Tiny Core Linux
General TC => Tiny Core Netbooks => Topic started by: Pseudoman on May 31, 2011, 05:53:22 PM
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I'm planning to purchase a netbook, set it up with Tinycore and do some light computing: mostly word-processing for school, but more than that would be a plus. Games are fun... All for under $300, $250 being my target price.
Some I have seen:
* Toshiba Mini NB505
* HP Mini 110
* Asus EEEPC 1015PE
Really, I would like to know which is most compatible with GNU/Linux and if it can do some light emulation stuff (DOSBox, Stella, etc.).
Any info would be appreciated, thanks.
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Really, I would like to know which is most compatible with GNU/Linux
Are you aware that TC is not at all GNU/Linux?
(Of course it could more or less become GNU/Linux by adding extensions.)
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I bought my wife the ASUS Eee PC 1001PX-EU27-WT, and we both love it. She mainly uses the native Windows 7, but I set it up to dual boot several Linux operating systems--principally TC 3.5. It runs very nicely.
Here is a link to Amazon's page on this nifty little netbook:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&tag=mozilla-20&index=blended&link_code=qs&field-keywords=ASUS%20Eee%20PC%201001PX-EU27-WT&sourceid=Mozilla-search
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Really, I would like to know which is most compatible with GNU/Linux
Are you aware that TC is not at all GNU/Linux?
(Of course it could more or less become GNU/Linux by adding extensions.)
Yeah, I know that it doesn't have all of the GNU tools, I guess that I should have been more specific ;). What I meant was hardware compatibility with the Linux kernel modules and what not.
Anyhow, I'm considering that Toshiba Mini, any thoughts anybody?
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You could install Tinycore on a usb drive, and if they don't mind at the shop, boot it from the usb drive, to see if it just boots with no special setup required.
Anything you learn, share here so others can benefit.
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I would recommend a Brazos (E-350) one. Beats Atom in both cpu and gpu for the same price.
It should work fine on current TC, not counting Xorg. Accelerated graphics w/ Xorg would need to wait for TC 4.x.
edit: Talking open drivers of course. Latest Catalyst would work fine on current Xorg.
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I would recommend a Brazos (E-350) one. Beats Atom in both cpu and gpu for the same price.
I second that. The AMD E-350 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+E-350) is more than double the speed of the Intel Atom N455 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+N455+%40+1.66GHz) and about the same speed as the Intel Atom D525 (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Atom+D525+%40+1.80GHz).
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Really, I would like to know which is most compatible with GNU/Linux
Are you aware that TC is not at all GNU/Linux?
(Of course it could more or less become GNU/Linux by adding extensions.)
Yeah, I know that it doesn't have all of the GNU tools, I guess that I should have been more specific ;).
Actually last time I checked, I found exactly one GNU executable ('locale'). A developer might possibly confirm or correct that.
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> Are you aware that TC is not at all GNU/Linux?
Does that mean it does NOT run `mc` : Midnight Commander ?
Previously I installed something, which 'started' with <busybox>;
and I had to write my own 'skelaton-mc' in `ash`.
I can't tolerate groping around the file-tree, using `ls` & `cd` !!
Could I load the apps to my 'HP Mini 110' via it's 8GB CF?
Cloud usage is not possible for me.
An Oberon [V4] user refered me to this TC, for possible use to
run Oberon-V4; which I currently do under GNU/linux [although I
prefer ETH-Oberon S3]. I'm wondering if TC can run any Oberon,
if TC is not GNU/linux ?
BTW I much prefer the Oberon TEXT based method, rather than the
US tendency to use cartoons.
Thanks for any answers.
== Chris Glur.
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There are many GNU addons.
Midnight Commander is one of them.
Use AppBrowser to view what is available.
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hello
uh with the laptop chips do you mean that the AMD chip is double the speed
of the lower Intel because it's simply a dual core?
my understanding is that multiple cores are only used when the apps being
used are multi-thread apps.
how many linux apps are multi thread?.....i know some that are multi thread but what the percenage
is i am not sure. (it's low i think....maybe less than 5 percent of apps are multi thread) . Povray is multi-thread and Ardour music tool.
Otherwise, my understanding is that a dual core chip will allow the OS to perform
better because the OS is multi-thread. Dual core will also deal better with having several "single thread" apps open at the same time. Say you had some "single thread" app in the background
doing processing of an audio file (Audacity), while in the foreground you had some other "single thread"
app like FireFox working. (the dual core chip would give "some" improvement over a single
core chip in that scenario)
Dual core chips are more common now and i am not sure how much more expensive they
are than a single core chip.
As for doing virtual computer work, i was told that the AMD chip is capable of hardware
virtualisation where-as some intel chips are not capable of this and would be slow at the
task.
I notice that quad core laptops are not ridiculous in price. About $399, although i would need
to check that.
I hope this helps out in some way.
V.
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There seems to be a lack of netbook/laptop hardware about at the moment, what would you guys recommend as the go-to netbook/ultrabook/small laptop these days?
(I realise that this is reviving a very old thread indeed - apologies)
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I would still recommend AMD, just the updated model (E-450). Though within some weeks there's going to be a refresh (clock increase) with those chips (Brazos 2.0), so waiting might get you a price drop on the E-450 or a newer chip.
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spence
ye....spence....these comments about Brazos seem about right...
You have your budget also. Fits into it.
V.
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The Brazos platform does seem quite good. Has anyone got any experience with Brazos under Linux/tinycore?
The ultrathin segment is still too pricey, but hopefully that will change in time.
Aside from that, the only thing that has turned my head is the Asus transformer Prime - A seriously good looking piece of hardware but I just don't think that I'd be able to use Android as a sole replacement for what can be done on an X86 laptop at the moment...
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Yes, I have a E-350 laptop running TC4. Can't recall quite what version exactly. IIRC everything worked that I tried, except the atl1c ethernet driver being buggy (hanging the machine if a cable was not connected; "blacklist=atl1c" at boot to not load it. I used mostly wifi on it.)
What would you like to know?
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Hello
Spence, i see you mentioned Android in your earlier comments and i am glad
because i didn't really want to mention it on a tinycore forum. (too much)
i am very careful with money i try to search out the best
bang for your buck (so to speak) and you mentioned you had 250 or 300 $ to
spare. I have discovered that these new android TV boxes at just 69
dollars are a great value computer.
It's an Android computer, so you can run VNC and other telnet
services because those apps are free in the android marketplace.
Those apps will allow you to dial into a free Linux cloud computer from say amazon. This gives you a free x86 computer which you can install tools into. You will be able to run Tinycore in some emulator or virtual box on that cloud computer.
My point is that these TV boxes are very reasonable devices and low price.
They come with an ARM cortex a9 chip at 1ghz and dual gpu video cores. Many come witha Mali 400 3D gpu core and that is pretty good.
The Android is usually 2.3 which is fine. The marketplace works and you plug
in your keyboard and mouse. I'ts a pretty nice desktop computer for low price. They are
also amazing internet TV box's.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zpwebsites.completelinuxinstaller&feature=related_apps#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEwOSwiY29tLnpwd2Vic2l0ZXMuY29tcGxldGVsaW51eGluc3RhbGxlciJd
you can install Linux right into that box giving you a nice dual boot computer.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/android-full-hd-1080p-media-player-w-usb-sd-hdmi-rj45-ports-black-2-x-aaa-102992?item=54
these are lovely silent, tiny, fanless computers with a good price.
As for getting SOUND into the box...i have not heard anybody get USB microphones working
yet. It us just a question of telling Android it has a microphone because these boxes were
built without Microphones. USB micrphones should eventually work...like other USB stuff can already work (pens).
These boxes are also amazing internet TV boxes in their own right. Better
than say Apple TV.
Ofcourse, if you need a laptop for the screen, then these boxes are not much
use to you....although these boxes are portable and will plug into any large screen anyplace.
thanks
V.
ps. This tool may also work under wine on any Linux cloud computer, thus allowing you to easily
use Tinycore.
http://mobalivecd.mobatek.net/en/
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I can NOT recommend a samsung NC10 Plus.
I would next time look for a netbook booting from the SD port (when it has one like my samsung NC10 plus).
This is a kind of a pity samsung was not improving its BIOS (I asked for it at samsung germany) for making this SD boot possible with a BIOS setup.
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I've been quite excited about the Trinity APU gear that's meant to be coming out soon... The only trouble is that I can't actually find anything that has it!
I'm in the UK, has there been any Trinity releases elsewhere?
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I recall several laptops already out in Germany and Poland.
For example see:
http://geizhals.at/eu/763691
That's a HP laptop with the top-end trinity (a10-4600m), 6 gb ram, 500gb hd, 555 eur. On the downside, it has a discrete card too, and it comes with Windows.
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Found one in the wild!
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B008KGXMF6/
Decent enough - bit pricey but nothing on an ultrabook
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Yikes, the thin costs. In Blighty, a few mm more = 100 gbp less ;)
http://www.systo.co.uk/uncategorised/355v5c-amd-a6-4400m-np355v5c-a05uk.html
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This is an old thread
Psonuomnman......i am really wanting a new Notebook....but i simply can't believe
the excruciating high price of notebook computers.....literally in the UK now...
And the way they are ramming down your nose on TV adverrts......about 400 pounds
this is....basically best part of 700 dollars?........for a CHIP in some plastic with a screen?
This is indeed WHY the whole of london city areas are filled with electronics
store.s...because of teh INSANE profts from it....everybody wants a foot in the pool.
These underpowered piddly little netbooks....they have been spread like a desease
over the home computing market for like 5 years now....
only to FIND OUT that they have even "increased in price?.."......even when it's 5 year old technology....
Now to give you some idea....a CELL PHONE is jammed to capacity with technology and contains may CPUS's in most cases.....and extremeyl expensive TRANSCEIVERS and also other design elements that make a CELL PHONE a very advanced device
yet a new cell phone is 6 dollars?...........now ask yourself.....where is the 700 dollars for a notebook coming from?......what the hell is going on? (those are the UK prices now.......3 pounds for a cell phone......400 for a laptop.....?
the answer is this.....it's robbery.....the electronics manufactures all LEVEL the playing field with prices.....and that is what EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY......shut up.
sure there are Pi's computers.....and they really are Special because they proove the
point i have made above....it's not needed to charge the earth for laptops
the irony is they are often "thrown away' pretty quik.....such a waste .....ridiculous indeed...
i will leave you thinking.....
i am moaning really....because i just can't have a nice new notebook....but i still stand by what's above
Vince.