetup.sh.
The only real difficulty I encountered was that X refused to start. That was due to Xorg not having the “s” bit set. I went into savage mode :D In /usr/bin, I removed everything linking to /tmp/tcloop/xorg-all, then copied the files over, and ran “sudo chmod +s *” Then X started (startx).
I found myself on an all-black desktop, found out that there was a mouse-click menu, from which I could open a terminal (Xterm), and thus launch wbar. I did not try everything, but I saw that the import icon failed to do anything (apart from a quick flicker of a terminal window, I think).
All in all, I tried only 2 imports: elinks, and xorg-all (using Xsetup.sh). I was at first a bit worried by all the many warnings, mostly about permission denied to create links. But in the end, elinks worked right from the first attempt! And Xorg too… mostly ;) And XOrg is quite a beast!
Very good job Jason W! Keep up like that!
I won’t be using dcore before probably at least a year: I wouldn’t know where to replicate all the nice customizations I did to my TinyCore (see signature). But I sure will keep an eye on the project :)
[edit: for your information, my sce directory with Xprogs, Xtc, elinks, and xorg-all, was about 115 MB in size]
Jason W:
You need a window manager installed. Some are fluxbox, openbox, icewm, flwm. Or xfce4 and lxde are available as larger desktops, I have even run gnome and kde on dCore.
The error messages you see are from startup scripts. They are almost purely cosmetic and in time they will be cleaned up more.
I have never seen the Xorg issue on any of my machines, but I will look into a "chmod +s" option to avoid this for others.
EDIT: "chmod +s" command added to startup script of xorg
roberts:
If one runs Xsetup.sh, then flwm-topside.sce is downloaded and added to sceboot.lst. However, no matter which window manager one chooses, via import or prebuilt sce, you will need to specify it via the desktop bootcode, e.g., desktop=flwm_topside
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