Tiny Core Linux

General TC => General TC Talk => Topic started by: roberts on March 31, 2011, 07:28:40 PM

Title: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on March 31, 2011, 07:28:40 PM
Post here for discussion regarding the forum move.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: gerald_clark on March 31, 2011, 07:56:38 PM
That was fast.
Fixing up my wiki artices now (minor <code></code> issues ).
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 31, 2011, 08:30:58 PM
Hi roberts
There used to be a  [Recent Topics]  link to a page that would update as people posted. Will that
be implemented again?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: andrewb on March 31, 2011, 09:49:36 PM
Does this mean the search function of the forums will be reinstated?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on March 31, 2011, 09:53:22 PM
Does this mean the search function of the forums will be reinstated?
Thanks for reminding me. I just updated it. Search should be available for regular users.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on March 31, 2011, 10:02:22 PM
Hi roberts
There used to be a  [Recent Topics]  link to a page that would update as people posted. Will that
be implemented again?

We are now running without some of the modifications that we had before.
The simple reason is that such modifications were allowing some to "hit" us.
Search for guest users, and [Recent Topics], were causing many many SQL
queriesl causing slow response which resulted in notifications that our site was using
way to much resources.

In order to avoid this I would suggest to try a different theme that is available in this forum software.

Select Profile->Look and Layout Preferences -> Select SMF Default theme.

I believe it is that one that shows the following links:

Show unread posts since last visit.
Show new replies to your posts.





Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: Rich on March 31, 2011, 11:35:02 PM
Hi roberts
Not as convenient but it works, thank you. A couple of minor observations, I don't see a link back to the
Tinycore website (or I missed it). I guess you moved the forum to an earlier timezone, the time is off by an hour.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 01, 2011, 02:54:08 AM

We are now running without some of the modifications that we had before.
The simple reason is that such modifications were allowing some to "hit" us.
Search for guest users, and [Recent Topics], were causing many many SQL
queriesl causing slow response which resulted in notifications that our site was using
way to much resources.



I'm running my forum with TinyPortal extension to provide additional functionality. Integrated to SMF nicely, no any problems in last 3-4 years, no claims from hosting company. Just doing its job:

http://www.tinyportal.co.uk/

You may have a look on my forum:

http://forum.hasix.org
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: jur on April 01, 2011, 04:50:39 AM
Your forum has a problem - all the words are garbled. Even some letters too.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 01, 2011, 07:22:42 AM
Looks perfect here in 3 different browsers.
My guess would be either your browser might not automatically recognize the correct encoding, or your system is just lacking fonts required for this page.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: Kingdomcome on April 01, 2011, 08:45:01 AM
Ive been using the SMF Default theme for some time and liked having my PM info in the top box, since the move I dont see it anymore.  Was this an intended change or just a casualty of the move?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 01, 2011, 08:54:20 AM
I guess you moved the forum to an earlier timezone, the time is off by an hour.

For many the time is off by an hour for the third time within a few weeks (TZ changes)   ;)

However, just hitting 'autodetect' in profile settings will rectify.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 01, 2011, 11:48:04 AM
Your forum has a problem - all the words are garbled. Even some letters too.

My forum do not have a problem. It is an issue at your side.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: gutmensch on April 01, 2011, 12:30:18 PM
I guess you moved the forum to an earlier timezone, the time is off by an hour.

For many the time is off by an hour for the third time within a few weeks (TZ changes)   ;)

However, just hitting 'autodetect' in profile settings will rectify.

I wish we could all live united in UTC.... ;-) Server is now in MDT (UTC-6), before move it was in PDT (UTC-7). If I'm getting this straight (and I do really have problems with time confusion), we could set a global "offtime" in the forum of -1 to revert the change, which was caused by the moving?! Another way would be setting the forum time always to UTC and let the users define the difference between it...
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 01, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
I guess you moved the forum to an earlier timezone, the time is off by an hour.

For many the time is off by an hour for the third time within a few weeks (TZ changes)   ;)

However, just hitting 'autodetect' in profile settings will rectify.

I wish we could all live united in UTC.... ;-)

Does it help to mention that the inhabitants of Greenwich do not live in Greenwich Mean Time as of current?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 01, 2011, 12:48:34 PM
Just a side note. GMT was repleced with UTC a while ago...
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: curaga on April 01, 2011, 02:04:15 PM
SMF only does proper timezones in v2 IIRC. In v1 I've always had to edit the time offset when DST changes here, though that does depend on where the server is too.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 01, 2011, 02:20:24 PM
SMF only does proper timezones in v2 IIRC. In v1 I've always had to edit the time offset when DST changes here, though that does depend on where the server is too.

I'm changing manually the time offset in SMF administration setup when DST is changing.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 01, 2011, 03:51:37 PM
Both Search and Provides now working on new site for both ab and appsbrowser.
Here is a simple fix to add to your /opt/bootlocal.sh


$ cat /opt/bootlocal.sh
#!/bin/sh
# put other system startup commands here
sed -i 's/.com/.net/' /usr/bin/search.sh
sed -i 's/.com/.net/' /usr/bin/provides.sh

As /opt/bootlocal.sh is part of your backup, A reboot and you should be good.
The new site will be obviously referenced in the above scripts in the next cut of microcore and tinycore.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 01, 2011, 04:45:35 PM
Could the same be arranged for 2.x repo please?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: jur on April 01, 2011, 05:38:31 PM
Your forum has a problem - all the words are garbled. Even some letters too.

My forum do not have a problem. It is an issue at your side.
April 1! ;-)
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 01, 2011, 07:14:12 PM
Could the same be arranged for 2.x repo please?
OK. Should be working for 2.x. Use same patch in /opt/bootlocal.sh as was shown above.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 02, 2011, 03:04:17 AM
Thanks, works fine now   :)
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: SamK on April 03, 2011, 06:21:01 AM
On opening the page
http://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/
then clicking on the Downloads link at the head of the page gives:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/

If one of the other links at the head of the page is first clicked e.g. Intro
then clicking on the Downloads link gives:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/tinycorelinux/downloads.html

Behaviour is consistently observed with both Opera and Links browsers.
   
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: curaga on April 03, 2011, 06:56:38 AM
@SamK: Thanks, should be fixed.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: SamK on April 03, 2011, 09:56:11 AM
@SamK: Thanks, should be fixed.
Yes, it working OK now.
 
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 04, 2011, 07:04:54 PM
Special thanks to gutmensch for our new Buttons on the Forum page using default theme.
Now we have easy access to Tiny Core webpages (Welcome), (FAQ), (Downloads), and (Wiki).
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: andrewb on April 04, 2011, 07:23:09 PM
Would a "show unread posts since last vist" link/button be possible on the default theme? The Babylon theme has this link right at the top of the page. Really useful for keeping up on current discussions.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 04, 2011, 07:47:45 PM
There is "View the most recent posts on the forum" listed under Forum Stats in the default theme.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: jur on April 05, 2011, 01:50:19 AM
Previously, the CORE logo took you to the tcl home page. The logo is now inactive.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: gutmensch on April 05, 2011, 04:43:01 AM
fixed logo link, thanks!
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: andrewb on April 05, 2011, 08:06:09 PM
There is "View the most recent posts on the forum" listed under Forum Stats in the default theme.
This doesn't have quite the same functionality. "View most recent posts" appears to include all recent posts. The "show unread posts since last visit" link in the babylon theme shows only the posts that have been updated since a registered user last viewed the forum.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 06, 2011, 08:00:58 AM
Thanks to gutmensch, "Show unread posts since last visit." and "Show new replies to your posts." are now on the forum default theme. We should now only require this one theme.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 06, 2011, 08:09:40 AM
We should now only require this one theme.

Babylon theme provides these links from stock.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 06, 2011, 08:17:25 AM
On Babylon where is our logo? Where are the link buttons.
Using the new default provides the best experience.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: bmarkus on April 06, 2011, 10:13:53 AM
On Babylon where is our logo? Where are the link buttons.
Using the new default provides the best experience.

OK, Babylon theme is not customized but "Show unread posts since last visit." and "Show new replies to your posts" are there. To be honest. Lack of TC links is a low price for a theme which is readable. I hate the default them. Anyhow, just a personal preference :)
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: gutmensch on April 06, 2011, 12:15:55 PM
I tried the babylon theme and I beg to disagree concerning readability.... IMHO there are several design problems at the babylon theme:

1. The buttons and box headlines at the babylon theme have a very small white font with very low contrast to their background.
2. It also prefers font size 1 in lots of places, which is surely not a problem by itself but I find that misplaced in a forum software, where the main task is reading and writing comfortably.
3. Heavy underlining almost everywhere because of link style sheets, which is absolutely unnecessary.

IMHO these things make the babylon theme a worse choice, even though it looks more futuristic at first sight.
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: tinypoodle on April 06, 2011, 12:42:32 PM
Heh, and I was just about to post that I prefer the babylon theme because it looks more conservative...
I only lately looked into themes when bmarkus had posted a screenie related to "lost" search function, and since then I am much more happy with babylon in comparison with default which I had used all the time before; particularly babylon seems to me to be much more eye friendly.

gutmensch, I do not understand what exactly you refer to by 'font size 1'

Perhaps same theme could also look different with different browsers (or generally different setups)?

Summary: de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum   ;)
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: beerstein on April 10, 2011, 02:16:04 PM
HI: I liked the "recent posts" bar/button on the old main site.
It was easy to see all new posts. Can this be done again?
Title: Re: Move Related Forum Discussion
Post by: roberts on April 10, 2011, 02:29:39 PM
See several posts above: http://forum.tinycorelinux.net/index.php?topic=9115.msg49770#msg49770