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Offline gmc

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[SOLVED] How to install Xorg?
« on: May 21, 2013, 02:51:11 AM »
Greetings,

I have searched the forum, etc., and have not found a clear explanation of how to properly install Xorg.

I started with a clean install of TCL 4.7.7, followed by Xorg 7.6.  On restart my resolution was aat 1920x1080.  This makes it nearly impossible for me to read anything.

How do I install Xorg with a default resolution of 800x600?

What else should I install along with Xorg 7.6 (if anything).

Thanks.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2013, 11:15:57 PM by gmc »

Offline Juanito

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2013, 06:20:47 AM »
If you google the linux man pages for xorg.conf you should get an explanation on how to change the resolution.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2013, 07:47:34 AM »
As a quick hack until you figure out your conf you could always use something along the lines of:
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Xorg & xrandr -s 800x600
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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2013, 09:42:20 AM »
As a quick hack until you figure out your conf you could always use something along the lines of:
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Xorg & xrandr -s 800x600
I can not begin to thank you enough!!!  This is exactly what I needed.  Because of the extremely tiny text I could not see enough to make the configuration changes needed and I could not find this critical "qauick hack" information in and amongst all the details of the manuals I was reading.  Now I can begin to learn how to configure Xorg properly for my needs.

I've said it before but I need to say it again - you, and all the others that have helped me and others are doing a wonderful thing.  This is the best forum I have ever encountered.  You folks are great!

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2013, 09:46:15 AM »
If you google the linux man pages for xorg.conf you should get an explanation on how to change the resolution.
Thanks jaunito.  With the "quick hack" from tinypoodle I can now see enough to apply the information from the google search results.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 01:04:45 AM »
Hi gmc
If you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 you can set the zoom in it. The file should have a section similar to:
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Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     1920 1080
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection
You can try setting  Virtual  to  4096 4096. This might allow you to use a higher resolution for your mode and still have
adequate magnification.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 02:05:22 AM »
Hi gmc
If you have an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 you can set the zoom in it. The file should have a section similar to:
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Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    SubSection     "Display"
        Virtual     1920 1080
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1920x1080" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection
You can try setting  Virtual  to  4096 4096. This might allow you to use a higher resolution for your mode and still have
adequate magnification.
Yes! It works!  Thank you!

Is there a way to list the modes my card/monitor support?

Thanks.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 09:26:02 AM »
Hi gmc
The Xorg.0.log file under /var/log should contain that information. Opening the file and searching for 1920 turned this
up in mine:
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(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "800x600"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480"
The first entry on the Modes line in your xorg.conf will be the resolution xorg defaults to when it starts. When Xorg is running,
you can use  Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+  and  Ctrl-Alt-Numpad-  to switch to the other resolutions listed on that line. When you find
one you like, make it the first entry on the Modes line.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 11:42:33 PM »
Hi gmc
The Xorg.0.log file under /var/log should contain that information. Opening the file and searching for 1920 turned this
up in mine:
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(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1920x1080"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1280x1024"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "1024x768"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "800x600"
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "640x480"
The first entry on the Modes line in your xorg.conf will be the resolution xorg defaults to when it starts. When Xorg is running,
you can use  Ctrl-Alt-Numpad+  and  Ctrl-Alt-Numpad-  to switch to the other resolutions listed on that line. When you find
one you like, make it the first entry on the Modes line.
Great!  I have used this information to set up the modes I want to use (all but one).  I can now cycle between three resolutions - 1024x768, 8900x600 and 640x480.  It is quick and easy to switch between those three.  1024x shows me everything on the screen at once, 800x gives me a better magnification and 640x better still, but requires more mousing around to see the entire screen (sometimes I miss pop-up windows because they are completely hidden).

The only mode listed that I want to use and can't is 320x240x4.  I expect it is because of the 4 bit depth.  No idea how to activate it.  I tried putting it in the xorg.conf file but nothing new happened when I cycled through the different modes, just the three listed above.  And yes, I did restart X!

Anyway, thanks for the added info - it proved most useful.  I would have spent the last years of my life trying to decipher all that log file info and maybe never would have figured that out!

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2013, 01:11:15 AM »
Hi gmc
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... but requires more mousing around to see the entire screen ...
Have you tried changing the  Virtual  line? You might get more acceptable results if you change it to  2048 1536  or
2048 2048.

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Re: How to install Xorg?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2013, 09:55:06 PM »
Hi gmc
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... but requires more mousing around to see the entire screen ...
Have you tried changing the  Virtual  line? You might get more acceptable results if you change it to  2048 1536  or
2048 2048.

Yes, thank you, it does help.  I am using this setup all the time now and it is much better than before. 

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install Xorg?
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2014, 12:27:35 AM »
Greetings,

I have searched the forum, etc., and have not found a clear explanation of how to properly install Xorg.

I started with a clean install of TCL 4.7.7, followed by Xorg 7.6. 

Original question in the subject was not answered...how to properly install xorg after a clean base installation?
I believe it involves exit to prompt, maybe after pre-downloading some extension files, manually removing Xvesa?

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Re: [SOLVED] How to install Xorg?
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2014, 12:53:36 AM »
Assuming you started with tc-5.x

tce-load -iw Xorg-7.7 Xprogs aterm flwm