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Offline ickla10

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Just Beginning (urgent)
« on: April 21, 2009, 04:07:04 PM »
Hiya :). I'm new to the whole portable operating system/ linux. I tried others like ubuntu or damn small linux, but i didnt like those because ubuntu was too slow on my pc and dsl was confusing. I finally found this. Its just what i needed. Minimal and small. So i need help with the following things  ???.

1) I need help on making tiny core persistent. I looked at other documatation but i didnt get it. perhaps using the backup/restore panel?

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2) Is it possible to use apps that are not in the repository? Like apps for other linux operating systems?

Thanks for the help! I could really use it! ;D

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2009, 05:10:42 AM »
1) I need help on making tiny core persistent.
maybe try a PPR installation as explained in the concepts ( http://tinycorelinux.com/concepts.html )

I tried the PPI installation first because it seems more "classic" to me but I had problems with the wifi modules extension which didn't seem to be PPI compatible ...

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2009, 08:42:38 AM »
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2) Is it possible to use apps that are not in the repository? Like apps for other linux operating systems?
It's possible, but all apps will work.  It will depend on what development environment was used to compile the application, and what other libraries (possibly not available in TC) the application relies on.  Probably the most common problem you'll run into is with the C library.  Many  popular distros are now using 2.4, where TC currently has 2.3.  You can use apps built with glibc 2.3 in a distro with 2.4, but not the other way around.

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2009, 11:38:42 AM »
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2) Is it possible to use apps that are not in the repository? Like apps for other linux operating systems?
It's possible, but all apps will work.  It will depend on what development environment was used to compile the application, and what other libraries (possibly not available in TC) the application relies on.  Probably the most common problem you'll run into is with the C library.  Many  popular distros are now using 2.4, where TC currently has 2.3.  You can use apps built with glibc 2.3 in a distro with 2.4, but not the other way around.

Looks like an upgrade is underway.....

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 04:04:56 PM »
Thanks all. I was trying the instructions on the concepts page but i didn't really understand it  :o. Like people say stuff about how you can use cheat codes but when i boot up it doesn't show a line where i can type in the cheat codes. so i was thinking about putting it in the bootlocal.sh file but i wasn't sure if it would work. And im really confused on the filesystems because im running tiny core from my usb but I don't know which one is my usb to save the persistent stuff to.

Thanks! ;D

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 09:51:32 AM »
bootlocal.sh is much later. the bootcodes are when you first start tc and it says: boot:

you can just hit enter but you can also type: tinycore bootcodes bootcodes bootcodes (where "bootcodes" are options) as for what device to use, it's usually /dev/sda1 but people will tell you how to find out otherwise.

Offline ickla10

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 05:41:35 PM »
O! i know why it didnt show to boot option. because i installed it to my usb via unetbootin. so all i have to do is change the syslinux.cfg file to add boot options.
   
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Can anyone reccomend a partioning app for windows to use for persistence?

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »
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Can anyone reccomend a partioning app for windows to use for persistence?
I've heard this thing called Linux is pretty good ;)
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

Offline pierro78

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 11:26:36 AM »
Can anyone reccomend a partioning app for windows to use for persistence?

you want to repartition your hard drive under windows ?
you can use the free version of easus ( http://www.partition-tool.com/personal.htm )

Offline ickla10

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 01:39:21 PM »
Lol. funny.  ;D. I tried many partitioning apps but none of them worked, including easus. I think I will install tiny core to a empty useless partition already on my hard drive then save settings and files to my usb? I don't know.

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 02:18:28 PM »
Actually I was half-serious - cfdisk is quite easy to use, and we also have gparted for those who like a Partition Magic-like experience better. Bare TC has fdisk, but using one of the extensions is easier.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

Offline ickla10

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 03:16:44 PM »
Ok. so cfdisk is a extension? would i be able to partition the usb that tinycore is on while using tinycore?

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2009, 04:54:02 PM »
Yes :)

Since TC loads to ram, as long as the drive is not mounted, you can edit the partitions any way you like. Another way would be to boot TC some other way, for example from cd.
The only barriers that can stop you are the ones you create yourself.

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 05:35:32 PM »
Thanks. I'm was trying to mount my Transcend flash drive but i just read that lots of people have been having that issue so i'm just looking for any spare usb's to use instead  :D.

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Re: Just Beginning (urgent)
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2009, 09:56:30 PM »
I think I will install tiny core to a empty useless partition already on my hard drive then save settings and files to my usb? I don't know.

a frugal install (often recommended) doesn't require its own partition. there are a variety of ways you can handle persistence, and usb is one of these.