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Offline Punchy71

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Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« on: August 17, 2012, 12:01:50 PM »
Hi all,
 Newbie question here. Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on: stable, unstable, testing or experimental?

Thank you

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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2012, 12:14:21 PM »
Hi Punchy71
I don't think Tinycore is based on Debian, at any rate, the kernel is based on a stable release, currently 3.0.21.

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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2012, 05:33:23 PM »
Core is not based on Debian. It is primarily en embedded design based on busybox.
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2012, 06:01:54 PM »
"based on busybox"? or does it just borrow some concepts from BusyBox and is based on nothing and is truly and independent distro?

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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2012, 06:14:53 PM »
Hi Punchy71
Take a look in the  /bin  directory, you will find it populated with commands that are links to busybox.

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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2012, 02:51:04 AM »
Yes, there is no "upstream distro" for Core.
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2012, 03:53:56 AM »
my understanding so that at initial stage were used developments that roberts did for damn small linux
since dsl has positioned itself as based on debian sometimes mistakenly believe that tinycore also debian based
but now tinycore went by its own way much further and have remained nothing common with these distributions
i correctly understand tinycore's way?
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2012, 04:38:59 AM »
Yes, there is a little of DSL here (in some scripts), but none of Debian.
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2012, 01:37:49 PM »
"based on busybox"? or does it just borrow some concepts from BusyBox and is based on nothing and is truly and independent distro?

"based on busybox" would be in analogy of Debian being based on GNU, when it comes to basic userland tools.
That has nothing to do with being independent - and Core is more of a toolkit rather than a distro either way.
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 01:26:53 AM »
Linux have couple of main brands, at least Debian, Redhat and Slackware families.

Distro success depend mainly for development group "quality". Redhat and Debian used to be "best dev groups" distroes, but later Redhat was sold for some company. Slackware is one of the most solids, almoust the oldest and most unixlike, but is mentally limited for that "automatic package dependency maintenance is wrong" -thing. All these main distro families are polluted by gigantism.

Of course, others problems with all unix brands (=unixdisease) are ISO-layer model and sick unix filestructure idealism. And the crown of all mess is that unix non-realtime-no-exeptionhandling stuff, whick ruins it at least something still survive.

There are few interesting experiments to fix unixdisease, bogolinux for example. Bogo is "too radical", you have to live with those myriads lines of histrically written unix code.

TinyCore is brilliant trade off with dirty unix history and healthy code. All code is minimalized, and sick unix filestructure is "isolated" by TC format. For orninary user TC's the biggest advantage is "application evolution", there is vast selection of linux tools (and most of them are bad) but all "TC staff apps" are light, fast, simple and pro.

Unfortynatelly TC is still under development, but becouse main development priciples are VERE healthy, TC will be ready on some day at near future.

Edit: Gobolinux, not bogo (bogogobogo-whatever-anyway)
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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 05:50:28 AM »
later Redhat was sold for some company.

For some company? Do you mean

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Re: Which branch of Debian is Tiny Core based on?
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 10:36:02 AM »
Linux have couple of main brands, at least Debian, Redhat and Slackware families.

Distro success depend mainly for development group "quality". Redhat and Debian used to be "best dev groups" distroes, but later Redhat was sold for some company. Slackware is one of the most solids, almoust the oldest and most unixlike, but is mentally limited for that "automatic package dependency maintenance is wrong" -thing. All these main distro families are polluted by gigantism.

Of course, others problems with all unix brands (=unixdisease) are ISO-layer model and sick unix filestructure idealism. And the crown of all mess is that unix non-realtime-no-exeptionhandling stuff, whick ruins it at least something still survive.

There are few interesting experiments to fix unixdisease, bogolinux for example. Bogo is "too radical", you have to live with those myriads lines of histrically written unix code.

TinyCore is brilliant trade off with dirty unix history and healthy code. All code is minimalized, and sick unix filestructure is "isolated" by TC format. For orninary user TC's the biggest advantage is "application evolution", there is vast selection of linux tools (and most of them are bad) but all "TC staff apps" are light, fast, simple and pro.

Unfortynatelly TC is still under development, but becouse main development priciples are VERE healthy, TC will be ready on some day at near future.

Edit: Gobolinux, not bogo (bogogobogo-whatever-anyway)
wow! something from above could be added into Welcome or Intro or Core Concepts page of tinycore website :)
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