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Offline Disket

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Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« on: June 15, 2013, 07:59:32 PM »
Hi experts!

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It will difficult to explain my problem without giving command lines !
I've got a  f*ck!ng message saying "Sorry, you are not allowed to post external links. "
WTFIT?!?
So I've deleted all my code quotations !  >:(
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My problem :

I try to read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive.

My release of TC is:

uname -a
Linux box 2.6.33.3-tinycore #2012 SMP Wed May 12 17:05:42

The USB drive is detected under dev sdc:

I fail to use existing fd0H1722 device.

I added a line for fd0H1722 but it doesn't help...

What am i doing wrong ???
Do I have to create a special device with "mknod"  ? How ?

Could you help me please ?

Best regards,

Disket.


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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 09:01:38 PM »
Not sure what to do if you see a need to quote code while being prevented by spam control, perhaps a  moderator could advice...

As you already suspected yourself, you need 1 device node per each floppy format.

A MAKEFLOPPIES script is included in www.tux.org/pub/knaff/fdutils/fdutils-5.5.tar.gz

I wouldn't know if it script still works, as it is slightly dated (2002); also I wouldn't be familiar wrt any particularities of USB floppy drives.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 09:04:03 PM by tinypoodle »
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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2013, 09:47:06 PM »
Upon checking, I found that /dev/fd0H1722 should exist by default in tiny core 2.x & 4.x, so couldn't exclude that your issue *might* be specific to USB.
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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2013, 10:05:33 PM »
Disket

I am not an expert, but you can confirm that if you have an external floppy drive it does support 1770 kB according to your maker's specifications?

As I just did  a quick google and the only hits I was getting was for 1440 kB floppy external drives

and maybe I am stupid but I thought /dev/fd0H1722 was for internal floppy drives?
« Last Edit: June 15, 2013, 10:31:18 PM by aus9 »

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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2013, 10:49:29 PM »
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... maybe I am stupid but I thought /dev/fd0H1722 was for internal floppy drives?
I'm pretty sure  /dev/fd*  applies only to devices connected to the floppy controller.
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... I found that /dev/fd0H1722 should exist by default in tiny core ...
I found that too, but my machines have floppy drives. I don't know if those device nodes get created if a floppy drive
is not attached.

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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 11:06:02 PM »
I don't know if those device nodes get created if a floppy drive
is not attached.

At least in 4.x they are included in the cpio archive ;)
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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2013, 01:17:36 AM »
Hi Disket
Try:
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sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdc /mnt/sdcThen:
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ls -l /mnt/sdcand see whether the directory listing is normal or garbled.

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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2013, 02:42:44 AM »
In case your drive is formatted as msdos or vfat fs, you could try to follow this guide:

http://www.arahne.si/support/faq/127-usb-floppy.html

after first having installed the mtools extension; assigning a "drive letter" to /dev/sdc while setting
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cylinders=82 heads=2 sectors=21
However, also note:
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Please note that reading or writing of floppies on USB floppy drive in nonstandard formats, like Stäubli JC3 or Stäubli JC4 is still not possible. You need a normal floppy drive for this.
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Re: Read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2013, 08:27:48 AM »
I try to read a 1.72MB MS-DOS floppy from USB drive.

The USB drive is detected under dev sdc:

Do I have to create a special device with "mknod"  ? How ?
In my experience, situation: normal.  This isn't a TC-specific issue.  USB floppies are commonly connected as SCSI devices as the USB chips in the drive speak USB mass storage just like a USB flash drive or USB hard drive.  There is no magic device node to create.  You need a real floppy drive on a real floppy controller or a USB floppy drive capable of handling the 1720kiB format (of which I know of none and I doubt such a device exists).
« Last Edit: June 16, 2013, 08:42:42 AM by genec »