Xorg 7.6 Breaks Keyboard and Mouse

[rhodius]

Hello all. When I install Xorg 7.6.tcz to my still very minimal TCB 4.2, the screen goes black and will take no input from the mouse or keyboard. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is no good to kill X and go to prompt at this point, which leaves me with no option but to unplug my box, reboot and try again. When the machine is rebooted, it comes up with the usuable-but-unsatisfactory Xvesa, at least.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

[Rich]

Hi rhodius
Try this:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12369.msg66769.html#msg66769

[rhodius]

Hi rhodius
Try this:
http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php/topic,12369.msg66769.html#msg66769

Thanks, Rich, but no Xorg with that method either. This may be one of those agp Intel-whatever problems. Looks like all that stuff is installed, though. At least it doesn't cripple Xvesa or the input devices by being there.  And fortunately, Chromium browser doesn't turn all weird-looking like FireFox does with Xvesa, so this pretty usable at this point, but my vision challenges need much better resolution and contrast than this shaded look and resolution with out-of-the-box TCB on my hardware.

Slowly but surely I'm putting TC together 

I was searching  the forum and ran across a reference to using 915resolution for intel 815 chips? Does that sound reasonable?

[Rich]

Hi rhodius
Actually, I was only referring to this one post:

Installing an X server while another is running can cause issues. From X:

- "Download only" Xorg-7.6
- Mark it onboot in appsaudit
- Reboot

Since installing Xorg may conflict with a running instance of Xvesa, you should change  OnBoot  to
Download Only  in  AppBrowser.
Install  pci-utils.tcz  and run  lspci  to find out what kind of graphics chip you are running.

[rhodius]

Hi rhodius
Actually, I was only referring to this one post:

Installing an X server while another is running can cause issues. From X:

- "Download only" Xorg-7.6
- Mark it onboot in appsaudit
- Reboot

Since installing Xorg may conflict with a running instance of Xvesa, you should change  OnBoot  to
Download Only  in  AppBrowser.
Install  pci-utils.tcz  and run  lspci  to find out what kind of graphics chip you are running.

Sorry, Rich, but I didn't make myself clear; I did follow those instructions, but still got no Xorg on boot as described.

And thanks, I'll see what pci-utils reports.

[rhodius]

Rich,
lspci says VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics                                                                                        Controller (rev 02).

[Rich]

Hi rhodius
Have you tried this:
Hit control-alt-backspace
sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf
startx

[rhodius]

Hi rhodius
Have you tried this:
Hit control-alt-backspace
sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf
startx

Neither of those files exist. There is no X11 directory.

[rhodius]

Hi rhodius
Have you tried this:
Hit control-alt-backspace
sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Rich, below is the result of the suggested command:
                   
tc@box:~$ cp: can't stat '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.vesa': No such file or directory

Thanks.
 

[gerald_clark]

That would be in one of the older Xorgs.
Perhaps you should try one of them.

[curaga]

The vesa example is still in 7.6. Not having the dir means you don't have Xorg (any version) loaded.

[rhodius]

Thanks for trying to penetrate my ignorance, guys Seems that TC is beyond my Linux skills, but I haven't given up: I circumvented the X problem altogether by trying TC on another box - one that doesn't use integrated Intel chipset.

The desktop looks great with no tweaking on this different machine, so I'm going to get a feel for TC before tackling Xorg on anything else. I'm online now with pppd and Chromium browser, so I can more easily study the wiki and forums while using TC. I installed MC and nano so I can move around the system and make changes in a way that is more familiar. Persistence is a bit of a mystery in some respects, but now I'm better able to explore TC and learn its ways.

Thanks again all the help!

[Triophile]

You definitely shouldn't give up, rhodius :-)

My ignorance is greater than yours, but eventually I managed to get Xorg 7.6 working perfectly on a Socket 939 mobo with ATI IGP, and considering the crustiness of the hardware (and how it would perform with XP, let alone Vista or 7), it goes like the clappers.

I'm going to have another crack at my HP T5720 thin client tomorrow, adapting the xorg.conf I used for the 939 mobo. If it works, I should have my new daily-use PC, trundling along on a huge 25 watts flat out in complete silence.

Good luck, Jon.

[floppy]

Could you please post th dmesg.txt file created with (in a terminal) dmeag > dmesg.txt  ?
And your onboot.lst file? (whatever you try to boot: Xvesa or Xorg).

[rhodius]

You definitely shouldn't give up, rhodius :-)

Wow, thanks for the encouragement, Jon! I've been lurking and learning here and was very surprised I to see this thread surface again.

No, I'm not giving up at all. I'm quite taken with Tiny Core and am using it everyday now. I'll try it again soon on the unco-operative hardware, but right now it's working very nicely on this older machine. I've solved my major problem with persistence (it was a misunderstanding of the wiki on my part) and have a routine for working around the loss of certain configurations. I'll eventually get to the bottom of that problem, too.

So, thanks again for your interest and encouraging words.