Tiny Core Base > Release Candidate Testing
Core v4.2rc3
newbody:
Thanks Markus, I've read now your struggles with RC1
so I have much more to read before I get what one are supposed to do.
You give a good advice but I already have TCL 4.0 going on NTFS
on my Acer D250 Netbook so wanted to test the newest thing.
But I found this very important text by or from RobertS
--- Quote ---...NTFS support is deprecated starting with 4.2
core.gz is not able to mount cde on NTFS to continue loading.
However. the cde directory should only reside on iso and not be copied to any hard drive.
Adding the X/GUI extensions to where your normal TCE directory resides will solve your issue,
and is the expected location. This way individual updates to the X/GUI will occur as for any regular extension.
--- End quote ---
I fail to get this part
"Adding the X/GUI extensions to where your normal TCE directory resides will solve your issue, "
So typical of me I get the first part. NTFS support is deprecated starting with 4.2
The word deprecated? hm have to look up.
1. to express earnest disapproval of.
2. to urge reasons against; protest against (a scheme, purpose, etc.).
3. to depreciate; belittle.
So does that mean that it is impossible or just looked down upon?
That one are on ones own. One should not ask in forum about it
or does it mean that it is impossible?
I would love that somebody who know how to do tell how I get core
with a desktop going even on NTFS.
Your "(go for a) stable TC 4.1 to play with and learn TC. Next go for NTFS"
To learn TC is impossible for me I am not on that level. I just want to use it.
But what you write here "Next go for NTFS " seems to contradict what RobertS told us.
That it can not boot on NTFS "NTFS support is deprecated starting with 4.2"
But deprecated maybe means discouraged but do work if one really want to?
so if you did get it going on frugal install on NTFS then I would love to know the
menu.lst code
bigpcman:
--- Quote from: bmarkus on December 23, 2011, 04:20:20 AM ---Finally I got it up and running from USB stick after many trials and discussing with Robert. The key point is, that you can't use the same partition for tce directory and cde. With other words it means, that single FAT partitioned setup is not supported, you need a second LINUX partition for tce. tce= boot option to this partition will create tce and its sub directories and will be found automatically at next boot.
There is one bug still, onboot.lst is not created automatically. If you create an empty onboot.lst in /tce with
sudo chmod 755 onboot.lst
sudo chown tc.staff onboot.lst
It appears to work as expected (aka as TC 4.1)
--- End quote ---
Very interesting outcome. Thanks for tracking this down. I wonder why the system must operate this way?
newbody:
Good that you remind me of that change.
So from version TCL 4.2 one need two partitions?
Even if using frugal install? Why was that needed.
I got so happy when RobertS included frugal install on NTFS
and a single partition too because I felt a renewed hope for
many Linux distros being usuable for us noobs. So 4.1 is
the latest usable for us then? Will the repo include tcz files
for 4.1 then?
floppy:
--- Quote from: newbody on December 23, 2011, 08:24:12 AM ---So if I get it at all which I am not sure of?
--- Quote ---From the announcement post:
Quote
...
TinyCore is simply the kernel + core.gz + Xvesa.tcz|Xorg.tcz + (user's choice of Window Manager) + (optionally wbar.tcz)
Obviously tcz extensions are located in the tce directory.
--- End quote ---
So should I download these then and put them in the core directory?
Xvesa.tcz
Xorg.tcz
Xprogs (is that Xprogs.tcz ?)
Window Manager (okay I chose one? When does one do that?)
wbar.tcz
And Xprogs and Window Manager I can chose among those at the download list?
So would them get included automatically or does one call them from the prompt or what?
--- End quote ---
Put the files in the extension directory of your pc:
Xvesa.tcz OR Xorg7.4.tcz OR Xorg7.6.tcz
Xlibs.tcz
flwm-topside.tcz (one windows manager.. or fluxbox.tcz?)
Xprogs.tcz (or not.. in any case only from the testing 4.2rc3 directory)
wbar.tcz (or not)
fltk..tcz (see the file in the 4.2rc3 directory)
I would put these files names in an _42rc3.lst in the tce directory and boot with the code lst=_42rc3.lst
For the reason I never used ntfs and dont know this frugal environment, Im not sure where to put these all extensions files (create a /mnt/sdax/tc_ext/ and ../optional/ where the ..lst is in the tc_ext and all extensions are in the ../optional/ ? just a guess).
newbody:
Thanks floppy, I am booted in TCL 4.1 Stable now and it accepted the files
from 4.0 so that was a good thing indeed.
Thanks for the description. I have to read it again and again because
I am not so good structured things. Very good advices and much appreciated
you took time to help me out.
Now all depends on two things. What the word "deprecated" really means.
Does it means impossible even with nfs-3g.tcz or just discouraged to avoid
that people ask about it on the forum. Does it mean that it works very well but
that RobertS and the team don't want questions about it on the forum so that one
are on ones own and get no help but that it do work as good as in 4.1 which
my post show due to I am able to write this.
Or is core so changed that it is totally impossible to boot? What would be needed
then to get it to boot apart from formatting a partition or using USB? For how long will
TCL 4.1 be supported with repo?
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