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Offline Paulo

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Hi all

Using coreplus 4.7.5 and JWM and I notice that using ALT+TAB does not restore open windows which have
been minimised if at least one window is not still showing (has focus).

To replicate this:

- open several windows.
-minimise them all.
-pressing ALT+TAB will highlight each one in turn (at top of screen) but will not restore them.

In order to cycle through the minimised windows using ALT+TAB, restore one window with the mouse
then using ALT+TAB will work as expected.

Is this a bug or a "feature"?

Paulo.




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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 11:42:44 PM »
Doesn't this really belong in TCE bugs?

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 12:18:38 AM »
Hi genec
If someone states that it's working as intended, I'll move it.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 09:06:55 AM »
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If someone states that it's working as intended,

If I open several windows, minimize them all and cycle through them with alt-tab, each window is restored in turn.

Using Core 4.7.5, Xlibs, Xprogs, Xorg-7.5, wbar and jwm.  Windows included in test were minefield7, emelfm2 and filezilla.
32 bit core4.7.7, Xprogs, Xorg-7.6, wbar, jwm  |  - Testing -
PPR, data persistence through filetool.sh          |  32 bit core 8.0 alpha 1
USB Flash drive, one partition, ext2, grub4dos  | Otherwise similar

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 11:41:42 AM »
Hi Lee
Thank you for testing and providing detailed information of the test environment. That sure sounds like it is
working as intended.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 01:40:08 PM »
Hi Lee and thanks for testing, although I can't explain why mine behaves as it does.
I have tried several times and each time it does the same, have even tried different apps and all do the same.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2013, 01:52:16 PM »
Hi Paulo
I don't use jwm but I see it includes:
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usr/share/jwm/tce/.jwmrc
usr/share/jwm/tce/.jwmrc-keys
usr/share/jwm/tce/.jwmrc-theme
usr/share/jwm/tce/.jwmrc-tray
usr/share/jwm/tce/menu_template
which I'm guessing are configuration files. Maybe one of those alters that behavior?
The only other thing I can think of is you are running xvesa and not Xorg, though I don't know if that would have
any effect.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 02:00:07 PM »
Hi Rich
Thanks for the info, I will check them to see what effect they may have.
Perhaps I messed something up whilst configuring the WM, I will put a fresh version of TC
on a USB stick and compare.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2013, 02:12:31 PM »
I have to confess, I have a -bunch- of other stuff loaded - I only listed the extensions that seemed most likely to be relevant....

I just tried the same thing after booting base norestore and loading -only-

Xlibs Xprogs Xvesa wbar jwm emelfm2 minefield7 and filezilla (and their deps)

and I -am- experiencing the problem as described.

Note that I am on a different physical box than earlier, though booting from the same media, and I am having a hard time getting Xorg to run so using Xvesa instead.

I suspect it is the Xvesa vs. Xorg-7.5 difference that is allowing me to see the issue.

I -have- made changes to my .jwmrc* files, which changes would not be present with "base norestore", however I don't remember any  such changes that would be relevant.

More testing as time permits.
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PPR, data persistence through filetool.sh          |  32 bit core 8.0 alpha 1
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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2013, 02:57:37 PM »
Hi Rich
Thanks for the info, I will check them to see what effect they may have.
Perhaps I messed something up whilst configuring the WM, I will put a fresh version of TC
on a USB stick and compare.
No need, you can just boot with code "norestore".
"Software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster." Niklaus Wirth - A Plea for Lean Software (1995)

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2013, 02:59:22 PM »
Aha, thanks tinypoodle, I forgot about "norestore".

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2013, 03:01:25 PM »
Hmmm...

Xorg-7.5 declines to run on this box:

"(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."

Xvesa runs very nicely.
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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2013, 04:23:27 PM »
Hi Lee

I do recall Xorg giving me a hard time on other machines too when trying out different distros.
Can't remember the Xorg versions but recall having weird problems ranging from frozen machines to just black screens.
Switching to Xvesa solved the problems.


Tried "norestore" and a fresh install and in both cases the problem with ALT+TAB persists.

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 09:56:15 PM »
Hi genec
If someone states that it's working as intended, I'll move it.
No harm intended.  My understanding was just that TCB implies core.gz and anything on X would imply TCE.

EDIT: I apologize.  My intention was only to help Paulo.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2013, 10:14:13 PM by genec »

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Re: coreplus 4.7.5 using JWM does not restore windows with ALT+TAB
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 10:14:21 PM »
Hi genec
No harm done. I don't know if it's a bug, or that's just the way it works. Unless someone can definitively show
that this is a bug, it think it belongs under TCE Q&A.
« Last Edit: March 13, 2013, 10:18:08 AM by Rich »