Tiny Core Linux
Tiny Core Base => TCB Talk => Topic started by: linux new guy on April 01, 2011, 04:58:49 AM
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title tinycore
kernel /boot/bzImage quiet
initrd /boot/tinycore.gz
This is my menu.list can you tell me whats wrong?
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redownload them and use checksums to make sure data integrity is ok
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Lost me on that one. I haven't a clue how to do that.
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how do you use checksums?
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$ md5sum -c OSS.tcz.md5.txt
OSS.tcz: OK
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Keep in mind I'm brand new to this so I'll be asking some very stupid questions. I noticed something that doesn't seem right. In the instructions I noticed that grub-0.97-splash.tcz has an install option when selected. I didn't have that option I just clicked on go (like I did with cfdisk.tcz). I looked at it again and there's instructions in the comments about installing it to the hard drive. Maybe I need to follow those instructions?
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you only have to install grub once, when you want to write the bootloader to your disk (which should finally start your pc). that's when you install tc. it doesn't matter if you install it afterwards as an extension or not. like Arslan mentioned it is quite possible your archives are corrupted. when you download bzImage and tinycore.gz with a browser they are often broken because the browser tries to unpack them on the fly.
redownloading bzImage and tinycore.gz directly within the system (the same where you call grub) might help:
wget http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/3.x/release/distribution_files/tinycore.gz
wget http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/3.x/release/distribution_files/bzImage
however, no one can imagine what you've done before failing with grub... so please be more precise in your steps. usb install? cd rom install? network yes/no? device which contains the bootloader?
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Sorry for my lack of detail. I downloaded tinycore-current.iso from this site
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/3.x/release/
Then I burned an image of that on a CD. This is on a different computer than the one I'm installing on.
Then I booted the CD on the computer I'm installing to. Followed the instructions on this page
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/install.html
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OK.... I'm not going to take offense if you treat like a complete idiot here (I'm trying to learn) but you have to get down to a very basic level. I know the computer I'm trying to install this on will get on the internet because I've had win2k installed and that worked plus I've used other linux live CDs and got on the internet. I don't know how you use this internet tool thats in this package. When I type that address into this computer it asks me if I want to download the file. When I type it into the top box of the tinycore tool and hit connect I see a bunch of files in the box to the left. But I can type google in there and get the same thing. How do I use this thing? The "go" box is always grayed out to.
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Hi linux new guy
That sounds like you are using the AppsBrowser, it's used to install applications (web browser, spreadsheet, etc.).
If you want to adjust your network settings click on the icon with the screwdriver on it and select Network.
Your network connection is working by the way, that's why AppBrowser showed you a list of files when you hit
connect. If you select one of them then the Go button will no longer be grayed out.
[EDIT]: Hitting Go will install the selected application.
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Problem is I think I'm looking at the same files I was looking at before. The web address on the top doesnt change and I dont think anything downloaded.
I booted up the live linuxpuppy CD and I was able to download the files. Trouble is I think they just went into RAM because I didnt see any activity on my hard drive. How would I get it out of RAM onto my hardrive? I'll go back to tinycore again and ,ake another attempt at that.
This probably all seems ridiculous to you guys that know what your doing but unfortunately I'm not one of them. This file/drive system is like trying to speak another language to me.
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I have no idea what you are saying.
You have not clearly stated what you are doing, and what you believe has failed.
What exactly are you trying to downolad?
Since you booted the CD, you already have bzImage and tinycore.gz.
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I'm trying to install tinycorelinux and get it to boot from the hardrive.
There are 2 computers the one I'm using right now that has XP (I'll call that computer 1) and another one I'm trying to install tinycorelinux on to the hardrive (computer 2). I downloaded the tinycore-current.iso on the computer I'm on (computer 1) and burned the CD image. Then I attempted the install on to computer 2 and booted the CD. Then I followed the instructions given here http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/install.html (that I got off of computer 1) Then after going threw the whole installation process on computer 2 I got error:19 kernel must loaded before initrd. Then I came here (on computer 1) and posted my menu.lst because I thought thats where the problem was. I was told to redownload the tinycore.gz and the bzImage. Thats where I'm stuck. I wanted to verify that computer 2 was connecting to the internet so I booted the live puppylinux CD to make sure I could get on the internet with computer 2. While I was on there (on computer 2) I tried to download those files. They appeared to download but I have no idea where they went (I could only figure they downloaded to RAM) there wasn't any drive activity. Now I could download those files onto computer 1 and burn another CD but I'm out of CDs (that's a story for another day) besides I wanted to be able to do it from the tinylinux app. Is this a little more clear?
You should here about all the other crap I went threw before I got here.
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I'm getting very discouraged with all this to be honest. I tried installing 5 other distros to later find out most of my problem was with my CD drive (I swapped out the CD drive so that's not an issue anymore). It played CDs and had no problem installing win 2k though. Thats a subject for another day.
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The two files are in the boot directory on the CD. You do not need to download them.
The installation instructions has many steps.
DId you follow them exactly?
Did you get any errors?
At this step:
cp -p /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
you might try substituting
cp -p /tmp/tcloop/grub-0.97-splash/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/* /mnt/hda1/boot/grub/
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I believe I followed it to the tee. The only thing I noticed is in the instructions it has an install option shown for grub. I didn't have that I just clicked on go.
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Maybe I'll write all 0s to the drive and start all over. I'm trying to figure out what all this stuff is doing anyway.
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That may be a good idea.
It is never wrong to take advantage of a learning experience.
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I couldn't agree more. The thing is I've been farting around with this everyday all week and still dont have a linux OS that boots from my hardrive. I just started on tinycore yesterday though.
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Why don't you try the HD/USB install in the ControlPanel ?
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I don't have any USB device to install with.
I managed to get puppy linux to boot from the hardrive (in fact I'm posting from that computer). I don't know whats going on with this swap file thing though. I thought I was suppose to have a swap partition on the hardrive. I get an error when I try to make one. I dont recall what it was though. I thought I remember something about mounting.
I was hoping for a little faster boot time and a little more increase in speed than win 2K. Ah well at least it works.
I still want to get tinycore working. I think I'll take a break for a day or 2.
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It installs on USB or HD, not from.
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I installed it from a CD just like I did (or tried) with the others I downloaded. Some of them seem to be a hopeless cause. Anything Unbuntu style seems to give me an SMBus no enabled error. Any of your guys know if that's a setting in the BIOS or something?
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I managed to get puppy linux to boot from the hardrive (in fact I'm posting from that computer).
Meaning you have a working bootloader there.
You could just try that one with a configuration for TC, basically you have to pass the path of the initrd and the kernel to your bootloader (you could just copy the 2 files from mounted TC CD or .iso to HDD).