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Title: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on January 08, 2011, 04:59:13 AM
The videos on the screenshot page have been updated for 3.4.1. Also added two new videos, showing fluff and mnttool, covering the items in the default wbar.
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 08, 2011, 07:02:10 AM
Having some difficulty in viewing the videos.  Screen Shots work OK, but cannot get video to display in Opera (tried Mnttool and Pendrive).  Also tried downloading and running locally via mplayer but failed with the following message:

aoss mplayer ./mnttool.ogv
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MPlayer SVN-r30660-snapshot (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team

Playing ./mnttool.ogv.
Ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type
Seek failed
libavformat file format detected.
[theora @ 0x9f7e870]invalid base matrix index
    Last message repeated 77 times
[ogg @ 0x9f6d630]max_analyze_duration reached
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO:  [theo]  800x608  0bpp  15.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
[VO_XV] Sorry, Xv not supported by this X11 version/driver
[VO_XV] ******** Try with  -vo x11  or  -vo sdl  *********
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[theora @ 0x88334e0]invalid base matrix index
Could not open codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Requested video codec family [theora] (vfm=theora) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x6F656874.
==========================================================================


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Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on January 08, 2011, 07:19:39 AM
Did they display in Opera for you before the update?

As for mplayer, they play fine in mplayer-nodeps for me (with the option -noslices, since there's a known bug in that version of mplayer).
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: jls on January 08, 2011, 07:54:20 AM
I can see the video withe Mplayer-nodeps even without the -noslices parameter
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 08, 2011, 07:56:20 AM
Did they display in Opera for you before the update?

As for mplayer, they play fine in mplayer-nodeps for me (with the option -noslices, since there's a known bug in that version of mplayer).
Also using mplayer-nodeps here.

aoss mplayer -noslices ./mnttool.ogv
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Ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type
Seek failed
libavformat file format detected.
[theora @ 0x9533870]invalid base matrix index
    Last message repeated 77 times
[ogg @ 0x9522630]max_analyze_duration reached
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO:  [theo]  800x608  0bpp  15.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
[VO_XV] Sorry, Xv not supported by this X11 version/driver
[VO_XV] ******** Try with  -vo x11  or  -vo sdl  *********
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[theora @ 0x88334e0]invalid base matrix index
Could not open codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Requested video codec family [theora] (vfm=theora) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x6F656874.
==========================================================================


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Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: tinypoodle on January 08, 2011, 07:57:36 AM
Same here, works without '-noslices'

SamK,

Does anything change if you try following:

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mplayer -vc fftheora mnttool.ogv
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 08, 2011, 08:06:53 AM
Does anything change if you try following:

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mplayer -vc fftheora mnttool.ogv

mplayer -vc fftheora ./mnttool.ogv
Code: [Select]
MPlayer SVN-r30660-snapshot (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team

Playing ./mnttool.ogv.
Ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type
Seek failed
libavformat file format detected.
[theora @ 0x9e188a0]invalid base matrix index
    Last message repeated 77 times
[ogg @ 0x9e07670]max_analyze_duration reached
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO:  [theo]  800x608  0bpp  15.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "XVideo" missing on display ":0.0".
[VO_XV] Sorry, Xv not supported by this X11 version/driver
[VO_XV] ******** Try with  -vo x11  or  -vo sdl  *********
==========================================================================
Forced video codec: fftheora
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[theora @ 0x88334e0]invalid base matrix index
Could not open codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x6F656874.
==========================================================================


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Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: jls on January 08, 2011, 08:19:33 AM
have u tried
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mplayer -vo x11
?
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 08, 2011, 08:31:09 AM
have u tried
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mplayer -vo x11
?

aoss mplayer -vo x11 pendrive-install.ogv
Code: [Select]
MPlayer SVN-r30660-snapshot (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team

Playing pendrive-install.ogv.
Ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type
Seek failed
libavformat file format detected.
[theora @ 0x9d5e8d0]huffman tree overflow
    Last message repeated 77 times
[ogg @ 0x9d4d6a0]max_analyze_duration reached
[lavf] Video stream found, -vid 0
VIDEO:  [theo]  800x608  0bpp  15.000 fps    0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-VidModeExtension" missing on display ":0.0".
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
[theora @ 0x88334e0]huffman tree overflow
Could not open codec.
VDecoder init failed :(
Requested video codec family [theora] (vfm=theora) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Cannot find codec matching selected -vo and video format 0x6F656874.
==========================================================================


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Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 09, 2011, 02:40:38 AM
No updates pending no missing dependencies.

MPlayer-nodeps.tcz removed and re-installed.

To reduce the chances of data corruption being the culprit, the videos have been deleted and downloaded again.

Result: No changes in previously reported behaviour.



VLC installed - fails to display video:
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VLC media player 1.1.5 The Luggage (revision exported)
[0x8f7e0d4] main libvlc error: option http-user-agent does not exist
[0x8f7e0d4] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
Blocked: call to setlocale(6, "")
Blocked: call to sigaction(17, 0xb3bf70e4, 0xb3bf7058)
Xlib:  extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "SYNC" missing on display ":0.0".
Illegal instruction




Switch Distros:

Stock (no updates) Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop - displays video successfully using Totem.
  
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: tinypoodle on January 09, 2011, 04:14:39 AM
That seems tricky in diagnosis, all I could think of would trying to exclude possible reasons one by one...  :-\

Regarding reinstalling MPlayer-nodeps.tcz:

1. Compare md5sum of your local extension with the one on repo
2. Boot with 'norestore' (and preferably with 'base') as there might be prior config files in /home (or elsewhere in backed up files). 

I would try to play some other (arbitrarily) .ogv (theora) files and see what happens.

You could use 'mplayer -v' to possibly get some more precise output, but that can give so much output that the task may start like searching for a needle in a haystack.

Not sure if the 'illegal instruction' in vlc could be related with your error output on mplayer, there is a chance that might be coincidental

By my estimation, to debug vlc would probably be more effort than to debug MPlayer-nodeps, due to the difference in complexity and dependencies (not saying you didn't do well to try another player in order to compare).
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 09, 2011, 05:34:55 AM
This matter is not a priority for me but may have some significance for TC as a distro.  The videos might be expected to be used as a shop window providing information to a wider user/potential user base.  If the issue is intermittently experienced, especially by those considering adopting TC, it might not be reported back, but taken as a reason to move on, upon the basis of 'does not work for me'.

With a reasonable degree of confidence, the conclusions reached so far:
01. MPlayer-nodeps not corrupt (md5sum match)
02. Downloaded videos not corrupt (play on Ubuntu 10.04)
03. Missing dependencies not culpable (none identified in AppBrowser)
04. Pending updates not culpable (none identified in AppBrowser)
05. Existing config not culpable (booting base norestore exhibits unchanged behaviour)
06. Inability of hardware to deal with file type not culpable (play on Ubuntu 10.04)

From this it may be reasonable to look towards TC+extensions or the video creation as a next stage of investigation.  It works OK for some users.  Two video players fail (MPlayer and VLC).
  
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 10, 2011, 05:53:46 AM
Investigating TC+extensions as mentioned in previous post...

Booted base, norestore
Installed Xorg-7.5.tcz, MPlayer-nodeps.tcz
mplayer mnttool.ogv
Result: video displays

For me this is unsatisfactory as I do not use Xorg.


Booted my standard boot set-up
Installed Xvesa.tcz,
mplayer mnttool.ogv
Result: video displays

For me this is better than using Xorg, however the most preferable would be Xvesa as provided by TC base.  If this is achievable, it might provide the best compatibility and fewest inconsistencies for new users.
    
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on January 10, 2011, 11:29:03 AM
Works here on base norestore TC 3.4.1 plus Mplayer-nodeps. I guess there's something in your setup making issues.

http://i53.tinypic.com/n4cujb.png
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: SamK on January 11, 2011, 10:19:53 AM
Works here on base norestore TC 3.4.1 plus Mplayer-nodeps.
OK, as mentioned earlier in the topic it also works for some other users.  I'm not intending to investigate any further (but may eventually get around to trying again as it was not tested here using TC3.4.1).
   
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: tinypoodle on January 11, 2011, 07:43:03 PM
Works here on base norestore TC 3.4.1 plus Mplayer-nodeps.
OK, as mentioned earlier in the topic it also works for some other users.  I'm not intending to investigate any further (but may eventually get around to trying again as it was not tested here using TC3.4.1).
   

One small detail I did observe is this line of output in mplayer:
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[VD_FFMPEG] DRI failure.  0.0% 0 0No idea if it is of any relevance or what it's implication could be, just providing it as a potential clue.
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: tinypoodle on January 11, 2011, 07:48:33 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/n4cujb.png

Shouldn't this screenie be posted on the screen shot page as "Playing a video from the TC screen shot page"??
/me ducks   :P

Edit: Hahaha/me had not the slightest idea that this forum had an IRC like ACTION implementation   ;D
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on June 10, 2011, 01:58:10 AM
An installer video posted; previous usbinstall video pulled.
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on January 06, 2013, 06:13:00 AM
The Appsaudit video has been replaced with a video showing Apps, both the normal use and the managing side.

This one has subtitles ;)
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: aus9 on January 06, 2013, 07:02:07 AM
curaga

great video

was there supposed to be sound?

2) If you really like to make extra work, can you make the next video with out-of-date extensions to show how to use APPS to update?
bad form I know, deliberately having an old tcz

3) Was that recordmydesktop?

cheers
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: curaga on January 06, 2013, 07:40:44 AM
No sound on any of the videos currently, on purpose.

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2) If you really like to make extra work, can you make the next video with out-of-date extensions to show how to use APPS to update?
bad form I know, deliberately having an old tcz

I can't say I like that :P

It should be
Maintenance->check for updates # a list of old extensions is shown
# select ones to update (if you want all, shift-click selects a range, ctrl-click picks many)
# click Process updates

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3) Was that recordmydesktop?

No, I use a two-stage setup with vncrec. This avoids the latency spikes and huge memory needs of the usual screen recorders (because they encode at the same time as capture - vncrec captures first, and then you can take all the time you want to encode later).
Title: Re: Videos updated
Post by: aus9 on January 06, 2013, 07:08:26 PM
aah good to know in case I ever have time to sink