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Request Midnight Commander File Manager
Jason W:
I agree in general that scms should be as full featured as practical. In time I will add the other compression tools. But at the same time, I think we should allow leaving some things optional that are solved by simply installing a tcz to provide extra functionality, similar to how the tczs do. One example would be optionally installing python to provide python support that is not critical for the app, as opposed to including python in the scm when it is not necessary.
SamK:
--- Quote from: AbNoRMiS on June 12, 2012, 07:31:48 AM ---...it would be nice if it were possible to look 7z, rar and zip archives
ie p7zip.tcz, unrar.tcz and zip-unzip.tcz should be also included
however based on my experience is not enough to include zip-unzip.tcz to view zip
need something else which i still have not been able to determine...
--- End quote ---
If I understand you correctly, you would like to look inside each archive file to view the files and directories it contains. This is already possible.
Have a look earlier in the topic at reply #9. I posted the following requests for p7zip, Unrar, and Zip-Unzip in scm format.
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13430.0.html
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13431.0.html
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13431.0.htmlThey have already been added to the repo.
Using these in combination with the "User Menu" facility included within Midnight Commander it is possible to list the contents, check the integrity, and of course extract from and create an archive in the various different formats.
--- Quote from: AbNoRMiS on June 12, 2012, 07:31:48 AM ---...but what do you think about the possibility to view iso, html and man by using mc?
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I have not used mc for viewing these types of files, but can see they might be useful to others.
I did, however take a quick look at html and it seems that mc expects lynx is installed. I also quickly looked at ISO viewing and again mc expects to use isoinfo. I didn't look at viewing man pages.
In general terms I favour full featured scms, and can see the case for the inclusion of such programs where the "parent" scm has such fixed expectations. The archivers I see slightly differently. These tend to be optional rather than fixed, and therefore the case for inclusion is not as strong.
Edit:
I forgot to mention, installing lynx.tcz did enable viewing of an html file via mc.scm. You might consider the value of adding requests for lynx and isoinfo to be produced as scms until they are integrated within mc, or install the tcz version.
Jason W:
I agree with Sam's observation about expected web browsers that apps want to use to view man or web pages. Filezilla, if I recall, uses firefox when you click it's help menu. And it would be ridiculous to include a firefox install within the filezilla.scm extension. Optionally installing firefox is much more sane.
Several apps use firefox to display help pages, and of course it is left as an option to install a firefox extension.
AbNoRMiS:
--- Quote from: SamK on June 12, 2012, 10:10:28 AM ---
--- Quote from: AbNoRMiS on June 12, 2012, 07:31:48 AM ---...it would be nice if it were possible to look 7z, rar and zip archives
ie p7zip.tcz, unrar.tcz and zip-unzip.tcz should be also included
however based on my experience is not enough to include zip-unzip.tcz to view zip
need something else which i still have not been able to determine...
--- End quote ---
If I understand you correctly, you would like to look inside each archive file to view the files and directories it contains. This is already possible.
Have a look earlier in the topic at reply #9. I posted the following requests for p7zip, Unrar, and Zip-Unzip in scm format.
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13430.0.html
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13431.0.html
* http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,13431.0.htmlThey have already been added to the repo.
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yes it is right, i still have installed these tcz extensions
but what meaning to change them to scm analogues?
this is the same as to bargain one trouble for another
yes i agree about the inclusion of web browsers
furthermore in the repo exists links2 that interchangeable with lynx for use in the mc
however think that not entirely correct to compare firefox (or python) with lynx
considering overhead ie its size and its demand for autonomous use
but about archivers and tools such as gawk, grep, groff and isoinfo let me to disagree
maybe enough to create coreutils.scm and cdrtools.scm and subject will be not actual
but you must agree that nobody have objections to inclusion archivers to xarchiver
although if i not mistaken most of them also don't depend strongly and can be used optionally
mc is a same handy tool for extraction from archives or iso-images and using as viewer
and think that i'm not lonely by using it that way
considering their low overall overhead (compared to python etc)
it seems to me that their inclusion has a more sense and a significant advantage
over the creating and installing of these small modules separately
of course i may be wrong about this matter
but i will try different options
Jason W:
I will consider including those non web browser apps like groff, isoinfo, and such into mc.scm, since not needing dependencies is part of the concept.
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